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Post by sdcoug on Jun 7, 2021 12:27:00 GMT -8
Sick of the other thread with his name, but think it's worth nothing his progression this season so started a fresh one.
As of April 19th (18 games), he was sitting at .135 BA, .292 OBP, .154 SLG for a .446 OPS.
Since April 20th....
April 20+ = .333 / .375 / .333 / .708
May = .253 / .387 / .414 / .801
June = .250 / .438 / .583 / 1.021
Total since 4/20: .263 / .391 / .421 / .812
Basically over the past 7 weeks or so he's been solid.
Over the past 30 days, his OBP of .413 is 2nd among ALL (eligible) Left Fielders, .001 point behind Dominic Smith of the Mets. His OPS is 5th at .895 (Winker, Meadows, Canha, Bryant). Even his overall average (.265) is top 10, he's tied for 9th in homers, and 12th in RBI.
You can like him or hate him, but he's a professional hitter who has been hitting the ball hard all season & they're starting to fall in the gaps now. Been fun to watch IMO.
Really need Grisham back, but IMO a Pham, Grisham, Tatis, Machado, Hosmer, Myers, Cronenworth top 7 isn't too bad, and Nola helps when he returns as well. Now if only we can have more than 3 guys hitting well at a time!!
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2021 13:02:30 GMT -8
Sick of the other thread with his name, but think it's worth nothing his progression this season so started a fresh one. As of April 19th (18 games), he was sitting at .135 BA, .292 OBP, .154 SLG for a .446 OPS. Since April 20th.... April 20+ = .333 / .375 / .333 / .708 May = .253 / .387 / .414 / .801 June = .250 / .438 / .583 / 1.021 Total since 4/20: .263 / .391 / .421 / .812 Basically over the past 7 weeks or so he's been solid. Over the past 30 days, his OBP of .413 is 2nd among ALL (eligible) Left Fielders, .001 point behind Dominic Smith of the Mets. His OPS is 5th at .895 (Winker, Meadows, Canha, Bryant). Even his overall average (.265) is top 10, he's tied for 9th in homers, and 12th in RBI. You can like him or hate him, but he's a professional hitter who has been hitting the ball hard all season & they're starting to fall in the gaps now. Been fun to watch IMO. Really need Grisham back, but IMO a Pham, Grisham, Tatis, Machado, Hosmer, Myers, Cronenworth top 7 isn't too bad, and Nola helps when he returns as well. Now if only we can have more than 3 guys hitting well at a time!! We know where this will end up. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 7, 2021 13:04:18 GMT -8
Sick of the other thread with his name, but think it's worth nothing his progression this season so started a fresh one. As of April 19th (18 games), he was sitting at .135 BA, .292 OBP, .154 SLG for a .446 OPS. Since April 20th.... April 20+ = .333 / .375 / .333 / .708 May = .253 / .387 / .414 / .801 June = .250 / .438 / .583 / 1.021 Total since 4/20: .263 / .391 / .421 / .812 Basically over the past 7 weeks or so he's been solid. Over the past 30 days, his OBP of .413 is 2nd among ALL (eligible) Left Fielders, .001 point behind Dominic Smith of the Mets. His OPS is 5th at .895 (Winker, Meadows, Canha, Bryant). Even his overall average (.265) is top 10, he's tied for 9th in homers, and 12th in RBI. You can like him or hate him, but he's a professional hitter who has been hitting the ball hard all season & they're starting to fall in the gaps now. Been fun to watch IMO. Really need Grisham back, but IMO a Pham, Grisham, Tatis, Machado, Hosmer, Myers, Cronenworth top 7 isn't too bad, and Nola helps when he returns as well. Now if only we can have more than 3 guys hitting well at a time!! We really need Grisham back, and I'm glad Pham has turned it around. Hopefully he keeps it up. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2021 18:59:39 GMT -8
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 7, 2021 23:04:23 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 8, 2021 8:00:44 GMT -8
Meanwhile....
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 8, 2021 12:14:42 GMT -8
Ouch. Makes Pham's .225 vs. .201 look even better, and that ignores the fact its even that much better over the past 6 weeks. I've always valued BB% minus K%, calling it the "(batting) eye test", but I haven't seen in used or tracked much. I think few even pay attention to BB% or K% these days, since OPS is more in favor (& OBP before that). Anything nearing -5% or better would be "excellent". These days the # is so far in the negative it's depressing. Pham's at 17.2-20.1%, or -2.9%. It's about the only thing that saves Profar (-3.2%). |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 8, 2021 12:31:00 GMT -8
Ouch. Makes Pham's .225 vs. .201 look even better, and that ignores the fact its even that much better over the past 6 weeks. I've always valued BB% minus K%, calling it the "(batting) eye test", but I haven't seen in used or tracked much. I think few even pay attention to BB% or K% these days, since OPS is more in favor (& OBP before that). Anything nearing -5% or better would be "excellent". These days the # is so far in the negative it's depressing. Pham's at 17.2-20.1%, or -2.9%. It's about the only thing that saves Profar (-3.2%). I highly recommend the O-Swing% metric which measures the swing rate outside the strike zone and the SwStrk%, which is a true litmus test of not swinging and missing. Tommy Pham has the third best O-Swing% in all of baseball among qualified hitters. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 8, 2021 21:43:58 GMT -8
Ouch. Makes Pham's .225 vs. .201 look even better, and that ignores the fact its even that much better over the past 6 weeks. I've always valued BB% minus K%, calling it the "(batting) eye test", but I haven't seen in used or tracked much. I think few even pay attention to BB% or K% these days, since OPS is more in favor (& OBP before that). Anything nearing -5% or better would be "excellent". These days the # is so far in the negative it's depressing. Pham's at 17.2-20.1%, or -2.9%. It's about the only thing that saves Profar (-3.2%). Underrated part of Profar's game is his ability to put the bat on the ball. Same with Cronenworth. Putting the bat on the ball can drive in runs even without hits with RISP, especially valuable when you're fast enough to run out double plays too. It's great to see Pham turn it around but now it's Profar who is struggling (especially with his slugging numbers). Would love a player with Cronenworth type hitting numbers who could play in the outfield... getting those .300/.375/.450 type batters with high contact rates and plate discipline is what we could really use to drive in more runs... we really could use another high BA/low swinging strike percentage type guy. I feel like this is a really underrated type of player in today's game (the Tony Gywnn type hitter) |
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 8, 2021 22:08:41 GMT -8
I think that something that is also lost in the OBP/SLG/OPS analysis is that walks are not as good as hits, especially with RISP. It's much easier to drive in runs with balls put into play then it is with walks obviously. So a .300/.350/.400 BA/OBP/SLG stat line is better then a .250/.350/.400 Pham type stat line at driving in runs, even though they have the same OPS. When you see bases loaded no outs, and the runs dont come in, you see sometimes walk/walk/strikeout/walk/strikeout/ground out type innings. Not discrediting Pham here btw, hes great at getting on base, just pointing out that it would be nice to have better batting average hitters behind him (obviously Machado has been struggling this year as has Profar). What this also reminds me of is this funny Albert Belle moment where he's at bat and the winning run is in scoring position at the end of the game. He barely gets hit on the hand by the pitch and acts like it didn't hit him because he doesn't want to take first - he wants to get a hit and drive in the winning run: youtu.be/xgr7fQFhZLI |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 9, 2021 8:48:29 GMT -8
Ouch. Makes Pham's .225 vs. .201 look even better, and that ignores the fact its even that much better over the past 6 weeks. I've always valued BB% minus K%, calling it the "(batting) eye test", but I haven't seen in used or tracked much. I think few even pay attention to BB% or K% these days, since OPS is more in favor (& OBP before that). Anything nearing -5% or better would be "excellent". These days the # is so far in the negative it's depressing. Pham's at 17.2-20.1%, or -2.9%. It's about the only thing that saves Profar (-3.2%). Underrated part of Profar's game is his ability to put the bat on the ball. Same with Cronenworth. Putting the bat on the ball can drive in runs even without hits with RISP, especially valuable when you're fast enough to run out double plays too. It's great to see Pham turn it around but now it's Profar who is struggling (especially with his slugging numbers). Would love a player with Cronenworth type hitting numbers who could play in the outfield... getting those .300/.375/.450 type batters with high contact rates and plate discipline is what we could really use to drive in more runs... we really could use another high BA/low swinging strike percentage type guy. I feel like this is a really underrated type of player in today's game (the Tony Gywnn type hitter) Not really undervalued because there is an emphasis still on home runs, even with the deadened ball.. Eh...I mean, I get it. But Cronenworth's in his own massive slump right now (and not even getting on base at this point) - Different guys have different roles. We need the guys who are here to drive in runs to do their job. |
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 9, 2021 10:05:00 GMT -8
I think that something that is also lost in the OBP/SLG/OPS analysis is that walks are not as good as hits, especially with RISP. It's much easier to drive in runs with balls put into play then it is with walks obviously. So a .300/.350/.400 BA/OBP/SLG stat line is better then a .250/.350/.400 Pham type stat line at driving in runs, even though they have the same OPS. When you see bases loaded no outs, and the runs dont come in, you see sometimes walk/walk/strikeout/walk/strikeout/ground out type innings. Not discrediting Pham here btw, hes great at getting on base, just pointing out that it would be nice to have better batting average hitters behind him (obviously Machado has been struggling this year as has Profar). What this also reminds me of is this funny Albert Belle moment where he's at bat and the winning run is in scoring position at the end of the game. He barely gets hit on the hand by the pitch and acts like it didn't hit him because he doesn't want to take first - he wants to get a hit and drive in the winning run: youtu.be/xgr7fQFhZLIPham's batting leadoff, not 3rd or 4th, and he strikes out much less than most (65 percentile). Getting on base is as good as a hit, and given his speed he's turned several walks into "doubles" & actually GETS in scoring position. 3 SB's in June already! Batting 1st/2nd you're a table setter - that's the goal, and a .400+ OBP is exactly what we need from someone in that position. As for RISP, again, while batting 1st/2nd, you want to "keep the line moving". A walk could move yet another into scoring position, while setting up the RBI guys behind him for success. His XBA on the season is in the 55th percentile, so it's better than average, and his overall BA% is .261 since May 20th. It's not like he's not putting the ball in play. With 1 out & a man on 3rd, I trust Pham to either move the line and/or put the ball in play much more so than most anyone else on the team right now. That's a good thing. |
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Post by azson on Jun 9, 2021 10:27:45 GMT -8
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 9, 2021 11:21:23 GMT -8
I think that something that is also lost in the OBP/SLG/OPS analysis is that walks are not as good as hits, especially with RISP. It's much easier to drive in runs with balls put into play then it is with walks obviously. So a .300/.350/.400 BA/OBP/SLG stat line is better then a .250/.350/.400 Pham type stat line at driving in runs, even though they have the same OPS. When you see bases loaded no outs, and the runs dont come in, you see sometimes walk/walk/strikeout/walk/strikeout/ground out type innings. Not discrediting Pham here btw, hes great at getting on base, just pointing out that it would be nice to have better batting average hitters behind him (obviously Machado has been struggling this year as has Profar). What this also reminds me of is this funny Albert Belle moment where he's at bat and the winning run is in scoring position at the end of the game. He barely gets hit on the hand by the pitch and acts like it didn't hit him because he doesn't want to take first - he wants to get a hit and drive in the winning run: youtu.be/xgr7fQFhZLIPham's batting leadoff, not 3rd or 4th, and he strikes out much less than most (65 percentile). Getting on base is as good as a hit, and given his speed he's turned several walks into "doubles" & actually GETS in scoring position. 3 SB's in June already! Batting 1st/2nd you're a table setter - that's the goal, and a .400+ OBP is exactly what we need from someone in that position. As for RISP, again, while batting 1st/2nd, you want to "keep the line moving". A walk could move yet another into scoring position, while setting up the RBI guys behind him for success. His XBA on the season is in the 55th percentile, so it's better than average, and his overall BA% is .261 since May 20th. It's not like he's not putting the ball in play. With 1 out & a man on 3rd, I trust Pham to either move the line and/or put the ball in play much more so than most anyone else on the team right now. That's a good thing. Yeah I said that's a good thing that Pham gets on base - I think that this post was supposed to go on the thread about the Padres numbers with RISP, and how we stranded a bunch of guys with the bases loaded. That's not Phams fault. Wrong thread. |
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Post by aardvark on Jun 9, 2021 15:57:46 GMT -8
Pham with a single, a stolen base, and scored the only Padres run today, on a single by Machado. And...also struck out 3 times. The good and the bad. And Pham had arguably the best line for the Padres in the box score today. No one is hitting. No one.
Good time for a day off tomorrow.
But on Friday, they get to face DeGrom again.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 9, 2021 16:48:53 GMT -8
Pham with a single, a stolen base, and scored the only Padres run today, on a single by Machado. And...also struck out 3 times. The good and the bad. And Pham had arguably the best line for the Padres in the box score today. No one is hitting. No one. Good time for a day off tomorrow. But on Friday, they get to face DeGrom again. That's how bad it is. Pham can strike out three times and that's the best line. Sheesh. |
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 16, 2021 11:09:04 GMT -8
Pham past 30 days (among all eligible MLB players):
- 28th in BA at .307
- 4th in OBP at .440
- 31st in SLG at .523
- 11th in OPS at .963
Ranking among Padres & widening the pool to 30 total ABs: 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd respectively (only behind Tatis in the other 3)
Dude has been raking for 6-7 weeks now, hitting .287/.460/.525/.985 since April 20th.
Hopefully by now the idiot fans in left field will quit razzing him.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 16, 2021 12:46:04 GMT -8
Pham past 30 days (among all eligible MLB players): - 28th in BA at .307 - 4th in OBP at .440 - 31st in SLG at .523 - 11th in OPS at .963 Ranking among Padres & widening the pool to 30 total ABs: 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd respectively (only behind Tatis in the other 3) Dude has been raking for 6-7 weeks now, hitting .287/.460/.525/.985 since April 20th. Hopefully by now the idiot fans in left field will quit razzing him. They should not be razzing him. They're probably drunk idiots. He's completely turned it around. Let's hope he stays at a consistent level throughout the season. |
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