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Post by uwphoto on Jul 24, 2020 11:08:24 GMT -8
"Negative Prism" of acadamia...like the Earth is more than 5,000 years old? Conspiracy theories up, moon landing deniers up, flat earthers up, QAnon, Betsy Devos, in a short three years. "I love the uneducated". Weak. Try again. The clueless leftist clown leadership and direction in Academia was noticeable but avoidable in my day but apparently you haven't had kids that have gone to college in recent years. Trump never had a filibuster proof Senate, so everything he has done in legislation is Democrat backed. He only had the House for two years and most of those were bedeviled by the Russia Hoax (By the way, weren't you supposed to regale us with the real facts of that "collusion"?). Biden, Pelosi, Schumer have held power in DC for decade after decade and it is now all Trumps fault! "I Love the uneducated." ps, you must have been one of those bummed out kids who never fit in and were never invited to the party. I (and every friend I had) loved their time at SDSU and became successful..despite the "leftist" made up bull$#!+ you apparently saw.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 24, 2020 11:29:08 GMT -8
Weak. Try again. The clueless leftist clown leadership and direction in Academia was noticeable but avoidable in my day but apparently you haven't had kids that have gone to college in recent years. Trump never had a filibuster proof Senate, so everything he has done in legislation is Democrat backed. He only had the House for two years and most of those were bedeviled by the Russia Hoax (By the way, weren't you supposed to regale us with the real facts of that "collusion"?). Biden, Pelosi, Schumer have held power in DC for decade after decade and it is now all Trumps fault! "I Love the uneducated." ps, you must have been one of those bummed out kids who never fit in and were never invited to the party. I (and every friend I had) loved their time at SDSU and became successful..despite the "leftist" made up bull$#!+ you apparently saw. Oh the rapier wit . Like I said, noticed and avoided it without issue. Not the same as in the grievance factories they have become now days. www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/victimhood-culture-has-overtaken-college-campuses%3f_amp=trueAnd have you seen the "Jay Walking" all-stars the public schools and colleges are trying to give us now? Oh yes, I forgot, its all Trump's fault. I love the uneducated.
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Post by azson on Jul 24, 2020 16:20:11 GMT -8
know what gets millions of hits in America? That's right, QAnon, Bill Gates wants to embed a chip in everyone and Dr. Fauchi and Bill Gates released the coronavirus on purpose so they could make money. There is a big difference between people voluntarily taking in propaganda that is freely available, and the State mandating citizens to take in State sanctioned propaganda. There is a separation of church and state for a reason. [CUT TO: Trump in front of St. Johns holding bible]
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 24, 2020 16:28:43 GMT -8
There is a big difference between people voluntarily taking in propaganda that is freely available, and the State mandating citizens to take in State sanctioned propaganda. There is a separation of church and state for a reason. [CUT TO: Trump in front of St. Johns holding bible] It burns! It burns!
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Post by DeeMoney on Jul 24, 2020 17:35:34 GMT -8
Well, my own personal opinion is we are f****d in the long term, and perhaps the short term. As you know, every society in history has had a beginning, a middle and an end. We are obviously on the backside of our history. The signs are everywhere, you have your examples, I have mine, but the manifestation is shocking and increasing. I beleive that the confluence of Covid and the carnival Barker has shown us what we are currently....a FUBAR mess! The funny thing about the CSU mandate as it currently stands is that “the requirement could be met by a traditional ethnic studies course or by a class focused on social justice or social movements.” I would LOVE to put together a class on social movements that could satisfy that requirement. We’d go down the list of socialist movements and their outcomes. Jamestown: almost everyone died, USSR: Holodomor, China: Great Leap Forward mass starvation, Cambodia Khmer Rouge: The Killing Fields, Third Reich: Holocaust, Zimbabwe: starvation, murder, and 100 trillion dollar bills. There is no way that class would get approved but would technically satisfy the requirement. Of course there is already an effort to amend the mandate to disallow anything that is not specifically an ethnic studies course. My Man, that sounds like it would be a blast. I am a long time history teacher and love teaching about topics like that; I've long thought about teaching a class about US Rebellions and Riots- Bacon's, Shays's, Whiskey, Nat Turner, Nativists, Conscription, Haymarket, Homestead, etc, etc". Whats funny is my political views land somewhere between Jo Jorgensen and Brian T. Carroll, so I don't think I have some sort of agenda to push.
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 25, 2020 22:24:24 GMT -8
So what? I had to take a "cross cultural" course at State on my way to becoming an accountant. I managed.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jul 26, 2020 5:53:19 GMT -8
So what? I had to take a "cross cultural" course at State on my way to becoming an accountant. I managed. Sure you managed but are you better at accounting because of it? Putting on these types of classes the whole school must take isn’t without cost. All of the inclusion and diversity administration staff isn’t without cost. Ignoring for a moment the psychological damage caused by this approach and focusing purely on the accounting of it, would it not be better if colleges focused on a stripped down core subject with a minimum of ancillary courses while holding the cost of receiving that education to the level of inflation? Or is it better for the students to bloat the required curriculum while raising the cost of education by quadruple the rate of inflation and saddling graduates with ridiculous debt loads that cannot be disposed via bankruptcy?
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 26, 2020 23:02:54 GMT -8
So what? I had to take a "cross cultural" course at State on my way to becoming an accountant. I managed. Sure you managed but are you better at accounting because of it? Putting on these types of classes the whole school must take isn’t without cost. All of the inclusion and diversity administration staff isn’t without cost. Ignoring for a moment the psychological damage caused by this approach and focusing purely on the accounting of it, would it not be better if colleges focused on a stripped down core subject with a minimum of ancillary courses while holding the cost of receiving that education to the level of inflation? Or is it better for the students to bloat the required curriculum while raising the cost of education by quadruple the rate of inflation and saddling graduates with ridiculous debt loads that cannot be disposed via bankruptcy? Maybe I'm not a better accountant due to non accounting courses I took. But I'm sure I learned a thing or two that makes me not a better person but a better educated person. I guess a stripped down curriculum makes sense for a trade school, which isn't what San Diego State University is. Sometimes general education requirements could be a pain in the butt, but I don't remember ever being indoctrinated by the faculty as part of some liberal plot, which seems to be your concern. But I took most of my GE at a community college. BTW the "ridiculous debt loads" are due to easy student loans that enable some colleges (mostly private) to increase costs above inflation. Lower the demand and the price drops.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jul 27, 2020 8:09:33 GMT -8
I don't remember ever being indoctrinated by the faculty as part of some liberal plot, which seems to be your concern. You are reading things you want to see. Not only do I not think it is a plot, I don’t think it is at all liberal. The idea of assigning human beings into various inescapable collectives or castes on the basis of immutable characteristics people are born with, and then collectivizing sin so that any individual in that caste is guilty for an offense ever done by any other person in the same caste is anti-liberal. There are some other words I would use to describe that way of seeing the world, but 'liberal' definitely isn't one of them. the "ridiculous debt loads" are due to easy student loans that enable some colleges (mostly private) to increase costs above inflation. Lower the demand and the price drops. On this point we mostly agree except for your thinking of it being mostly private schools whose costs have risen above inflation. I think it is all schools, but I think it has indeed been driven by easy student loans and resulted in Starbucks Baristas with college degrees. That needs to go away, and new dorms with rock climbing walls need to go away, and mandatory ethnic studies curriculum needs to go away. The modern university is doing more harm than good, or at least more harm than it should to the next generation by saddling them with so much debt.
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Post by ptsdthor on Aug 1, 2020 19:42:02 GMT -8
freebeacon.com/campus/rutgers-declares-grammar-racist/Nothing surprises anymore. Its right out of George Orwell's "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them." From the article: "Leonydus Johnson, a speech pathologist and libertarian activist, said the school's change makes the racist assumption that minorities cannot comprehend traditional English. Johnson called the change "insulting, patronizing, and in itself, extremely racist." "The idea that expecting a student to write in grammatically correct sentences is indicative of racial bias is asinine," Johnson told the Washington Free Beacon. "It's like these people believe that being non-white is an inherent handicap or learning disability…. That's racism. It has become very clear to me that those who claim to be ‘anti-racist' are often the most racist people in this country." Couldn't have said it better. '
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 6, 2020 5:14:15 GMT -8
The funny thing about the CSU mandate as it currently stands is that “the requirement could be met by a traditional ethnic studies course or by a class focused on social justice or social movements.” I would LOVE to put together a class on social movements that could satisfy that requirement. We’d go down the list of socialist movements and their outcomes. Jamestown: almost everyone died, USSR: Holodomor, China: Great Leap Forward mass starvation, Cambodia Khmer Rouge: The Killing Fields, Third Reich: Holocaust, Zimbabwe: starvation, murder, and 100 trillion dollar bills. There is no way that class would get approved but would technically satisfy the requirement. Of course there is already an effort to amend the mandate to disallow anything that is not specifically an ethnic studies course. My Man, that sounds like it would be a blast. I am a long time history teacher and love teaching about topics like that; I've long thought about teaching a class about US Rebellions and Riots- Bacon's, Shays's, Whiskey, Nat Turner, Nativists, Conscription, Haymarket, Homestead, etc, etc". Whats funny is my political views land somewhere between Jo Jorgensen and Brian T. Carroll, so I don't think I have some sort of agenda to push. It looks like there was a professor at Wright State who tried to put together that class. The university closed the class to the majority of the student body. Only Econ majors were allowed to take it. www.thecollegefix.com/economics-professor-barred-from-teaching-class-critical-of-marxism-to-student-body/
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Post by 84aztec96 on Aug 6, 2020 10:47:22 GMT -8
Great find.
First comment on the article is an excellent one: " "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire
At Wright State University, the Marxists rule."
If you are a history teacher, you have a unique opportunity to make a big difference in some of the madness going on.
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Post by ptsdthor on Aug 10, 2020 8:13:53 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 11, 2020 7:43:45 GMT -8
"Abolish study of History"! Haha, did you really go there? Yesterday trump said the the 1917 pandemic (should be 1918) likely ended WW2!! Looks like somebody actually did abolish the study of history. "I love the poorly educated".
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Post by ptsdthor on Aug 11, 2020 14:26:29 GMT -8
"Abolish study of History"! Haha, did you really go there? Yesterday trump said the the 1917 pandemic (should be 1918) likely ended WW2!! Looks like somebody actually did abolish the study of history. "I love the poorly educated". Not sure you got the critique but is was a leftist Pol in Illinois that wants to abolish the study of history for the sake of the common good. And if we think mangling facts is a disqualifier to lead, lets see how many people Joe said died of gun violence ("150 Million since 2007"), how many we lost to Covid-19 ("120 Million"), or if he knows where the Covid-19 pandemic started ("Luhan")? Could go on but won't. spectator.us/the-end-of-history-in-illinois/"I love the uneducable".
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 11, 2020 16:42:22 GMT -8
"Abolish study of History"! Haha, did you really go there? Yesterday trump said the the 1917 pandemic (should be 1918) likely ended WW2!! Looks like somebody actually did abolish the study of history. "I love the poorly educated". Not sure you got the critique but is was a leftist Pol in Illinois that wants to abolish the study of history for the sake of the common good. And if we think mangling facts is a disqualifier to lead, lets see how many people Joe said died of gun violence ("150 Million since 2007"), how many we lost to Covid-19 ("120 Million"), or if he knows where the Covid-19 pandemic started ("Luhan")? Could go on but won't. spectator.us/the-end-of-history-in-illinois/"I love the uneducable". each side has a fringe, and its child's play to go there. Perhaps you missed your QAnon meeting this week. I hear there are child sex slaves at Puzza Hut.
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