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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 17, 2021 19:24:34 GMT -8
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 17, 2021 19:31:19 GMT -8
Some sources indicated the AAC might pay the Mountain West exit fees to kneecap its biggest competitor as the best conference not in the Power 5.
The AAC would pay the exit fees for CSU and AFA? This seems bizarre. SDSU and BSU are the conferences Bell Cows, who in their right mind takes CSU and AFA? Toog Bad we can't kick out members. I would rather see an 8 or 9 team conference.
But other than that, stay pat at 10. Even if BSU and State leave for the B12 there would still be a 8 team conference and you could easily add UTEP and NMSU to get to 10.
JMO.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 17, 2021 19:37:09 GMT -8
Can they take Wyoming with them?
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Post by chris92065 on Sept 17, 2021 19:46:23 GMT -8
thompson is a douche bag. i hope the schools leave.
if i am state i go with them.
thompson has never given a sheet about san diego state.
i am also tired of being boises bitch by letting them have their perferred status.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 17, 2021 20:57:33 GMT -8
The reason SDSU and Boise aren't interested is because they know the Big 12 isn't done expanding and that both schools are the short list. Why jump to a dying conference when you can wait it out for a few years and possibly get a Big 12 invite?
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Post by jdaztec on Sept 17, 2021 21:20:56 GMT -8
I know we have very little chance of getting into The PAC12 but...I do believe they will at least take a hard look if we were to get a Big12 invite. The three biggest factors we hear are 1) Academics and 2) TV Market.3) Recruiting
In regards to the first we are making considerable progress and we already on at least a par with several existing Pac12 institutions.
In regards to TV market I read the recent Mark Ziegler article where he stated The PAC12 owns the San Diego tv market when going head to head with Aztec Games. I think he is terrific as a writer but he needs to check his facts this simply is not true. I have friend who runs one of the local TV stations and he told me thats not the case. Also If we were to go into the Big12 our viewership would likely sky rocket.
In terms of recruiting I get it. The PAC 12 being a power 5 conference is going to win many recruiting battles in San Diego however if we get into The Big 12 that is likely to change. The question then is do you want The San Diego talent to stay in The PAC12 or end up in The Big12 ?
For the above reasons I don't think we should totally dismiss the notion of a future PAC12 invite.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 17, 2021 21:23:42 GMT -8
They reportedly are entertaining offers, not looking to leave. Big difference. Love everything Thompson had to say as well as his take on Aresco: “I think it’s a little bit of both,” Thompson said. “Maybe it’s a personality flaw, people saying you’ve got to be like (Aresco). But who listens to AAC rhetoric? Who’s bought into the Power 6? I don’t think their full membership even has. Cincinnati, Houston and Central Florida haven’t. … We deal in hard facts, black and white, and trying to improve our programs. You can call yourself anything, you can claim anything."
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 18, 2021 3:29:34 GMT -8
"You can call yourself anything, you can claim anything."
Not sure who Hair is referencing, it certainly fits his "Achievements" to date.
He is worse than Benson (WAC)-that is saying something.
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Post by ron on Sept 18, 2021 4:14:30 GMT -8
The AAC. How do any of the MWC schools improve themselves with that move? You just increase your travel costs. The payout is no better and the teams aren't either. What am I missing?
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Post by sectionq on Sept 18, 2021 4:26:18 GMT -8
"You can call yourself anything, you can claim anything." Not sure who Hair is referencing, it certainly fits his "Achievements" to date. He is worse than Benson (WAC)-that is saying something. He’s referencing Aresco’s “P6” claims, without naming him.
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Post by chris92065 on Sept 18, 2021 5:49:50 GMT -8
"You can call yourself anything, you can claim anything." Not sure who Hair is referencing, it certainly fits his "Achievements" to date. He is worse than Benson (WAC)-that is saying something. That is his claim to fame doing nothing and he gets paid alot of money to do just that. Colorado and air force are as good as gone. They get a bump in revenue and dknt have to be boises bitch anymore.
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 18, 2021 6:22:23 GMT -8
"You can call yourself anything, you can claim anything." Not sure who Hair is referencing, it certainly fits his "Achievements" to date. He is worse than Benson (WAC)-that is saying something. He’s referencing Aresco’s “P6” claims, without naming him. I know- being sarcastic.
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Post by sdsudevil on Sept 18, 2021 7:14:05 GMT -8
Interesting that the AAC wants two teams that haven't won a conference title in football or MBB in forever. This is the junior varsity version of the Big Ten taking Maryland and Rutgers.
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Post by aztecfred on Sept 18, 2021 7:40:30 GMT -8
I think the AAC looking AF n Col St is smart move on their part. West but, not too far west. Both in Denver area for travel and with AF maybe add Army? Doubt SDSU n Boise gonna step sideways if Big(8,12,14,16) possibilities.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 18, 2021 8:47:24 GMT -8
Interesting that the AAC wants two teams that haven't won a conference title in football or MBB in forever. This is the junior varsity version of the Big Ten taking Maryland and Rutgers. Strange things are afoot at Cirlce K. Maybe they know something about SDSU, BSU and maybe UNLV that isn't public yet.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 18, 2021 8:50:08 GMT -8
"You can call yourself anything, you can claim anything." Not sure who Hair is referencing, it certainly fits his "Achievements" to date. He is worse than Benson (WAC)-that is saying something. This is why I believe the MWC is a government front for something. 😆 How is a guy this incompetent at this job for so long?
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Post by AzTex on Sept 18, 2021 10:06:05 GMT -8
I know we have very little chance of getting into The PAC12 but.. .I do believe they will at least take a hard look if we were to get a Big12 invite. The three biggest factors we hear are 1) Academics and 2) TV Market.3) Recruiting In regards to the first we are making considerable progress and we already on at least a par with several existing Pac12 institutions. In regards to TV market I read the recent Mark Ziegler article where he stated The PAC12 owns the San Diego tv market when going head to head with Aztec Games. I think he is terrific as a writer but he needs to check his facts this simply is not true. I have friend who runs one of the local TV stations and he told me thats not the case. Also If we were to go into the Big12 our viewership would likely sky rocket. In terms of recruiting I get it. The PAC 12 being a power 5 conference is going to win many recruiting battles in San Diego however if we get into The Big 12 that is likely to change. The question then is do you want The San Diego talent to stay in The PAC12 or end up in The Big12 ? For the above reasons I don't think we should totally dismiss the notion of a future PAC12 invite. I believe that is our ONLY way to get a Pac12 invite. Unless, of course, USC, UCLA and maybe others get poached by the B1G.
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Post by junior on Sept 18, 2021 10:39:03 GMT -8
The problem with San Diego is that it's always going to be bounded in on all 4 sides. Zero potential for growth: ocean, desert, LA, Mx.
(And Mexico won't pay for it unless it's real Futbol)
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Post by standiego on Sept 18, 2021 11:16:49 GMT -8
Any time any one says they are not taking a school because of its Educational status - they are using that as an excuse plain and simple
The TV Networks are a Big Money Making Business so their basic interest is TV Viewership - They need to Sell ad space during the games to get the money to pay the Conferences - so that is their Main Concern - MONEY that they need to collect from the Sponsors . If you own a business what are you looking at Viewership to see if you are willing to shell out the money Not the Education levels . Do not think Business is looking to put their add money in the IVY league . Do not try to say when the PAC expanded to Colorado and Utah it was because of its educational value of the schools . Same thing for when the BIG added Rutgers and Nebraska . Why did the SEC add the Longhorns and Sooners - TV watchers was the Primary Reason
Recruiting - What makes a school a better team------ the PLAYERS it can RECRUIT and the Money it can pay coaches .
A prime example of Why the PAC does NOT want to add / elevate SDSU to its conference happened this summer . USC was able to hire away an Aztec Assistant Coach - why and how they could pay him a lot more Money ( from their TV deal ) and the recruit he had been trying to recruit to SDSU went with him to USC . This happens a great amount of time - Mostly the high level recruits want to go to a P5 School not a G5 . So any school in the PAC - even the lower rated schools have over SDSU . if you are A or for that matter a majority of the PAC schools are you going to vote to elevate SDSU to the same level you are at - A Resounding NO WAY . so do not look for an Invite from the PAC to SDSU -
Houston is the most Valuable school not currently in a P5 conference - So they received the Invite from the Big 12 but would prefer to get an Invite from the PAC . Houston also opens up the state of Texas for recruiting - so IF the PAC were to expand it would be an invitation to Texas and maybe another school from Texas
As of now - since the penalty to leave the MW is not that much - could see AAC looking to add MW schools or others
Additional Note the PAC has told everyone that they have much better Viewership in San Diego and every other county in CA then say SDSU , San Jose , Fresno , CSU ... So make sure you watch SDSU football or tape the games - to prove them wrong
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 18, 2021 12:36:48 GMT -8
"You can call yourself anything, you can claim anything." Not sure who Hair is referencing, it certainly fits his "Achievements" to date. He is worse than Benson (WAC)-that is saying something. Aresco is a blowhard who talks far more than he acts. Thompson is 100% correct and a much better commissioner than Aresco.
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