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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 15, 2020 16:35:40 GMT -8
KOGO and Carl DeMaio were reporting today that SDSUās 400+ (or whatever number) reported cases may push San Diego County into the āpurpleā status, which is the most severe of the State of Californiaās metrics for measuring the outbreak.
I hate to say it, but this could be the last straw for many local small businesses holding on by their fingernails. And Iāll stop here, my true feelings would undoubtedly infuriate roughly 35% of the posters....no need for that.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 15, 2020 16:54:31 GMT -8
KOGO and Carl DeMaio were reporting today that SDSUās 400+ (or whatever number) reported cases may push San Diego County into the āpurpleā status, which is the most severe of the State of Californiaās metrics for measuring the outbreak. I hate to say it, but this could be the last straw for many local small businesses holding on by their fingernails. And Iāll stop here, my true feelings would undoubtedly infuriate roughly 35% of the posters....no need for that. Based on the number of new cases per 100,000 we already in the purple status. If we stay there one more week then the County will be classified as purple tier. Resturants and other businesses will no longer be able to serve people indoors.
You're right. This could kill more businesses. The opening and closing and opening and closing becomes disruptive and expensive, especially for a small business.
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Post by aztecbb on Sept 15, 2020 19:06:43 GMT -8
6,000 hospital beds in SD, only 200 + occupied with COVID patients...
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Post by Frantic on Sept 15, 2020 19:11:58 GMT -8
6,000 hospital beds in SD, only 200 + occupied with COVID patients... When is the last time you heard "Flatten the Curve"? |
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Post by AzTex on Sept 15, 2020 21:34:22 GMT -8
6,000 hospital beds in SD, only 200 + occupied with COVID patients... When is the last time you heard "Flatten the Curve"? Long ago and far far away. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 15, 2020 23:23:59 GMT -8
Of the 400+ SDSU students who have been infected none have needed to be hospitalized.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 16, 2020 4:33:44 GMT -8
6,000 hospital beds in SD, only 200 + occupied with COVID patients... When is the last time you heard "Flatten the Curve"? unfortunately the State of CA thought DR. Fauci was an economist. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Sept 16, 2020 4:37:11 GMT -8
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Sept 16, 2020 4:42:19 GMT -8
They can't seriously shut down businesses again, and I don't think they're dumb enough to do so. The state of California would almost threaten to vote red if they keep this BS up IMO (sort of tongue-and-cheek). There's going to be a revolution among businesses at some point and I don't think its too far away
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Post by longtimebooster on Sept 16, 2020 5:40:19 GMT -8
They can't seriously shut down businesses again, and I don't think they're dumb enough to do so. The state of California would almost threaten to vote red if they keep this BS up IMO (sort of tongue-and-cheek). There's going to be a revolution among businesses at some point and I don't think its too far away God, I know. If it weren't for all these p*ssies getting hospitalized and dying from COVID, our economy would be doing great. Suck it up and take it like a man (or woman) (or trans). Seriously. What a bunch of babies. What's a little pandemic among friends? |
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Post by longtimebooster on Sept 16, 2020 5:43:47 GMT -8
It's 676 as of yesterday. sa.sdsu.edu/student-health-services/covid19-case-alert-protocol"Since Aug. 24, SDSU is aware of 667 confirmed cases among students at SDSU and nine (9) probable cases among students. The university has not received any reports of faculty and staff who have tested positive since fall instruction began. This brings the total probable and confirmed case count at SDSU to 676 as of Sept. 14 at 6 p.m., with the majority of these cases being among students living off-campus in San Diego." And one big question: There's an SDSU Georgia? Oh, man. Just looked it up. I thought it might have to something to do with the entrepreneurial center at Georgia Tech, with which SDSU has been canoodling with for the past few years. But, no, it's actually the country Georgia. Sheesh. Who knew? Maybe we could play our football games in Tbilisi. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_State_University_Georgia_Campus |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Sept 16, 2020 5:52:13 GMT -8
They can't seriously shut down businesses again, and I don't think they're dumb enough to do so. The state of California would almost threaten to vote red if they keep this BS up IMO (sort of tongue-and-cheek). There's going to be a revolution among businesses at some point and I don't think its too far away God, I know. If it weren't for all these p*ssies getting hospitalized and dying from COVID, our economy would be doing great. Suck it up and take it like a man (or woman) (or trans). Seriously. What a bunch of babies. What's a little pandemic among friends? Great post, thanks for your input.
In San Diego, in a county of 3.38 million, a total of 734 deaths have occurred, 96% of whom had other underlying conditions and the median age of death is 78. The average life expectancy of the average person in the US is 78. www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/dam/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/Epidemiology/COVID-19%20Watch.pdf
How anyone can think statistics like these can warrant disregarding mental health (suicides/depression), physical health (alcohol sales, closing gyms, etc), and the government taking away people's life work and their businesses is absolutely baffling to me. It needs to be about weighing risks and making safety adjustments, not avoiding all potential COVID at any cost.
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Post by longtimebooster on Sept 16, 2020 6:09:04 GMT -8
God, I know. If it weren't for all these p*ssies getting hospitalized and dying from COVID, our economy would be doing great. Suck it up and take it like a man (or woman) (or trans). Seriously. What a bunch of babies. What's a little pandemic among friends? Great post, thanks for your input.
In San Diego, in a county of 3.38 million, a total of 734 deaths have occurred, 96% of whom had other underlying conditions and the median age of death is 78. The average life expectancy of the average person in the US is 78. www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/dam/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/Epidemiology/COVID-19%20Watch.pdf
How anyone can think statistics like these can warrant disregarding mental health (suicides/depression), physical health (alcohol sales, closing gyms, etc), and the government taking away people's life work and their businesses is absolutely baffling to me. It needs to be about weighing risks and making safety adjustments, not avoiding all potential COVID at any cost.
Concur. These old people are just a drag on society anyway. We should just start shipping them off to live on the same farm your parents sent your aging dog to live when your were a kid. |
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Post by š„ø Hopeless Aztec on Sept 16, 2020 6:23:58 GMT -8
Great post, thanks for your input.
In San Diego, in a county of 3.38 million, a total of 734 deaths have occurred, 96% of whom had other underlying conditions and the median age of death is 78. The average life expectancy of the average person in the US is 78. www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/dam/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/Epidemiology/COVID-19%20Watch.pdf
How anyone can think statistics like these can warrant disregarding mental health (suicides/depression), physical health (alcohol sales, closing gyms, etc), and the government taking away people's life work and their businesses is absolutely baffling to me. It needs to be about weighing risks and making safety adjustments, not avoiding all potential COVID at any cost.
Concur. These old people are just a drag on society anyway. We should just start shipping them off to live on the same farm your parents sent your aging dog to live when your were a kid. This just reminded me of that movie Dumb and Dumber when Jim Carrey is talking to that old lady. I just started laughing and thinking of that when I read your post. Besides, no need to send them to a farm when we can just send them to a home or COVID incubator. In all seriousness, we need to stop making this about the entire population. My parents (happen to be old - I know shocking right) understand the risk and are very careful. They minimize their risk, take precautions, recognize their responsibilities and understand what is taking place. They are considered HIGH RISK but they DONT complain about young whipper snappers playing sports, or not being safe, or going out, etc. They donāt believe we should shut down everything or completely change and/or ruin our lives. They donāt agree with the decisions that are destroying the lives of so many. They understand they are HIGH RISK and they need to take extra precautions to be safe. So we should stop with the old people cop out comments. I happen to know a lot of old people and none of them think we should shut down. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Sept 16, 2020 7:08:06 GMT -8
Concur. These old people are just a drag on society anyway. We should just start shipping them off to live on the same farm your parents sent your aging dog to live when your were a kid. This just reminded me of that move Dumb and Dumber when Jim Carrey is talking to that old lady. I just started laughing and thinking of that when I read your post. Besides, no need to send them to a farm when we can just send them to a home or COVID incubator. In all seriousness, we need to stop making this about the entire population. My parents (happen to be old - I know shocking right) understand the risk and are very careful. They minimize their risk, take precautions, recognize their responsibilities and understand what is taking place. They are considered HIGH RISK but they DONT complain about young whipper snappers playing sports, or not being safe, or going out, etc. They donāt believe we should shut down everything or completely change And/or ruin our lives. They donāt agree with the decisions that are destroying the lives of so many. They understand they are HIGH RISK and they need to take extra precautions to be safe. So we should stop with the old people cop out comments. I happen to know a lot of old people and none of them think we should shut down. Geezus. You guys are missing the point. It's not JUST OLD PEOPLE. Those at risk include pretty much anyone over 50 (probably about 75% of this board) and those with underlying conditions. Unfortunately, fully half of America is has an underlying condition. We're a very unhealthy people. ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.") I saw a fistfight almost break out on the Coronado Ferry last weekend when the captain came on the loudspeaker and asked some passengers to please put on their masks. They refused. As they got off the boat, the captain again asked the group to put their masks on until they left the dock. They started yelling at the captain and claiming there was no such thing as COVID and that people who wore masks were dupes and idiots. It was shocking. When someone told them to quit behaving like hysterical little girls, a couple of guys in the group rushed a couple, fists raised, called them "dirty liberal Democrats, and wanted to throw down. Seriously. The problem was, the group was walking around with half-full bloody Mary's they'd been drinking. All were fat. And all were over about 45. Prime COVID candidates. My point is that many of the people yapping about lockdowns and the fascism of masks are those who are at higher risk. If/when I ever remind them of this, they get all butthurt. I'm sure when they look in the mirror, they see someone 20 years younger and 60 lbs. lighter. Sheesh. As for lockdowns, no one wants that. We need instead to do what successful countries like Taiwan have done to curb COVID spread. They have an intensive tracing and quarantine protocol for individuals. If you have COVID or have had significant exposure to someone who has been diagnosed, you are sent to a hotel for 14 days, where you're fed and monitored. Once the danger has passed, you're let back out into the wild, free to roam. This puts an intensive burden on the small population of infected and exposed, but enables the rest of society to continue functioning at a near-normal level. In Taiwan, schools, restaurants, business, and sporting events are operating at nearly pre-pandemic levels. The country has a population about the size of California, but has had about 500 cases and 7 deaths. California, by contrast, has had about 775k cases and is nearing 15k deaths. If we can begin instituting similar protocols, we, too, can once again have nice things like football, basketball, etc. But twisting yourself into knots trying to rationalize the sh*tshow we've found ourselves mired in, isn't helpful. |
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Post by Frantic on Sept 16, 2020 7:33:24 GMT -8
They can't seriously shut down businesses again, and I don't think they're dumb enough to do so. The state of California would almost threaten to vote red if they keep this BS up IMO (sort of tongue-and-cheek). There's going to be a revolution among businesses at some point and I don't think its too far away The business revolt is starting. Last night KUSI did a piece on Cowboy Star's decision to stay open regardless of what Newsome or Wooten say. www.kusi.com/cowboy-star-restaurant-will-defy-state-closure-orders-if-county-is-forced-back-into-tier-1/ |
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Post by Lloyd on Sept 16, 2020 10:09:59 GMT -8
6,000 hospital beds in SD, only 200 + occupied with COVID patients... And nobody knows how many of the local "COVID" patients are in the hospital primarily for COVID, and how many are there mainly for other diseases they might have. The County has made a request to the state to not count the SDSU positives in the area count. Seems fair. And SDSU wants to test all students who live on campus. Think what that will do to our numbers? |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Sept 16, 2020 11:20:00 GMT -8
6,000 hospital beds in SD, only 200 + occupied with COVID patients... And nobody knows how many of the local "COVID" patients are in the hospital primarily for COVID, and how many are there mainly for other diseases they might have. The County has made a request to the state to not count the SDSU positives in the area count. Seems fair. And SDSU wants to test all students who live on campus. Think what that will do to our numbers? From what I understand, the effort to omit SDSU positives is from both ends. No one wants to shut San Diego back down for college kids who aren't using the hospitals. The problem is that Gavin Newsom's executive order is concrete and no one wants to admit they didn't think it through. If San Diego shuts down due to college kids with sniffles and empty hospitals, Gavin knows he's going to look terrible. Half of all Americans on unemployment right now are in California. Businesses are already fleeing. Gavin's hand-picked head of the California Health and Human Services, Dr Mark Ghaly, is trying to come up with some BS technicality. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Sept 16, 2020 11:27:29 GMT -8
And nobody knows how many of the local "COVID" patients are in the hospital primarily for COVID, and how many are there mainly for other diseases they might have. The County has made a request to the state to not count the SDSU positives in the area count. Seems fair. And SDSU wants to test all students who live on campus. Think what that will do to our numbers? From what I understand, the effort to omit SDSU positives is from both ends. No one wants to shut San Diego back down for college kids who aren't using the hospitals. The problem is that Gavin Newsom's executive order is concrete and no one wants to admit they didn't think it through. If San Diego shuts down due to college kids with sniffles and empty hospitals, Gavin knows he's going to look terrible. Half of all Americans on unemployment right now are in California. Businesses are already fleeing. Gavin's hand-picked head of the California Health and Human Services, Dr Mark Ghaly, is trying to come up with some BS technicality. I know, right. Sniffles!!! Q told me that of the 195k Dead Americans, fewer than 10k were PURE COVID DEATHS. The other 185k? They sneezed their heads off from the sniffles. I also heard that Gavin's father planned the assassination of JFK. |
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Post by AzTex on Sept 16, 2020 12:25:25 GMT -8
6,000 hospital beds in SD, only 200 + occupied with COVID patients... And nobody knows how many of the local "COVID" patients are in the hospital primarily for COVID, and how many are there mainly for other diseases they might have. The County has made a request to the state to not count the SDSU positives in the area count. Seems fair. And SDSU wants to test all students who live on campus. Think what that will do to our numbers? Newsome said NO.
More tests == more cases. That's why I don't think it's fair to close down businesses based on the number of new cases. Percentage of positives is a reasonable basis to use.
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