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Post by longtimebooster on Sept 11, 2020 9:46:56 GMT -8
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Sept 11, 2020 9:54:19 GMT -8
Fire Hoke!
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Post by hoobs on Sept 11, 2020 9:56:08 GMT -8
Still need the statistic to be "cases per number of emrolled students" otherwise it's the same mistake as comparing California to Alabama at the state level in terms of "number of cases".
However, even factoring for that, SDSU still not looking good.
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Post by jp92grad on Sept 11, 2020 9:58:37 GMT -8
Has anybody talked to Chuck Norris about how to beat this?
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Post by aztecfan1 on Sept 11, 2020 10:31:54 GMT -8
More to the point, of how many positive tests are those People actually sick? We’ll never know and to me that huge variable would be so revealing. But it’s also subjective. Example, Jack Nicklaus and his wife revealed that they both tested positive and she had no symptoms, he had a mild sore throat for a week.
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Post by longtimebooster on Sept 11, 2020 11:17:51 GMT -8
More to the point, of how many positive tests are those People actually sick? We’ll never know and to me that huge variable would be so revealing. But it’s also subjective. Example, Jack Nicklaus and his wife revealed that they both tested positive and she had no symptoms, he had a mild sore throat for a week. I know. And it has been proven that of the 195k dead Americans from COVID, 184k accidentally sneezed their heads off, thus, aren't really COVID deaths. In all seriousness, you can bet there are probably 3x to 5x more COVID cases running around SDSU who are flying under the radar. As for Jack Nicklaus's wife, my brother almost died from COVID in early March. His wife was mildly ill for two days and lost her sense of taste and smell. His two teenage daughters felt fine, but lost their sense of taste and smell for two weeks.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 11, 2020 11:28:47 GMT -8
Disappointing & unfortunate. Be curious to know the actual #'s tested, or the % positive? Didn't I read SDSU wanted to test every single student? 444 out of all 12k (or whatever it is on campus right now) is different than 167 of 3000 tested, etc. There may be a lot of students without symptoms at many schools who never bother to get tested, whereas a high % of students at another school got tested. I don't think it's a surprise that kids coming back to a playground so to speak would yield a high # of positives. That was bound to happen. What's really disappointing is their #'s could impact how SD is treated as a whole, re: opening up.
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Post by longtimebooster on Sept 11, 2020 11:37:47 GMT -8
What's really disappointing is their #'s could impact how SD is treated as a whole, re: opening up. 25% of all new COVID cases in San Diego County can be attributed to SDSU. www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-09-10/covid-cases-increase-at-sdsu-countywide"Local public health officials reported 284 new cases among San Diego County residents, including another 69 at SDSU, bringing the county’s total to 41,608. SDSU has a total of 509 confirmed cases among students, with another four considered probable cases. The 69 new cases at the school reported Thursday shows the virus may be continuing to spread rapidly, as the school reported 44 new cases one day earlier."
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Post by AzTex on Sept 11, 2020 12:12:24 GMT -8
Disappointing & unfortunate. Be curious to know the actual #'s tested, or the % positive? Didn't I read SDSU wanted to test every single student? 444 out of all 12k (or whatever it is on campus right now) is different than 167 of 3000 tested, etc. There may be a lot of students without symptoms at many schools who never bother to get tested, whereas a high % of students at another school got tested. I don't think it's a surprise that kids coming back to a playground so to speak would yield a high # of positives. That was bound to happen. What's really disappointing is their #'s could impact how SD is treated as a whole, re: opening up. I was going to post something similar. Unfortunately even if the kids caught Covid at their homes spread around the country, it counts as a San Diego County case. Very likely to cause restaurants and other business who were recently allowed to partly open to be forced to close again. The costs of starting, stopping and starting again will likely prove too costly for many small businesses to survive.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 11, 2020 13:20:09 GMT -8
Disappointing & unfortunate. Be curious to know the actual #'s tested, or the % positive? Didn't I read SDSU wanted to test every single student? 444 out of all 12k (or whatever it is on campus right now) is different than 167 of 3000 tested, etc. There may be a lot of students without symptoms at many schools who never bother to get tested, whereas a high % of students at another school got tested. I don't think it's a surprise that kids coming back to a playground so to speak would yield a high # of positives. That was bound to happen. What's really disappointing is their #'s could impact how SD is treated as a whole, re: opening up. Yes, how many have actually been tested? Plus how many results have been false positive results, or the person is asymptomatic?
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Post by aardvark on Sept 11, 2020 13:48:12 GMT -8
More to the point, of how many positive tests are those People actually sick? We’ll never know and to me that huge variable would be so revealing. But it’s also subjective. Example, Jack Nicklaus and his wife revealed that they both tested positive and she had no symptoms, he had a mild sore throat for a week. I know. And it has been proven that of the 195k dead Americans from COVID, 184k accidentally sneezed their heads off, thus, aren't really COVID deaths. In all seriousness, you can bet there are probably 3x to 5x more COVID cases running around SDSU who are flying under the radar. As for Jack Nicklaus's wife, my brother almost died from COVID in early March. His wife was mildly ill for two days and lost her sense of taste and smell. His two teenage daughters felt fine, but lost their sense of taste and smell for two weeks. My cousin caught Covid in July. He also turned 80 around the same time. Fortunately, he had mild symptoms and recovered quickly, and his wife never caught it. Regarding the possibility of more cases "running around SDSU", how many more unconfirmed cases have their been in this country since March? Or even just in San Diego County? There have been over 6 million confirmed cases nationwide, according to the CDC. But there have been estimates that the actual number of cases could be as much as 10 times more than the confirmed number of cases.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 11, 2020 15:19:45 GMT -8
I know. And it has been proven that of the 195k dead Americans from COVID, 184k accidentally sneezed their heads off, thus, aren't really COVID deaths. In all seriousness, you can bet there are probably 3x to 5x more COVID cases running around SDSU who are flying under the radar. As for Jack Nicklaus's wife, my brother almost died from COVID in early March. His wife was mildly ill for two days and lost her sense of taste and smell. His two teenage daughters felt fine, but lost their sense of taste and smell for two weeks. My cousin caught Covid in July. He also turned 80 around the same time. Fortunately, he had mild symptoms and recovered quickly, and his wife never caught it. Regarding the possibility of more cases "running around SDSU", how many more unconfirmed cases have their been in this country since March? Or even just in San Diego County? There have been over 6 million confirmed cases nationwide, according to the CDC. But there have been estimates that the actual number of cases could be as much as 10 times more than the confirmed number of cases. Very true plus quick & readily available testing mean a huge increase in testing therfore an increase in actual confirmed cases. I am 99% sure Covid passed through my household and several people in my office had an odd flu it back in early February. About that same time a mysterious illness was spreading that was deemed to be caused by vaping. None of the cases or hospitalizations before March have been documented or studied.
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Post by Lloyd on Sept 12, 2020 7:24:48 GMT -8
More to the point, of how many positive tests are those People actually sick? We’ll never know and to me that huge variable would be so revealing. But it’s also subjective. Example, Jack Nicklaus and his wife revealed that they both tested positive and she had no symptoms, he had a mild sore throat for a week. . The PCR tests are reportedly giving some false positives. My 89 year old aunt is in a nursing home in Spokane with about 100 patients. None had COVID as of a month ago. Then all of a sudden they had 12 positives there, (7 patients and 5 staff), including my aunt. All 12 were quarantined. Two weeks later, and none of the 12 had any symptoms at all, but my aunt then tested positive again. Now another two weeks have gone by, and my aunt is still fine with no symptoms. I don't know how many have been following the daily case count versus the number of hospitalizations in the UT, (I have the on-line edition). In July in San Diego County, the number of new cases double and tripled from April / May, yet the number of COVID hospitalizations in the County have dropped to less than 300 now, down from more than 500 in July. How many of the less than 300 COVID patients now in area hospitals are there primarily from COVID, and how many are in the hospital mainly for other reasons, but have tested positive? Nobody seems to know. Two area doctors I have talked to in the last 3 weeks told me that COVID is mainly political at this time, (one was my internist at Scripps Clinic, and another was one I visited with for work reasons.)
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Post by aztec00 on Sept 12, 2020 11:10:16 GMT -8
The PCR tests are reportedly giving some false positives. My 89 year old aunt is in a nursing home in Spokane with about 100 patients. None had COVID as of a month ago. I Then all of a sudden they had 12 positives there, (7 patients and 5 staff), including my aunt. All 12 were quarantined. Two weeks later, and none of the 12 had any symptoms at all, but my aunt then tested positive again. Now another two weeks have gone by, and my aunt is still fine with no symptoms. I don't know how many have been following the daily case count versus the number of hospitalizations in the UT, (I have the on-line edition). In July in San Diego County, the number of new cases double and tripled from April / May, yet the number of COVID hospitalizations in the County have dropped to less than 300 now, down from more than 500 in July. How many of the less than 300 COVID patients now in area hospitals are there primarily from COVID, and how many are in the hospital mainly for other reasons, but have tested positive? Nobody seems to know. Two area doctors I have talked to in the last 3 weeks told me that COVID is mainly political at this time, (one was my internist at Scripps Clinic, and another was one I visited with for work reasons.) You mean politicians and slanted media would inflate a crisis for political gain? Say it ain’t so!
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Sept 12, 2020 13:11:35 GMT -8
Regardless of the percentages, the California State University system used SDSU's case numbers to justify closing all CSU schools to in-person learning this school year. Before SDSU hit the 400 mark it was only the Fall semester that was remote. The CSU Chancellor formally announced Spring 2021 will also be remote a couple days ago. www.mercurynews.com/2020/09/10/coronavirus-cal-state-will-continue-virtual-learning-for-spring-2021/I feel bad for the High School class of 2020. No Prom. No Graduation. Pay full rate for college and experience it through a laptop screen.
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Post by tonatiuh on Sept 12, 2020 15:28:54 GMT -8
More to the point, of how many positive tests are those People actually sick? We’ll never know and to me that huge variable would be so revealing. But it’s also subjective. Example, Jack Nicklaus and his wife revealed that they both tested positive and she had no symptoms, he had a mild sore throat for a week. I know. And it has been proven that of the 195k dead Americans from COVID, 184k accidentally sneezed their heads off, thus, aren't really COVID deaths. In all seriousness, you can bet there are probably 3x to 5x more COVID cases running around SDSU who are flying under the radar. As for Jack Nicklaus's wife, my brother almost died from COVID in early March. His wife was mildly ill for two days and lost her sense of taste and smell. His two teenage daughters felt fine, but lost their sense of taste and smell for two weeks. Can you be anymore hysterical? Or do you work for Gov. Newsome? As your own statement confirms the virus effects all people differently. Some have different symptoms that may make them more ill, and others not too much and they get thru it better. Like I have said a number of times the real number you should be asking for is not the total number of cases, but the number of people who die compared to those who survive. The real difference is the survival rate which is very high indeed. (despite what the news media is telling you!)
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Post by AzTex on Sept 12, 2020 21:05:53 GMT -8
My cousin caught Covid in July. He also turned 80 around the same time. Fortunately, he had mild symptoms and recovered quickly, and his wife never caught it. Regarding the possibility of more cases "running around SDSU", how many more unconfirmed cases have their been in this country since March? Or even just in San Diego County? There have been over 6 million confirmed cases nationwide, according to the CDC. But there have been estimates that the actual number of cases could be as much as 10 times more than the confirmed number of cases. Very true plus quick & readily available testing mean a huge increase in testing therfore an increase in actual confirmed cases.
I am 99% sure Covid passed through my household and several people in my office had an odd flu it back in early February. About that same time a mysterious illness was spreading that was deemed to be caused by vaping. None of the cases or hospitalizations before March have been documented or studied. That's one of the big problems with the metrics being used to determine what business are allowed to open and what restrictions the will have. The State is using new cases per 100,000 population. If there are no2 5 new cases per 100,000 then when your double testing you'll get 10 cases per 100,000 with no change in the real infection rate. But lots of business will have to shut down only because there is more testing being done.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 13, 2020 9:00:39 GMT -8
Very true plus quick & readily available testing mean a huge increase in testing therfore an increase in actual confirmed cases.
I am 99% sure Covid passed through my household and several people in my office had an odd flu it back in early February. About that same time a mysterious illness was spreading that was deemed to be caused by vaping. None of the cases or hospitalizations before March have been documented or studied. That's one of the big problems with the metrics being used to determine what business are allowed to open and what restrictions the will have. The State is using new cases per 100,000 population. If there are no2 5 new cases per 100,000 then when your double testing you'll get 10 cases per 100,000 with no change in the real infection rate. But lots of business will have to shut down only because there is more testing being done. Plus a larger percentage of people are typically getting tested only if they have symptoms, so that raises the confirmed case numbers per 100,000. As we get into the flu season even more people will get tested out of fear they have COVID. Then there are the false positive results. Even if a test is 98% accurate, again with flu season more people getting tested means more false positive tests.
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Post by Aztec Empire on Sept 14, 2020 0:23:04 GMT -8
My cousin caught Covid in July. He also turned 80 around the same time. Fortunately, he had mild symptoms and recovered quickly, and his wife never caught it. Regarding the possibility of more cases "running around SDSU", how many more unconfirmed cases have their been in this country since March? Or even just in San Diego County? There have been over 6 million confirmed cases nationwide, according to the CDC. But there have been estimates that the actual number of cases could be as much as 10 times more than the confirmed number of cases. Very true plus quick & readily available testing mean a huge increase in testing therfore an increase in actual confirmed cases. I am 99% sure Covid passed through my household and several people in my office had an odd flu it back in early February. About that same time a mysterious illness was spreading that was deemed to be caused by vaping. None of the cases or hospitalizations before March have been documented or studied. Same exact thing happened to my friend group in December. It lasted through Feb. I think there’s a lot of truth to the idea that it was here earlier than known.
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Post by junior on Sept 14, 2020 11:44:11 GMT -8
Happy to be working off-campus this semester. Can't wait for next fall. Now that it's certain that we won't be back until then - or who knows when… it's time to start fixing up the home office.
Hey, where's my FB and BB refund!?!? That might just about cover the fix up job!
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