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Post by aztecryan on Feb 13, 2021 14:29:11 GMT -8
It's a tough call, but I'd bet on New York. It's interesting how Mitch McConnell admitted that Trump was responsible, yet still voted to acquit based on constitutional defense, which was already removed when the Senate voted to make the trial constitutional. He's clearly trying to win back control of the party and distance himself from Trump, but he's in the minority there. Kevin McCarthy's call and subsequent visit to Florida to kiss the ring is troubling. Yep. Shocked at McConnell's comments, but with all of the DA's and AG's waiting in the wings, someone is bound to have success against Trump. That alone should keep Trump from attempting to run in 2024. We certainly don't need another 78 year-old President. Now, if something (term limits?) could be done about all of the other fossils in congress on both sides of the aisle. I'm not shocked. He said there was no way he could convene the Senate and then said it was unconstitutional after Trump left office. He's a two-faced snake. Rob Portman said the same thing, arguing that the trial wasn't constitutional. It is VERY telling that the 2 members who flip-flopped their votes are not seeking re-election. |
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 13, 2021 14:33:54 GMT -8
Yep. Shocked at McConnell's comments, but with all of the DA's and AG's waiting in the wings, someone is bound to have success against Trump. That alone should keep Trump from attempting to run in 2024. We certainly don't need another 78 year-old President. Now, if something (term limits?) could be done about all of the other fossils in congress on both sides of the aisle. I'm not shocked. He said there was no way he could convene the Senate and then said it was unconstitutional after Trump left office. He's a two-faced snake. Rob Portman said the same thing, arguing that the trial wasn't constitutional. It is VERY telling that the 2 members who flip-flopped their votes are not seeking re-election. Everything we need to know is that in secret vote, he gets convicted easy..not close. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Feb 13, 2021 14:57:24 GMT -8
I'm seeing a lot of people changing voter registrations from Republican to Independent.
Given the state of the Trumpublican party, I can support that.
I won't support any candidate who supported Trump.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 13, 2021 15:34:56 GMT -8
I'm seeing a lot of people changing voter registrations from Republican to Independent. Given the state of the Trumpublican party, I can support that. I won't support any candidate who supported Trump. Trump will control that party for a while. Multiple GOP's are censuring their own representation now. In Louisiana, for example. |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 13, 2021 16:02:20 GMT -8
Trump acquitted for the second time by the Senate.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 13, 2021 19:01:57 GMT -8
Trump acquitted for the second time by the Senate. An awful day in American history. |
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Post by podpeople on Feb 13, 2021 23:09:43 GMT -8
I'm not shocked. He said there was no way he could convene the Senate and then said it was unconstitutional after Trump left office. He's a two-faced snake. Rob Portman said the same thing, arguing that the trial wasn't constitutional. It is VERY telling that the 2 members who flip-flopped their votes are not seeking re-election. Everything we need to know is that in secret vote, he gets convicted easy..not close. In the political climate of today, I really think that they should start considering making these types of votes private. |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 14, 2021 11:56:23 GMT -8
I don't get it. It's clear, more or less, that the goal of the Democrats in their second impeachment effort
is to prevent Trump from running in 2024. This makes no sense.
No doubt many millions would vote for him again if he got the nomination. On the other hand, that's just what the Dems should want to happen. He is NOT going to win in '24.
Biden will NOT run in '24, as everybody knows. Trump would just split the GOP as he did this last year, making it a near certainty that even a lousy Dem candidate will win. That means 3 straight Dem terms in the White House (re-election of an incumbent is not impossible but difficult), which should be enough time for the Left to stack the deck so heavily that the GOP will not win the Presidency until (if ever) after mid-century.
In any case, the Dems should be encouraging Trump to run in 2024.
I am not sure that he will even run. A lot can happen in four years. Trump will be 78 years old in 2024. His health may fail. Or his wife may rebel. Or one of his kids will run instead of Pop. Or the GOP may nominate someone else. (Which would have happened in '16 if such things were still decided in smoky backrooms by party insiders.)
By trying so hard to prevent Trump from running, the Democrats are signaling that they really fear him politically. As I have explained, that have no reason to fear Candidate Trump. Quite the contrary.
AzWmPS: I should also mention the obvious fact that the voters of America should decide who will run for the White House (i.e., primaries). By eliminating the possibility of Trump's running in '24, the Dems would be doing what is routinely done in very bad places, such as Iran. The spiritual leader of that nation gets to approve or bar candidates. Is that what we want? Lindsey Graham endorsed Lara Trump's run in 2024 this morning. Still don't think it's a big deal? |
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