|
Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 12, 2021 10:33:36 GMT -8
So you're telling me that Trump went to all this trouble to NOT extend his term illegally, is that what you're saying? You're saying that he didn't intend, at all, to cancel Biden's properly elected term and replace him, is that correct? Trump went to all the trouble listed in the original post just to, what? Have a tantrum and scare people?? Did you really delete Alometer's posts? If so, on what grounds? One post. On the grounds that it was complete and utter stupidity and incompetence on my part. I meant to quote him, didn't realize I hit the EDIT button instead, deleted some stuff that was just rambling nonsense and responded to the rest... ...and then realized I totally screwed up his post, permanently editing stuff out that I didn't mean to. What was left was a mess, so I just deleted it. Nothing intentional, just an accident. The Edit button for Mods is right where the Quote button is for everyone else (and I've got multiple accounts on other ProBards groups, so I'm used to hitting the button in that spot). My bad.
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Jan 12, 2021 10:45:56 GMT -8
Did you really delete Alometer's posts? If so, on what grounds? One post. On the grounds that it was complete and utter stupidity and incompetence on my part. I meant to quote him, didn't realize I hit the EDIT button instead, deleted some stuff that was just rambling nonsense and responded to the rest... ...and then realized I totally screwed up his post, permanently editing stuff out that I didn't mean to. What was left was a mess, so I just deleted it. Nothing intentional, just an accident. The Edit button for Mods is right where the Quote button is for everyone else (and I've got multiple accounts on other ProBards groups, so I'm used to hitting the button in that spot). My bad. Ok. Just curious. Accidents happen.
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Jan 12, 2021 10:54:33 GMT -8
No, don't rush to judgment. Lol. I'm using a quote from Panther so he'll get my question. I don't care who the person is, no one should be censored without just cause. It's the first thing you responded to. Read the room. So, now you're going to tell me when I should post? Good grief. I read the room. That's how I learn and I chime in when I feel like it. I happened to be curious what Alometer wrote, and wanted to read it just like all the other posts here. Is that ok with you? If not, I'll gladly get your permission before I post each and every time. Sheesh.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Jan 12, 2021 11:01:13 GMT -8
It's the first thing you responded to. Read the room. So, now you're going to tell me when I should post? Good grief. I read the room. That's how I learn and I chime in when I feel like it. I happened to be curious what Alometer wrote, and wanted to read it just like all the other posts here. Is that ok with you? If not, I'll gladly get your permission before I post each and every time. Sheesh. On the list of things that matter (considering the source is in support of a guy who is responsible for getting people murdered) it's pretty low on the totem pole. Glad you're so tolerant though. Admirable.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Jan 12, 2021 11:02:14 GMT -8
This is pretty troubling at this juncture with the inauguration just days away. Infiltration is not an isolated issue.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Jan 12, 2021 11:21:28 GMT -8
So he's either inept, incompetent or they are lying.
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Jan 12, 2021 11:32:37 GMT -8
So, now you're going to tell me when I should post? Good grief. I read the room. That's how I learn and I chime in when I feel like it. I happened to be curious what Alometer wrote, and wanted to read it just like all the other posts here. Is that ok with you? If not, I'll gladly get your permission before I post each and every time. Sheesh. On the list of things that matter (considering the source is in support of a guy who is responsible for getting people murdered) it's pretty low on the totem pole. Glad you're so tolerant though. Admirable. So, now you're deciding for me what should be high or low on the totem pole. Dictator much? I like to hear both sides and judge for myself. I want read ALL posts. None should be deleted without a good reason. By the way, if you hadn't noticed already, I usually only chime in when I disagree with something. Or, if I'm not sure, I won't say anything.
|
|
|
Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 12, 2021 11:37:48 GMT -8
So he's either inept, incompetent or they are lying. I'd buy that as possible IF NOT FOR ALL THE OTHER STUFF IN THE TIMELINE.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Jan 12, 2021 12:04:58 GMT -8
On the list of things that matter (considering the source is in support of a guy who is responsible for getting people murdered) it's pretty low on the totem pole. Glad you're so tolerant though. Admirable. So, now you're deciding for me what should be high or low on the totem pole. Dictator much? I like to hear both sides and judge for myself. I want read ALL posts. None should be deleted without a good reason. By the way, if you hadn't noticed already, I usually only chime in when I disagree with something. Or, if I'm not sure, I won't say anything. I'm not deciding for you. It's obvious to anyone who doesn't want to be willfully argumentative over trivial things. Insurrection or a message board post. That's quite a gap.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Jan 12, 2021 12:13:16 GMT -8
So he's either inept, incompetent or they are lying. I'd buy that as possible IF NOT FOR ALL THE OTHER STUFF IN THE TIMELINE. The House has secured enough votes to make Donald Trump the only president in history to be impeached twice.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Jan 12, 2021 12:17:42 GMT -8
I have no idea how to translate this, but I hope it's used in his impeachment.
|
|
|
Post by uwphoto on Jan 12, 2021 12:27:32 GMT -8
I don’t about you guys, but this whole thing is giving me a huge headache. This does not end well. 2021 may make 2020 look like "the days of our lives". I ask this question again. Does the far right also have grandkids, savings accounts, SS checks etc.? They are playing with fire in an attempt to destabilize America. Remember the Soviet Union falling apart? How close are we to that? Everybody have 50 gallons of water in their garage and know how to get to your neighbor's pool water? Plenty of food, generator, etc.? This is where we are heading if this $#!+ keeps up. China and Russia are besides themselves with glee watching this...and they didn't have to fire one shot.
|
|
|
Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 12, 2021 12:33:43 GMT -8
I don’t about you guys, but this whole thing is giving me a huge headache. This does not end well. 2021 may make 2020 look like "the days of our lives". I ask this question again. Does the far right also have grandkids, savings accounts, SS checks etc.? They are playing with fire in an attempt to destabilize America. Remember the Soviet Union falling apart? How close are we to that? Everybody have 50 gallons of water in their garage and know how to get to your neighbor's pool water? Plenty of food, generator, etc.? This is where we are heading if this $#!+ keeps up. China and Russia are besides themselves with glee watching this...and they didn't have to fire one shot. Yeah, anyone NOT supporting the peaceful transition of power is supporting the further fracturing of the country. I'm no big Biden supporter, but he won the election and he IS the President elect. I support THE COUNTRY, so I support the peaceful transition of power as it needs to be transferred to keep the country intact.
|
|
|
Post by podpeople on Jan 12, 2021 12:36:56 GMT -8
So he's either inept, incompetent or they are lying. I'd buy that as possible IF NOT FOR ALL THE OTHER STUFF IN THE TIMELINE. anybody who's been watching this administration for the last 4 plus years shouldn't find your scenario hard to believe. the investigation will uncover the origins of the sedition, and I'm certain that it will all lead back to the Trump administration, and will likely fall at the lap of Stephen Miller and POTUS.
|
|
|
Post by azson on Jan 12, 2021 12:38:22 GMT -8
I don’t about you guys, but this whole thing is giving me a huge headache. This does not end well. 2021 may make 2020 look like "the days of our lives". I ask this question again. Does the far right also have grandkids, savings accounts, SS checks etc.? They are playing with fire in an attempt to destabilize America. Remember the Soviet Union falling apart? How close are we to that? Everybody have 50 gallons of water in their garage and know how to get to your neighbor's pool water? Plenty of food, generator, etc.? This is where we are heading if this $#!+ keeps up. China and Russia are besides themselves with glee watching this...and they didn't have to fire one shot. Your concerns are justified but I truly think things will dramatically improve once this clown is out of office. Of course there are still millions of knuckleheads (including a few who post here) who still support him but I have confidence in the strength of our political mechanisms that will correct much of the damage this toddler in men's clothing has done over the past four years. One thing is for sure: those who have lived through the 2016 election and the past four years will never again underestimate the importance of voting.
|
|
|
Post by uwphoto on Jan 12, 2021 12:39:21 GMT -8
ps, give Ted nugent, Lapierre, QAnon, rar right whacks their own state. Maybe Alabama, Kentucky and a couple others. they can have their wet dream country. Note: the music will suck.
|
|
|
Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 12, 2021 12:45:35 GMT -8
I happened to be curious what Alometer wrote, and wanted to read it just like all the other posts here. Aztec Panther can correct me if he remembers it differently but essentially what I said that to call this a coup requires that you don’t know what a coup is. There are at least two aspects to the events of the 6th that clearly make it not a coup with the most important being that a coup is the overthrowing of a leader of the government. On January 6, Joe Biden wasn’t a leader of anything and they certainly weren’t trying to overthrow Trump. You might be able to make a case for it being sedition but to call it a coup is clearly wrong. Aztec Panther said Trump did all of this to extend his term thinking that if no Electoral College votes were confirmed that Trump would just go on being President forever. I showed him that the 20th Amendment falsified that idea and if no Electoral College votes had been confirmed then Nancy Pelosi would have automatically become President at noon on January 20. As a bonus item, Aztec Panther keeps like to insist this was a preplanned assault where Trump told his fans to “fight like hell” and “be strong” before he sent them to march on the Capitol while conveniently omitting what Trump actually said to the crowd before they marched to the Capitol. Here is the full quote of what Trump told the crowd at his rally to do in his pre-planned assault to overthrow the US government.
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Jan 12, 2021 12:45:42 GMT -8
ps, give Ted nugent, Lapierre, QAnon, rar right whacks their own state. Maybe Alabama, Kentucky and a couple others. they can have their wet dream country. Note: the music will suck. That's funny.
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Jan 12, 2021 12:51:05 GMT -8
I happened to be curious what Alometer wrote, and wanted to read it just like all the other posts here. Aztec Panther can correct me if he remembers it differently but essentially what I said that to call this a coup requires that you don’t know what a coup is. There are at least two aspects to the events of the 6th that clearly make it not a coup with the most important being that a coup is the overthrowing of a leader of the government. On January 6, Joe Biden wasn’t a leader of anything and they certainly weren’t trying to overthrow Trump. You might be able to make a case for it being sedition but to call it a coup is clearly wrong. Aztec Panther said Trump did all of this to extend his term thinking that if no Electoral College votes were confirmed that Trump would just go on being President forever. I showed him that the 20th Amendment falsified that idea and if no Electoral College votes had been confirmed then Nancy Pelosi would have automatically become President at noon on January 20. As a bonus item, Aztec Panther keeps like to insist this was a preplanned assault where Trump told his fans to “fight like hell” and “be strong” before he sent them to march on the Capitol while conveniently omitting what Trump actually said to the crowd before they marched to the Capitol. Here is the full quote of what Trump told the crowd at his rally to do in his pre-planned assault to overthrow the US government. Thanks for reposting it. I haven't delved into what Trump said exactly before the Capitol protest. I'm hearing different versions. I'll have to look for it myself.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Jan 12, 2021 13:01:55 GMT -8
Aztec Panther can correct me if he remembers it differently but essentially what I said that to call this a coup requires that you don’t know what a coup is. There are at least two aspects to the events of the 6th that clearly make it not a coup with the most important being that a coup is the overthrowing of a leader of the government. On January 6, Joe Biden wasn’t a leader of anything and they certainly weren’t trying to overthrow Trump. You might be able to make a case for it being sedition but to call it a coup is clearly wrong. Aztec Panther said Trump did all of this to extend his term thinking that if no Electoral College votes were confirmed that Trump would just go on being President forever. I showed him that the 20th Amendment falsified that idea and if no Electoral College votes had been confirmed then Nancy Pelosi would have automatically become President at noon on January 20. As a bonus item, Aztec Panther keeps like to insist this was a preplanned assault where Trump told his fans to “fight like hell” and “be strong” before he sent them to march on the Capitol while conveniently omitting what Trump actually said to the crowd before they marched to the Capitol. Here is the full quote of what Trump told the crowd at his rally to do in his pre-planned assault to overthrow the US government. Thanks for reposting it. I haven't delved into what Trump said exactly before the Capitol protest. I'm hearing different versions. I'll have to look for it myself. youtu.be/ht20eDYmLXU Skip to 2:36:34. You light the match, you can't ignore the fire, no matter the mental gymnastics the OP wants to create. Calling for peace while amplifying divisive and violent rhetoric, understanding full well the crowd contained Neo-Nazis and radical QAnon conspiracy theorists doesn't compute.
|
|