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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Aug 4, 2021 16:54:32 GMT -8
Well, it sure ain't going to be this year. Today's embarrassing display proves that. Two outs in the 9th and "the man" can't shut them down.
How many years have we experienced runs being scored early and then the boys just phone it in. What does Melancon need? a 10 run lead to close it out?
I'm sorry but these guys will not even reach the WC game, let alone win it. We all thought they actually had a chance to win the division. Haha fat chance now. They don't even look like they want to win this thing. The Giants and Doyyers do. We look like we want to hit the golf course come October.
I know you guys love Jayce Tingler. I don't. You can't go on saying you need to blow off today and move on every day. You can do that in May, not August. You have to get you guys playing like they actually want to win this thing. You aren't doing it. Wish I could collect your salary for doing nothing.
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Post by junior on Aug 4, 2021 18:15:32 GMT -8
…and to add more insult to today's injury, the Dodgers just hired Cole Hamels for 200K per start to 'fill in'. The Padres were apparently at his little demo recently, but whether or not they made an offer, the Dodgers signed him. We can argue his abilities at this point in his career, but if he can just give them 4-5 innings of decent innings per start until they can get their staff back together again, that'll clinch it. Padres starters are crap right now. Horrible July. They couldn't see their way to pulling in an experienced arm for a few weeks?
The Padres really can't compete in this division as long as there's no real cap on salaries. The Dodgers will always buy their way into the post season, and they'll always have money left over.
Padres just raised season tix prices 20% for next year, and it won't make a dent in their expenses.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 4, 2021 18:28:38 GMT -8
Just get into the playoffs….and then get hot.
That’s all.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 4, 2021 18:38:43 GMT -8
Just get into the playoffs….and then get hot. That’s all. I hear ya. A lot of it is timing. Being hot at the right time.
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Post by junior on Aug 4, 2021 19:01:34 GMT -8
Dodgers are planning to win the WS. Padres just hoping to sneak into a WC game.
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Post by azson on Aug 5, 2021 8:31:31 GMT -8
Dodgers are planning to win the WS. Padres just hoping to sneak into a WC game. As a reminder, the Nats snuck into the WC game in '19 and won the whole damn thing.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 5, 2021 10:04:19 GMT -8
…and to add more insult to today's injury, the Dodgers just hired Cole Hamels for 200K per start to 'fill in'. The Padres were apparently at his little demo recently, but whether or not they made an offer, the Dodgers signed him. We can argue his abilities at this point in his career, but if he can just give them 4-5 innings of decent innings per start until they can get their staff back together again, that'll clinch it. Padres starters are crap right now. Horrible July. They couldn't see their way to pulling in an experienced arm for a few weeks? The Padres really can't compete in this division as long as there's no real cap on salaries. The Dodgers will always buy their way into the post season, and they'll always have money left over. Padres just raised season tix prices 20% for next year, and it won't make a dent in their expenses. Do you know Hamels will actually provide quality? The guy hasn't done crap for a while. The Dodgers can throw away $200k even if Hamels makes 1 start & gets tossed; that's not a luxury the Padres can afford. I trust their evaluation process, and I definitely would rather see the Padres use guys like Knehr or Diaz & get the same result at Hamels. BTW, odd time to say our starters are crap "right now" when we're coming off back to back good starts. I'd say our starters have been "average" of late, and I'm not sure signing a Hamels would change that.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 5, 2021 10:08:01 GMT -8
Dodgers are planning to win the WS. Padres just hoping to sneak into a WC game. As a reminder, the Nats snuck into the WC game in '19 and won the whole damn thing. They didn't exactly sneak in, but yes, they qualified as a WC team. A total of 7 WC teams have gone on to win the World Series.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 5, 2021 10:20:49 GMT -8
I'm always amazed how quickly people are to jump off the bandwagon. Tough loss, but I think we've been spoiled. We've won the majority of our close games, but it's not like other teams haven't experienced much of the same. The Dodgers just experienced back to back nights which were much worse not too long ago.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 5, 2021 12:32:07 GMT -8
Either players are going to step up or they aren't. Pads are fine. We've been hit with a bunch of injuries all year long. But hey, Kim is starting to improve, and we got Frazier just before Tatis got hurt. Our farm system and pitching depth has stepped up in a huge way this year. A lot of ballclubs would have tanked if they had as many injuries as we've had. Look at the Braves for example. We are well above .500, in very good position to win the WC, playing in a division with the best team in baseball and arguable the second best team in baseball. Put us in the NL East and we are destroying the division with an huge lead if we got to play those teams every night. Put us in the NL Central and we would be right there with the Brewers.
Have some perspective.
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Post by junior on Aug 5, 2021 12:51:01 GMT -8
Dodgers are planning to win the WS. Padres just hoping to sneak into a WC game. As a reminder, the Nats snuck into the WC game in '19 and won the whole damn thing. And just a week ago, they held a fire sale…
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Post by azson on Aug 5, 2021 15:32:56 GMT -8
As a reminder, the Nats snuck into the WC game in '19 and won the whole damn thing. And just a week ago, they held a fire sale… True, but unlike them we're set for many years to come.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2021 15:45:38 GMT -8
Dodgers are planning to win the WS. Padres just hoping to sneak into a WC game. Signing Cole Hamels is planning to win the World Series? That's quite an amazing statement.
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Post by junior on Aug 5, 2021 16:58:08 GMT -8
Interesting conflation of what was psotted. But from some psotters, it's to be expected… LMAO
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2021 17:21:54 GMT -8
Dodgers are planning to win the WS. Padres just hoping to sneak into a WC game. Signing Cole Hamels is planning to win the World Series? That's quite an amazing statement. Getting Sherzer and Turner certainly help.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2021 20:33:57 GMT -8
Signing Cole Hamels is planning to win the World Series? That's quite an amazing statement. Getting Sherzer and Turner certainly help. Scherzer and Turner have nothing to do with Hamels in any shape or form. The reason LA got Turner (who still hasn't even played a game yet) and Scherzer has already been hammered home. Neither player makes the Dodgers markedly better from a win perspective because their weaknesses are still there. Turner's going to take away at-bats from some combination of Muncy/Taylor/Turner/Stager, unless the Dodgers outright bench Cody Bellinger. The bullpen and rotation still have glaring holes and they still have an idiot running the ship.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 6, 2021 0:30:50 GMT -8
Getting Sherzer and Turner certainly help. Scherzer and Turner have nothing to do with Hamels in any shape or form. The reason LA got Turner (who still hasn't even played a game yet) and Scherzer has already been hammered home. Neither player makes the Dodgers markedly better from a win perspective because their weaknesses are still there. Turner's going to take away at-bats from some combination of Muncy/Taylor/Turner/Stager, unless the Dodgers outright bench Cody Bellinger. The bullpen and rotation still have glaring holes and they still have an idiot running the ship. Trea Turner is a huge upgrade over Cory Seager or Cody Bellinger, at least for how those two have been playing this season vs. Turner. Having all three of them gives them the freedom to play lefty vs. righty matchups, play the hot hand, give guys more rest days, have better depth in case of injury, have better pinch hit at bats in the NL and a better DH in the AL (relevant for their World Series hopes). It's a pretty big deal. I don't understand why you are downplaying the value of getting an all-star with a 146 OPS+ this season. And how does Scherzer not help to address their rotation issues?
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2021 6:00:34 GMT -8
Getting Sherzer and Turner certainly help. Scherzer and Turner have nothing to do with Hamels in any shape or form. The reason LA got Turner (who still hasn't even played a game yet) and Scherzer has already been hammered home. Neither player makes the Dodgers markedly better from a win perspective because their weaknesses are still there. Turner's going to take away at-bats from some combination of Muncy/Taylor/Turner/Stager, unless the Dodgers outright bench Cody Bellinger. The bullpen and rotation still have glaring holes and they still have an idiot running the ship. Did you just actually try to spin this to say that this trade doesn't help them win ball games this year? Wow. Also, if it isn't going to help them win games much, and there's down sides to it, then why were you so upset, saying that the Nationals screwed us?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 7:36:03 GMT -8
…and to add more insult to today's injury, the Dodgers just hired Cole Hamels for 200K per start to 'fill in'. The Padres were apparently at his little demo recently, but whether or not they made an offer, the Dodgers signed him. We can argue his abilities at this point in his career, but if he can just give them 4-5 innings of decent innings per start until they can get their staff back together again, that'll clinch it. Padres starters are crap right now. Horrible July. They couldn't see their way to pulling in an experienced arm for a few weeks? The Padres really can't compete in this division as long as there's no real cap on salaries. The Dodgers will always buy their way into the post season, and they'll always have money left over. Padres just raised season tix prices 20% for next year, and it won't make a dent in their expenses. Do you know Hamels will actually provide quality? The guy hasn't done crap for a while. The Dodgers can throw away $200k even if Hamels makes 1 start & gets tossed; that's not a luxury the Padres can afford. I trust their evaluation process, and I definitely would rather see the Padres use guys like Knehr or Diaz & get the same result at Hamels. BTW, odd time to say our starters are crap "right now" when we're coming off back to back good starts. I'd say our starters have been "average" of late, and I'm not sure signing a Hamels would change that. I guess it depends on your definition of "as of late", as the starting pitching for July was league worst.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 7:38:13 GMT -8
Getting Sherzer and Turner certainly help. Scherzer and Turner have nothing to do with Hamels in any shape or form. The reason LA got Turner (who still hasn't even played a game yet) and Scherzer has already been hammered home. Neither player makes the Dodgers markedly better from a win perspective because their weaknesses are still there. Turner's going to take away at-bats from some combination of Muncy/Taylor/Turner/Stager, unless the Dodgers outright bench Cody Bellinger. The bullpen and rotation still have glaring holes and they still have an idiot running the ship. Uh yeah, they definitely make the Dodgers a more considerable threat.
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