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Post by sdcoug on Sept 25, 2020 9:28:49 GMT -8
Apparently the 1st vote yesterday was 7-5 in favor of starting early, with UCLA, UW, Stanford, Cal & Colorado dissenting. Colorado makes sense, given recent Boulder County rule about 18-22-year-olds gathering, and Stanford can afford to miss a year. But surprised by the others.
When that happened, Utah threatened to leave the P12 for the B12, and USC threatened to go independent for a year (or two). That brought everyone back in line & they voted unanimously.
Utah & Colorado have been very upset with the P12 lately, and UA & ASU have been for a while. Might we see chaos eventually and some shifts? If those 4 start to move, the doors (to both conferences) may be ajar.
I do think kudo's need to be given to the MWC - they voted after the P12 yet decided to play 2 weeks prior. The P12 is really a sh#@ sh#@ right now.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 25, 2020 9:56:31 GMT -8
Apparently the 1st vote yesterday was 7-5 in favor of starting early, with UCLA, UW, Stanford, Cal & Colorado dissenting. Colorado makes sense, given recent Boulder County rule about 18-22-year-olds gathering, and Stanford can afford to miss a year. But surprised by the others. When that happened, Utah threatened to leave the P12 for the B12, and USC threatened to go independent for a year (or two). That brought everyone back in line & they voted unanimously. Utah & Colorado have been very upset with the P12 lately, and UA & ASU have been for a while. Might we see chaos eventually and some shifts? If those 4 start to move, the doors (to both conferences) may be ajar. I do think kudo's need to be given to the MWC - they voted after the P12 yet decided to play 2 weeks prior. The P12 is really a sh#@ sh#@ right now. A little, or a lot, of chaos is what we'll need in order to move to a better conference. Bring it on.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Sept 25, 2020 10:07:42 GMT -8
Life is full of discord. This too shall pass.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 25, 2020 10:31:13 GMT -8
Apparently the 1st vote yesterday was 7-5 in favor of starting early, with UCLA, UW, Stanford, Cal & Colorado dissenting. Colorado makes sense, given recent Boulder County rule about 18-22-year-olds gathering, and Stanford can afford to miss a year. But surprised by the others. When that happened, Utah threatened to leave the P12 for the B12, and USC threatened to go independent for a year (or two). That brought everyone back in line & they voted unanimously. Utah & Colorado have been very upset with the P12 lately, and UA & ASU have been for a while. Might we see chaos eventually and some shifts? If those 4 start to move, the doors (to both conferences) may be ajar. I do think kudo's need to be given to the MWC - they voted after the P12 yet decided to play 2 weeks prior. The P12 is really a sh#@ sh#@ right now.
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 25, 2020 11:26:06 GMT -8
Apparently the 1st vote yesterday was 7-5 in favor of starting early, with UCLA, UW, Stanford, Cal & Colorado dissenting. Colorado makes sense, given recent Boulder County rule about 18-22-year-olds gathering, and Stanford can afford to miss a year. But surprised by the others. When that happened, Utah threatened to leave the P12 for the B12, and USC threatened to go independent for a year (or two). That brought everyone back in line & they voted unanimously. Utah & Colorado have been very upset with the P12 lately, and UA & ASU have been for a while. Might we see chaos eventually and some shifts? If those 4 start to move, the doors (to both conferences) may be ajar. I do think kudo's need to be given to the MWC - they voted after the P12 yet decided to play 2 weeks prior. The P12 is really a sh#@ sh#@ right now. A little, or a lot, of chaos is what we'll need in order to move to a better conference. Bring it on. If Utah were to go to the B12 I'd imagine they'd need a travel buddy. That could bite us in the butt if Boise was to be picked to go with them. Since Colorado came from the Big12 it wouldn't make sense for them to go back... or would they? Gotta love college football realignment!
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Post by robthevol on Sept 25, 2020 11:46:33 GMT -8
As i've mentioned before, in confusion there is profit...for someone.
The huge debt load accumulated by the bottom of the P5, secured by future TV revenue, will be the next issue.
It's all good for SDSU!
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Post by AzTex on Sept 25, 2020 12:22:56 GMT -8
A little, or a lot, of chaos is what we'll need in order to move to a better conference. Bring it on. If Utah were to go to the B12 I'd imagine they'd need a travel buddy. That could bite us in the butt if Boise was to be picked to go with them. Since Colorado came from the Big12 it wouldn't make sense for them to go back... or would they? Gotta love college football realignment! I don't think that would bite us. Realignment turmoil would have only 2 possible outcomes for us. We stay where we are, or get get a chance (slim) of moving up.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 25, 2020 12:43:56 GMT -8
ASU, U of A, CU and Utah to the Big 12 would be perfect for SDSU.
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Post by Frantic on Sept 25, 2020 13:45:39 GMT -8
Apparently the 1st vote yesterday was 7-5 in favor of starting early, with UCLA, UW, Stanford, Cal & Colorado dissenting. Colorado makes sense, given recent Boulder County rule about 18-22-year-olds gathering, and Stanford can afford to miss a year. But surprised by the others. When that happened, Utah threatened to leave the P12 for the B12, and USC threatened to go independent for a year (or two). That brought everyone back in line & they voted unanimously. So the Fearful Five were set in their position, until they realized it would cost them money, and then it was a unanimous vote. Another example of society choosing to accept a minor risk in order to move forward with life.
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Post by namssa on Sept 25, 2020 14:04:46 GMT -8
ASU, U of A, CU and Utah to the Big 12 would be perfect for SDSU. I think USC, UCLA, ASU, UA going to the Big-12 would be perfect. Then Southern California would be open. I don't think we get in if UCLA and USC remain in the PAC-12.
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 25, 2020 14:15:23 GMT -8
ASU, U of A, CU and Utah to the Big 12 would be perfect for SDSU. I don't think we get in if UCLA and USC remain in the PAC-12. Exactly. Or we get into the Big 12. That would be better for national recognition and recruiting.
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Post by laaztec on Sept 25, 2020 14:18:32 GMT -8
ASU, U of A, CU and Utah to the Big 12 would be perfect for SDSU. I think USC, UCLA, ASU, UA going to the Big-12 would be perfect. Then Southern California would be open. I don't think we get in if UCLA and USC remain in the PAC-12. USC would go Indy before they would join the Big 12.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 25, 2020 14:33:10 GMT -8
ASU, U of A, CU and Utah to the Big 12 would be perfect for SDSU. I think USC, UCLA, ASU, UA going to the Big-12 would be perfect. Then Southern California would be open. I don't think we get in if UCLA and USC remain in the PAC-12. I don't think USC or UCLA would ever go to the B12, but UA & ASU could, and that could play in a couple ways. That would bring the B12 closer to us, making them more likely to expand into USC & UCLA's markets by adding us. We might be able to play the P12 & B12 against each other in that scenario. All are longshots, and there are definitely other hurdles to cross (i.e. academically in the P12, distance in the B12, etc.). But any discord at least might make the leash a little shorter down the road.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 25, 2020 15:34:19 GMT -8
I don't think we get in if UCLA and USC remain in the PAC-12. Exactly. Or we get into the Big 12. That would be better for national recognition and recruiting. I have no problem with us joining the B12. I'm not completely sure, but sometimes I find myself preferring that to the P12. Wouldn't turn either one down.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Sept 25, 2020 15:38:40 GMT -8
Sounds good to me .
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Post by Boise Aztec on Sept 25, 2020 18:59:29 GMT -8
Utah, Colorado, ASU and Arizona all have issues with the way the California, Oregon and UW schools treat them.
Especially, Utah and Colorado. UofU would go to the B12 in a heartbeat.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Sept 25, 2020 19:30:15 GMT -8
Apparently the 1st vote yesterday was 7-5 in favor of starting early, with UCLA, UW, Stanford, Cal & Colorado dissenting. Colorado makes sense, given recent Boulder County rule about 18-22-year-olds gathering, and Stanford can afford to miss a year. But surprised by the others. When that happened, Utah threatened to leave the P12 for the B12, and USC threatened to go independent for a year (or two). That brought everyone back in line & they voted unanimously. Utah & Colorado have been very upset with the P12 lately, and UA & ASU have been for a while. Might we see chaos eventually and some shifts? If those 4 start to move, the doors (to both conferences) may be ajar. I do think kudo's need to be given to the MWC - they voted after the P12 yet decided to play 2 weeks prior. The P12 is really a sh#@ sh#@ right now. Would be interesting to know the source of this very classified conversation that I don't see yet in any media.
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Sept 26, 2020 5:16:51 GMT -8
Utah, Colorado, ASU and Arizona all have issues with the way the California, Oregon and UW schools treat them. Especially, Utah and Colorado. UofU would go to the B12 in a heartbeat. I have heard things like this in the past. Are you aware of any specific examples of poor treatment by these schools/administrators?
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Sept 26, 2020 5:20:11 GMT -8
Apparently the 1st vote yesterday was 7-5 in favor of starting early, with UCLA, UW, Stanford, Cal & Colorado dissenting. Colorado makes sense, given recent Boulder County rule about 18-22-year-olds gathering, and Stanford can afford to miss a year. But surprised by the others. When that happened, Utah threatened to leave the P12 for the B12, and USC threatened to go independent for a year (or two). That brought everyone back in line & they voted unanimously. Utah & Colorado have been very upset with the P12 lately, and UA & ASU have been for a while. Might we see chaos eventually and some shifts? If those 4 start to move, the doors (to both conferences) may be ajar. I do think kudo's need to be given to the MWC - they voted after the P12 yet decided to play 2 weeks prior. The P12 is really a sh#@ sh#@ right now. Would be interesting to know the source of this very classified conversation that I don't see yet in any media. The source is sdcoug and he has a magic 8ball. He does seem to have a lot of reliable information which is good to see him post on here. 😁
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Post by RiffelBooks on Sept 26, 2020 8:25:19 GMT -8
The thing is, we've been hearing this kind of talk for a few years now, and nothing has happened. The Big 12 would take any of those schools without a second thought. If UofA, ASU, CU or UU really want to leave, they could have done so. They've chose to put up with the weirdness to remain with the Pac-12. One explanation: the Pac-12 is far stronger academically, and that matters to college presidents.
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