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Post by aztecryan on Aug 28, 2020 8:16:22 GMT -8
Paddack pitched better under the tutelage of Darren Balsley, who knew him best. There ain't much time left to fix Paddack and the bullpen in this very short season. Do you wanna win, Padres? He's 24.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 28, 2020 8:17:09 GMT -8
Things happen with second year pitchers. Regression on its own, which was inevitable with Paddack's numbers, plus extraneous factors with the season, the ball, etc. You'd have to go above Rothschild anyway. Arm angle is huge for a pitchers mechanics. Hopefully Rothschild can fix it, or have him go back to the old Paddack if he's messing with it. I haven't seen Paddack pitch much this season, so I'm only going by your observastion. I'll try to watch him pitch next time and make my own observation. Friend of mine put this together. It's subtle, but you can clearly see it.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 28, 2020 8:47:04 GMT -8
Arm angle is huge for a pitchers mechanics. Hopefully Rothschild can fix it, or have him go back to the old Paddack if he's messing with it. I haven't seen Paddack pitch much this season, so I'm only going by your observastion. I'll try to watch him pitch next time and make my own observation. Friend of mine put this together. It's subtle, but you can clearly see it. Yep, even just a little tweak can be all the difference. Hopefully he can find his release point quickly.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 28, 2020 8:52:36 GMT -8
Friend of mine put this together. It's subtle, but you can clearly see it. Yep, even just a little tweak can be all the difference. Hopefully he can find his release point quickly. His fastball has significantly less vertical movement (as you can clearly see with the trajectory of that pitch) - The ball stays in the zone longer as a result of the spin axis being changed. Pinpointing the exact cause isn't easy, but the Padres have an entire department of people who chart these things.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 28, 2020 11:06:48 GMT -8
Yep, even just a little tweak can be all the difference. Hopefully he can find his release point quickly. His fastball has significantly less vertical movement (as you can clearly see with the trajectory of that pitch) - The ball stays in the zone longer as a result of the spin axis being changed. Pinpointing the exact cause isn't easy, but the Padres have an entire department of people who chart these things. I'm aware that they have a department for this. Figure it out ASAP. A good pitching coach can spot the issue right away, such as a Darren Balsley. Paddack has to be a willing participant as well.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 28, 2020 11:14:57 GMT -8
His fastball has significantly less vertical movement (as you can clearly see with the trajectory of that pitch) - The ball stays in the zone longer as a result of the spin axis being changed. Pinpointing the exact cause isn't easy, but the Padres have an entire department of people who chart these things. I'm aware that they have a department for this. Figure it out ASAP. A good pitching coach can spot the issue right away, such as a Darren Balsley. Paddack has to be a willing participant as well. Rothschild is a good pitching coach.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 28, 2020 11:16:30 GMT -8
I'm aware that they have a department for this. Figure it out ASAP. A good pitching coach can spot the issue right away, such as a Darren Balsley. Paddack has to be a willing participant as well. Rothschild is a good pitching coach. We'll see. Not enough sample size with this particular team. I hope so.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 28, 2020 11:21:10 GMT -8
Rothschild is a good pitching coach. We'll see. Not enough sample size with this particular team. I hope so. His sample size dates back multiple decades. Has nothing to do with the Padres whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 11:53:45 GMT -8
Rothschild has a long and accomplished career going back years and years. He's not the problem.
Pomeranz, Strahm, Lamet, Quantrill, Davies, Pierce Johnson......these guys are all throwing the ball well. Patino is rebounding nicely, Perdomo only has allowed one hit in his last 4 IP.
Not going to hold the guys feet to the fire because a second year 24-year old, a recently converted shortstop, and an injured closer struggled/are struggling.
I will say that last Garrett Richards start hurt my fantasy team pretty badly! (LOL)
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 28, 2020 12:16:47 GMT -8
Rothschild has a long and accomplished career going back years and years. He's not the problem. Pomeranz, Strahm, Lamet, Quantrill, Davies, Pierce Johnson......these guys are all throwing the ball well. Patino is rebounding nicely, Perdomo only has allowed one hit in his last 4 IP. Not going to hold the guys feet to the fire because a second year 24-year old, a recently converted shortstop, and an injured closer struggled/are struggling. I will say that last Garrett Richards start hurt my fantasy team pretty badly! (LOL) You mean Garrett's last two starts. If Rothschild can't get through to Paddack, then they both have to work it out. You didn't mention the bullpen as a whole. They've been underwhelming so far. I don't know what goes on behind closed doors, but it needs to be fixed. Balsley was a master at dissecting mechanical issues. Hopefully that's a strength of Rothschilds as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 17:19:20 GMT -8
I liked Balsley a bit too, but to read some of the posts on this board about him as a pitching coach you would think the Padres had a 1995 Atl Braves pitching staff success.
Padres staff ERA the last 4 years, going back from 2019 to 2016:
4.61 (18th overall)
4.40 (21st)
4.67 (21st)
4.42 (23rd)
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 28, 2020 17:34:10 GMT -8
I liked Balsley a bit too, but to read some of the posts on this board about him as a pitching coach you would think the Padres had a 1995 Atl Braves pitching staff success. Padres staff ERA the last 4 years, going back from 2019 to 2016: 4.61 (18th overall) 4.40 (21st) 4.67 (21st) 4.42 (23rd) His success is mostly tied to relievers turning careers around.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 28, 2020 18:05:34 GMT -8
I liked Balsley a bit too, but to read some of the posts on this board about him as a pitching coach you would think the Padres had a 1995 Atl Braves pitching staff success. Padres staff ERA the last 4 years, going back from 2019 to 2016: 4.61 (18th overall) 4.40 (21st) 4.67 (21st) 4.42 (23rd) That's a little overboard, but he didn't hold this job for 16 years because he was the owners son. He was VERY valuable and the organization knew it.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 29, 2020 3:15:33 GMT -8
The league now has a book on Paddack and knows what to expect. That combined with his fastball command being a little off means he is going to have some rough outings.
Bringing in Balsley is not an option. It’s up to CP and Rothschild to make adjustments and fix the mechanics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 7:27:17 GMT -8
I liked Balsley a bit too, but to read some of the posts on this board about him as a pitching coach you would think the Padres had a 1995 Atl Braves pitching staff success. Padres staff ERA the last 4 years, going back from 2019 to 2016: 4.61 (18th overall) 4.40 (21st) 4.67 (21st) 4.42 (23rd) That's a little overboard, but he didn't hold this job for 16 years because he was the owners son. He was VERY valuable and the organization knew it. As I said, I liked the guy. Doesn't mean the stats posted are wrong. There are stats, facts...and then there are some peoples opinions.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 29, 2020 8:42:37 GMT -8
That's a little overboard, but he didn't hold this job for 16 years because he was the owners son. He was VERY valuable and the organization knew it. As I said, I liked the guy. Doesn't mean the stats posted are wrong. There are stats, facts...and then there are some peoples opinions. Many factors can go into that, youth being a huge factor, etc... It's a big deal when you have an MLB team wanting you to stick around for 16 years. Enough said right there. They knew what they had. That says it all. He was also very good at developing players as well. I'm hoping Rothschild can get Paddack going and I hope Paddack is receptive to him. Balsley and Paddack had a very good relationship.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 29, 2020 8:46:04 GMT -8
As I said, I liked the guy. Doesn't mean the stats posted are wrong. There are stats, facts...and then there are some peoples opinions. Many factors can go into that, youth being a huge factor, etc... It's a big deal when you have an MLB team wanting you to stick around for 16 years. Enough said right there. They knew what they had. That says it all. He was also very good at developing players as well. I'm hoping Rothschild can get Paddack going and I hope Paddack is receptive to him. Balsley and Paddack had a very good relationship. They worked together for all of 140 innings. The message was getting stale in the organization as the game evolves to more data-driven technology. Pitch labs, biomechanics, spin efficiency, etc. Being tenured is great, but it just means sometimes the game passes you by.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 29, 2020 10:34:34 GMT -8
Many factors can go into that, youth being a huge factor, etc... It's a big deal when you have an MLB team wanting you to stick around for 16 years. Enough said right there. They knew what they had. That says it all. He was also very good at developing players as well. I'm hoping Rothschild can get Paddack going and I hope Paddack is receptive to him. Balsley and Paddack had a very good relationship. They worked together for all of 140 innings. The message was getting stale in the organization as the game evolves to more data-driven technology. Pitch labs, biomechanics, spin efficiency, etc. Being tenured is great, but it just means sometimes the game passes you by. It's not just the innings. It's not the whole story. It's the work Balsley would do with pitchers in the minors and off hours as well. You should know that. The amount of innings is not everything and they had/have a great relationship. I know Balsley pretty well, so I've heard first hand. I do agree with you that messages can go stale and they may have happened for some. It's amazing his message was clear and well taken for sooooo many years. Kudos to him.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 29, 2020 10:36:37 GMT -8
They worked together for all of 140 innings. The message was getting stale in the organization as the game evolves to more data-driven technology. Pitch labs, biomechanics, spin efficiency, etc. Being tenured is great, but it just means sometimes the game passes you by. It's not just the innings. It's not the whole story. It's the work Balsley would do with pitchers in the minors and off hours as well. You should know that. The amount of innings is not everything and they had/have a great relationship. I know Balsley pretty well, so I've heard first hand. Balsley didn't do a ton of work with the minors.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 29, 2020 10:40:38 GMT -8
It's not just the innings. It's not the whole story. It's the work Balsley would do with pitchers in the minors and off hours as well. You should know that. The amount of innings is not everything and they had/have a great relationship. I know Balsley pretty well, so I've heard first hand. Balsley didn't do a ton of work with the minors. I didn't say a ton, but I do know he was involved and cared. Pitchers listened to him, and really respected him. Bottom line is they had a very good relationship and Balsley is credited heavily with his development.
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