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Post by namssa on Aug 3, 2020 14:46:53 GMT -8
They are saying over 400 players have now signed onto this. That is a lot of players.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 3, 2020 15:13:32 GMT -8
Because of Title IX, I wonder if the PAC12 school revoked the scholarships of the striking athletes if they'd also be forced to revoke the scholarships of 400 female athlete who had nothing to do with the pledge.
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Post by AzTex on Aug 3, 2020 16:14:02 GMT -8
As someone with an accounting background I always wonder when someone talks revenue or income if they are referring to gross or net. BIG difference. No business and have their gross cut in half without corresponding cuts in expenses. I don't know how these athletes will like bus transportation and tents for away games.
If they're talking net revenue/income then there won't be much, if any, to share in all but a very few programs.
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Post by DeeMoney on Aug 3, 2020 16:35:47 GMT -8
Because of Title IX, I wonder if the PAC12 school revoked the scholarships of the striking athletes if they'd also be forced to revoke the scholarships of 400 female athlete who had nothing to do with the pledge. I believe as long as they field a team and have equal numbers of men and women, then they could just transfer the scholarship money to other sports which were offering partial men's scholarships (ie baseball). I thought the rule was that scholarship dollars needed to be equal, but I could be wrong. If the 400 do get all their requests though, including 50% of gross revenues, you would kill a lot of women's sports.
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Post by hoobs on Aug 3, 2020 16:39:04 GMT -8
Because of Title IX, I wonder if the PAC12 school revoked the scholarships of the striking athletes if they'd also be forced to revoke the scholarships of 400 female athlete who had nothing to do with the pledge. No... that's not how Title IX works...
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Post by hoobs on Aug 3, 2020 16:46:17 GMT -8
Because of Title IX, I wonder if the PAC12 school revoked the scholarships of the striking athletes if they'd also be forced to revoke the scholarships of 400 female athlete who had nothing to do with the pledge. I believe as long as they field a team and have equal numbers of men and women, then they could just transfer the scholarship money to other sports which were offering partial men's scholarships (ie baseball). I thought the rule was that scholarship dollars needed to be equal, but I could be wrong. If the 400 do get all their requests though, including 50% of gross revenues, you would kill a lot of women's sports. Yes, I'm fairly certain the issue is dollars need to be equal. So they'd kill an equal number of men's and women's sports (by scholarship dollars, not number of sports themselves).
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 3, 2020 17:34:39 GMT -8
Because of Title IX, I wonder if the PAC12 school revoked the scholarships of the striking athletes if they'd also be forced to revoke the scholarships of 400 female athlete who had nothing to do with the pledge. Nobody is having their scholarships revoked this year. If they choose to boycott next year then they could lose their scholarships but schools would need to recruit over them, and would probably need a waiver to exceed the 25 maximum recruiting size. Doubt it comes to that because I really doubt 400 players would boycott if all their needs aren't met. I think they just want to make noise while the iron is hot, and if they get 1-2 concessions re: racial equality & health & safety players would have a hard time justifying not staying.
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Post by AzTex on Aug 3, 2020 21:00:51 GMT -8
Because of Title IX, I wonder if the PAC12 school revoked the scholarships of the striking athletes if they'd also be forced to revoke the scholarships of 400 female athlete who had nothing to do with the pledge. I believe as long as they field a team and have equal numbers of men and women, then they could just transfer the scholarship money to other sports which were offering partial men's scholarships (ie baseball). I thought the rule was that scholarship dollars needed to be equal, but I could be wrong. If the 400 do get all their requests though, including 50% of gross revenues, you would kill a lot of women's sports. 50% of gross revenues would kill pretty much all athletic programs.
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Post by hoobs on Aug 5, 2020 9:54:23 GMT -8
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 5, 2020 10:35:56 GMT -8
It is worth noting that the Big Ten players are not threatening to strike like the PAC-12, nor are they asking for revenue sharing.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 5, 2020 11:03:58 GMT -8
It is worth noting that the Big Ten players are not threatening to strike like the PAC-12, nor are they asking for revenue sharing. Or extended eligibility. Theirs are more health-related, although some of their asks may be stretching the dollar considerably. But much more reasonable than the P12's.
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Post by aztecdan8 on Aug 5, 2020 18:45:26 GMT -8
Sounds like the junior version of the LA County Teachers Association demands. At least this is applicable to their situation, but 50% revenue share?
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Post by aztecdan8 on Aug 5, 2020 18:53:14 GMT -8
Many of the demands centered around COVID-19 safety. Zeigler was a COVID-hoaxer from the start so take any of his opinions about the pandemic with a major grain of salt. Did you even read the article? Clearly you have some sort of unrelated issue with Ziegler, yet bringing your agenda into play. Typical
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Post by aztecdan8 on Aug 5, 2020 18:55:52 GMT -8
Because of Title IX, I wonder if the PAC12 school revoked the scholarships of the striking athletes if they'd also be forced to revoke the scholarships of 400 female athlete who had nothing to do with the pledge. Nobody is having their scholarships revoked this year. If they choose to boycott next year then they could lose their scholarships but schools would need to recruit over them, and would probably need a waiver to exceed the 25 maximum recruiting size. Doubt it comes to that because I really doubt 400 players would boycott if all their needs aren't met. I think they just want to make noise while the iron is hot, and if they get 1-2 concessions re: racial equality & health & safety players would have a hard time justifying not staying. No one is forcing them to play. Football and basketball players at most D1s are treated very well. There are issues and rules that should be addressed and corrected/improved. Try being a walk on. They get nothing from the school.
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Post by aztecking on Aug 5, 2020 19:10:04 GMT -8
Many of the demands centered around COVID-19 safety. Zeigler was a COVID-hoaxer from the start so take any of his opinions about the pandemic with a major grain of salt. Did you even read the article? Clearly you have some sort of unrelated issue with Ziegler, yet bringing your agenda into play. Typical You know me so well...I know for a fact that their demands were financial as well as pandemic safety related. Zeigler has some extremist views on coronavirus. How is that unrelated?
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Aug 6, 2020 5:51:25 GMT -8
Did you even read the article? Clearly you have some sort of unrelated issue with Ziegler, yet bringing your agenda into play. Typical You know me so well...I know for a fact that their demands were financial as well as pandemic safety related. Zeigler has some extremist views on coronavirus. How is that unrelated? 🍿🍿🍿
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