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Post by moctezumaii on Jul 23, 2020 7:03:37 GMT -8
"Meddler" could also be re-framed as a "Disrupter" which carries a more positive connotation. California is a *disrupter* through having created its own emissions requirements, thus by default directly influencing the car manufacturers to build cleaner cars. Thus, "disruption" is a very positive outcome from what others might define as "meddling." In this case, a version of "meddling" that forces college sports decisions to be based more on principles of science and health, instead of major college/conference and media financial interests (ie, greed), would be a very positive "disruption" from Gov Newsom / State of CA. Agree that 'Disruptor' is a better descriptor than 'Active'. Disruptor/Meddler is a better counter-punctal than Active/Meddler. Was only trying to encompass the complete continuum of thought from left to right and then only as it pertains to sports in the fall. But please let me be clear about not wanting to be political here as I am 100% agnostic about partisanship and don't do left/right politics one iota. |
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Post by couldashoulda on Jul 23, 2020 7:43:32 GMT -8
"Meddler" could also be re-framed as a "Disrupter" which carries a more positive connotation. California is a *disrupter* through having created its own emissions requirements, thus by default directly influencing the car manufacturers to build cleaner cars. Thus, "disruption" is a very positive outcome from what others might define as "meddling." In this case, a version of "meddling" that forces college sports decisions to be based more on principles of science and health, instead of major college/conference and media financial interests (ie, greed), would be a very positive "disruption" from Gov Newsom / State of CA. Agree that 'Disruptor' is a better descriptor than 'Active'. Disruptor/Meddler is a better counter-punctal than Active/Meddler. Was only trying to encompass the complete continuum of thought from left to right and then only as it pertains to sports in the fall. But please let me be clear about not wanting to be political here as I am 100% agnostic about partisanship and don't do left/right politics one iota.My approach as well. Just a thought on the various interpretations of disrupter/meddler, grandstander, active, etc...isn't this basically true of most every person that runs for public office? If one aspires to higher (and higher) office, they know that they will be sought by various media, get behind a podium or desk with microphones and cameras in front of them. Perhaps "Grandstanding" is not primary on their minds (although EGO plays a big role in running for public office IMO), and they do actually want to affect change. I am not defending any politician, whether we are talking Newsom or Trump, or whomever. What I am saying is that I see Newsom as perhaps the other side of the Trump coin. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Jul 23, 2020 8:18:14 GMT -8
SDSU still isn't practicing even though the NCAA has some guidelines. Why? Well SDSU sent their plan to CSU who isn't approving it until they get guidance from Newsom. Newsom is already holding up SDSU from starting. Does anyone expect Newsom to give them the green light when our numbers continue to climb?
Yesterday Pete Thamel (Yahoo Sports) even discussed how state and local guidelines will conflict with the NCAA's and then reality will sink in who's in charge.
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 23, 2020 11:15:33 GMT -8
SDSU still isn't practicing even though the NCAA has some guidelines. Why? Well SDSU sent their plan to CSU who isn't approving it until they get guidance from Newsom. Newsom is already holding up SDSU from starting. Does anyone expect Newsom to give them the green light when our numbers continue to climb? Yesterday Pete Thamel (Yahoo Sports) even discussed how state and local guidelines will conflict with the NCAA's and then reality will sink in who's in charge. SDSU can't practice yet due to those guidelines. They've been doing workouts; enhanced training (20 hours a week) can't start until tomorrow (24th); and actual practices/camp can't start until August 7th. |
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Post by hoobs on Jul 23, 2020 17:53:11 GMT -8
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Post by AztecPhil on Jul 24, 2020 6:27:07 GMT -8
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Post by junior on Jul 24, 2020 18:18:50 GMT -8
I've pretty much had enough of the nonsense and politics around something that's literally killing us by the thousands. It's going to take a concerted effort to vanquish this bug, and I am 100% behind any and all efforts to do so. Enough of the dicking around. If it means shuttering workplaces, then find the money to keep owners and workers safe and financially sound and make it happen. Supposedly this is the richest nation in the history of the world. It's time put some of those riches to work for the benefit of everyone. Tough luck if that sounds too political; I'm more concerned about keeping those of us who are left alive.
Getting all kids educated without interruption is far more important than some of those kids playing games - regardless of where that play may take them some day. So if that means shuttering college sports for a year, then do it. If it means kids getting on the internet, then make it work.
It's time for some serious sacrifices to be made - and unless that means sacrificing others, then we need be prepared to make those sacrifices ourselves.
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Post by fisher1fan on Jul 25, 2020 16:59:47 GMT -8
I've pretty much had enough of the nonsense and politics around something that's literally killing us by the thousands. It's going to take a concerted effort to vanquish this bug, and I am 100% behind any and all efforts to do so. Enough of the dicking around. If it means shuttering workplaces, then find the money to keep owners and workers safe and financially sound and make it happen. Supposedly this is the richest nation in the history of the world. It's time put some of those riches to work for the benefit of everyone. Tough luck if that sounds too political; I'm more concerned about keeping those of us who are left alive. Getting all kids educated without interruption is far more important than some of those kids playing games - regardless of where that play may take them some day. So if that means shuttering college sports for a year, then do it. If it means kids getting on the internet, then make it work. It's time for some serious sacrifices to be made - and unless that means sacrificing others, then we need be prepared to make those sacrifices ourselves. Let’s be rational about WHAT businesses are allowed to stay open. Golf courses were closed, briefly, (i dont play) and that is (Without a cart) the ideal activity for social distancing. One on one business interactions with caution also have a low potential impact to spread this. I don’t think CoVid is “political”. I do think that there are bad politicians that want to make everything political, including this. It is a health issue and should be treated as such by all involved |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 26, 2020 11:55:42 GMT -8
I've pretty much had enough of the nonsense and politics around something that's literally killing us by the thousands. It's going to take a concerted effort to vanquish this bug, and I am 100% behind any and all efforts to do so. Enough of the dicking around. If it means shuttering workplaces, then find the money to keep owners and workers safe and financially sound and make it happen. Supposedly this is the richest nation in the history of the world. It's time put some of those riches to work for the benefit of everyone. Tough luck if that sounds too political; I'm more concerned about keeping those of us who are left alive. Getting all kids educated without interruption is far more important than some of those kids playing games - regardless of where that play may take them some day. So if that means shuttering college sports for a year, then do it. If it means kids getting on the internet, then make it work. It's time for some serious sacrifices to be made - and unless that means sacrificing others, then we need be prepared to make those sacrifices ourselves. I doubt we can spend our way out of this crisis (i.e., massive deficit spending by the Feds). It's a tough problem, to be sure. I just hope this does not turn into a 3-5 year Depression (capital D for a reason). One real danger is that we may replicate the situtation that hit Germany in 1923. Look it up if you want to get really scared. AzWm |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jul 27, 2020 7:31:12 GMT -8
This week, maybe even today, will be huge for fall sports considering what Major League Baseball faces with the Marlins. If the Phillies, who the Marlins were playing, start testing positive, MLB will almost certainly have to shut down. Those who run college athletics will have no choice but to follow suit for this fall.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 8:30:14 GMT -8
If pro baseball can't get it done, then no sport without a strictly enforced bubble will be able to play.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 27, 2020 9:33:25 GMT -8
This week, maybe even today, will be huge for fall sports considering what Major League Baseball faces with the Marlins. If the Phillies, who the Marlins were playing, start testing positive, MLB will almost certainly have to shut down. Those who run college athletics will have no choice but to follow suit for this fall. Both the Phillies game and Marlins game have been postponed today. |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jul 27, 2020 11:03:08 GMT -8
Reports say MLB owners held a conference call today but didn't discuss canceling the season. That would have been premature. However, testing following this outbreak will provide additional info which could put the season in danger.
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Post by moctezumaii on Jul 27, 2020 11:45:40 GMT -8
Why I take all the breathless "Vaccine Trials Start" and "Vaccine Trial Looks Promising" stories with two grains of salt. Because while no vaccine has ever been successfully developed for any member of the corona virus clade, lots of wealth has been successfully developed the last four months just TALKING about a vaccine. www.nytimes.com/2020/07/25/business/coronavirus-vaccine-profits-vaxart.html |
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Post by couldashoulda on Jul 27, 2020 13:54:42 GMT -8
Why I take all the breathless "Vaccine Trials Start" and "Vaccine Trial Looks Promising" stories with two grains of salt. Because while no vaccine has ever been successfully developed for any member of the corona virus clade, lots of wealth has been successfully developed the last four months just TALKING about a vaccine. www.nytimes.com/2020/07/25/business/coronavirus-vaccine-profits-vaxart.htmlI am all for getting an effective, safe vaccine to the public. But, I think that the fly in that particular ointment is actually getting people to take it! Recent poll showed 23% of those polled saying no way (anti-vaxxers), and another 50% saying that they aren't too sure, at least not of the first batch of vaccine. |
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