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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2020 9:57:15 GMT -8
I mean it doesn't. Those who are going to vote for Trump will vote for him no matter what. He's not gaining Independent votes, he's losing them in droves. There's no seismic shift coming with 3 1/2 months left to the election. And now with the administration hijacking the COVID totals, it's going to raise even more doubt. I think you're downplaying the votes he's going to get from the ones who won't say their going to vote for him out of fear, or backlash and there's A LOT of them out there. Same thing happened in the last election. Losing Independent votes or not is what's going to decide it. I'm not so sure you're correct when you say he's losing them in droves. Biden might be Trump's best ally. Not many are confident in the guy and people will vote for Trump to keep Biden out of office. Like I said, how many that are going to shift to Biden, will be the deciding factor, I think. I can just laugh because you're just so poorly informed here. Sorry.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2020 11:19:32 GMT -8
I think you're downplaying the votes he's going to get from the ones who won't say their going to vote for him out of fear, or backlash and there's A LOT of them out there. Same thing happened in the last election. Losing Independent votes or not is what's going to decide it. I'm not so sure you're correct when you say he's losing them in droves. Biden might be Trump's best ally. Not many are confident in the guy and people will vote for Trump to keep Biden out of office. Like I said, how many that are going to shift to Biden, will be the deciding factor, I think. I can just laugh because you're just so poorly informed here. Sorry. Enlighten me.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jul 17, 2020 11:22:54 GMT -8
Biden doesn't support defunding the police. A simple 15 second Google search will help here. Indeed simple 15 second Google searches do help. Here is Biden in his own words during an interview with Ady Barkan 9 days ago: Biden: "Surplus military equipment for law enforcement — they don't need that. The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into a neighborhood; it's like the military invading. They don't know anybody; they become the enemy, they’re supposed to be protecting these people." Barkan: "But do we agree that we can redirect some of the funding?" Biden: " Yes. Absolutely." This is another round of the fun game 'What does defund the police mean?' Does 'defund the police' mean abolish the police? No, Joe Biden is not for abolishing the police. Does 'defund the police' mean take some of the funds police need to do their job away from them? Yes, Joe Biden is for redirecting some of the funding police need. Here is the link to the video queued up to the 22:47 mark where Joe specifically states his position on defunding the police. youtu.be/V4CLoiA3vfQ?t=1367
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2020 11:36:20 GMT -8
Biden doesn't support defunding the police. A simple 15 second Google search will help here. Indeed simple 15 second Google searches do help. Here is Biden in his own words during an interview with Ady Barkan 9 days ago: Biden: "Surplus military equipment for law enforcement — they don't need that. The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into a neighborhood; it's like the military invading. They don't know anybody; they become the enemy, they’re supposed to be protecting these people." Barkan: "But do we agree that we can redirect some of the funding?" Biden: " Yes. Absolutely." This is another round of the fun game 'What does defund the police mean?' Does 'defund the police' mean abolish the police? No, Joe Biden is not for abolishing the police. Does 'defund the police' mean take some of the funds police need to do their job away from them? Yes, Joe Biden is for redirecting some of the funding police need. Here is the link to the video queued up to the 22:47 mark where Joe specifically states his position on defunding the police. youtu.be/V4CLoiA3vfQ?t=1367 Which is what I said - He wants better training in place and better protocols in place.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2020 11:38:43 GMT -8
I can just laugh because you're just so poorly informed here. Sorry. Enlighten me. No. Please do your own research. That's why we are in this position to begin with. Study the trends, study the patterns and the valid polls (all of them) to reach your conclusion. It's your decision, not mine. I already know what my plan is.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2020 11:49:03 GMT -8
This seems interesting.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jul 17, 2020 11:50:10 GMT -8
Indeed simple 15 second Google searches do help. Here is Biden in his own words during an interview with Ady Barkan 9 days ago: Biden: "Surplus military equipment for law enforcement — they don't need that. The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into a neighborhood; it's like the military invading. They don't know anybody; they become the enemy, they’re supposed to be protecting these people." Barkan: "But do we agree that we can redirect some of the funding?" Biden: " Yes. Absolutely." This is another round of the fun game 'What does defund the police mean?' Does 'defund the police' mean abolish the police? No, Joe Biden is not for abolishing the police. Does 'defund the police' mean take some of the funds police need to do their job away from them? Yes, Joe Biden is for redirecting some of the funding police need. Here is the link to the video queued up to the 22:47 mark where Joe specifically states his position on defunding the police. youtu.be/V4CLoiA3vfQ?t=1367 Which is what I said - He wants better training in place and better protocols in place. Yes, Biden wants better training in place and better protocols in place and less funding for police. Although Joe Biden's people keep trying to spin it, when Joe is able to speak for himself he is for defunding the police but not abolishing the police.
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Post by azteccc on Jul 17, 2020 16:55:37 GMT -8
The half-life of the Senate's Filibuster Rule will be about 1/4 of a second. And to cover for all the unconstitutional laws the Democrats will want to pass, they will start with packing the Supreme Court from 9 to 15. And with a rubber stamp in all three sectors of Government, they would try to pass laws that would guarantee Democrat power for decades to come which would include adding Washington DC (and perhaps Puerto Rico) as a state, passing a law that would nullify the electoral college (with the help of the stacked SCOTUS from obvious challenge), codifying legalized voting fraud using Union goons by enacting nationwide voting by mail and ballot harvesting provisions, they will pass race based reparations laws causing further racial animus (their go-to & power increasing wedge issue), they will immediately offer amnesty to all illegals, will neuter border enforcement/ICE, will bend over backwards for drug cartels and related gangs not caring about heroin overdoses or child sex trafficking, will enact single payer (see DMV) health care, they will forgive college loans for their favorite demographics, they will ask the pepple of the Red states pay for idiocy of the Blue states as people flee the $hit holes they have created, they will offer free college tuition to their favorite demographics, cripple the US economy with crony capitalism for partners in Green Business, will add punitive taxes and regulations on anyone doing business or making money in the private sector, will increase means testing for Government benefits, will attack ma & pa capitalism by eliminating long term capital gains tax rates and will take away the tax benefits of investment home ownership, will increase corporate tax rates and regulations, will put on knee pads for China, will hollow out the military (doing a "defund" number in it just like the one they are doing to the police). Other than that Ms Lincoln, how is your Free Bubble Up and Rainbow Stew? I wish! Goddmn man the Dem Party is definitely not this cool. If they were into doing even like 1/10th of this stuff I’d vote for them. They’re not, they’re Biden’s party.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jul 17, 2020 17:29:46 GMT -8
The half-life of the Senate's Filibuster Rule will be about 1/4 of a second. And to cover for all the unconstitutional laws the Democrats will want to pass, they will start with packing the Supreme Court from 9 to 15. And with a rubber stamp in all three sectors of Government, they would try to pass laws that would guarantee Democrat power for decades to come which would include adding Washington DC (and perhaps Puerto Rico) as a state, passing a law that would nullify the electoral college (with the help of the stacked SCOTUS from obvious challenge), codifying legalized voting fraud using Union goons by enacting nationwide voting by mail and ballot harvesting provisions, they will pass race based reparations laws causing further racial animus (their go-to & power increasing wedge issue), they will immediately offer amnesty to all illegals, will neuter border enforcement/ICE, will bend over backwards for drug cartels and related gangs not caring about heroin overdoses or child sex trafficking, will enact single payer (see DMV) health care, they will forgive college loans for their favorite demographics, they will ask the pepple of the Red states pay for idiocy of the Blue states as people flee the $hit holes they have created, they will offer free college tuition to their favorite demographics, cripple the US economy with crony capitalism for partners in Green Business, will add punitive taxes and regulations on anyone doing business or making money in the private sector, will increase means testing for Government benefits, will attack ma & pa capitalism by eliminating long term capital gains tax rates and will take away the tax benefits of investment home ownership, will increase corporate tax rates and regulations, will put on knee pads for China, will hollow out the military (doing a "defund" number in it just like the one they are doing to the police). Other than that Ms Lincoln, how is your Free Bubble Up and Rainbow Stew? I wish! Goddmn man the Dem Party is definitely not this cool. If they were into doing even like 1/10th of this stuff I’d vote for them. They’re not, they’re Biden’s party. I feel your pain. We couldn't get enough support to push Vermin Supreme to the nomination. Jo Jorgensen really stepped in it about a week ago and exposed herself as totally phony. It looks like the only sane choice with a chance is Trump.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2020 17:40:29 GMT -8
I wish! Goddmn man the Dem Party is definitely not this cool. If they were into doing even like 1/10th of this stuff I’d vote for them. They’re not, they’re Biden’s party. I feel your pain. We couldn't get enough support to push Vermin Supreme to the nomination. Jo Jorgensen really stepped in it about a week ago and exposed herself as totally phony. It looks like the only sane choice with a chance is Trump. There's only two people who have a chance....but neither are what I would call sane.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 17, 2020 18:43:35 GMT -8
I wish! Goddmn man the Dem Party is definitely not this cool. If they were into doing even like 1/10th of this stuff I’d vote for them. They’re not, they’re Biden’s party. I feel your pain. We couldn't get enough support to push Vermin Supreme to the nomination. Jo Jorgensen really stepped in it about a week ago and exposed herself as totally phony. It looks like the only sane choice with a chance is Trump. "sane choice with a chance is trump"? Well, the rest of the advanced world thinks we have gone insane..that's for sure.
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Post by DeeMoney on Jul 18, 2020 18:46:15 GMT -8
Honestly, I would hope very little would change any time a new president took over, whether left to right or right to left. It seems that Presidents are like Quarterbacks, they get too much credit and too much blame, when really the credit or blame should be spread around more to others. For so many, they want the president to be a 'leader' and view him as some sort of cultural guide that dictates how people behave in society. This simply isnt what he does, attached is a link to his articulated jobs: www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiiNow, this isnt to write that presidential power hasn't grown over the past 200+ years, it has, just not to the extent that many think; or oddly enough to the extent that many want. For some reason people seem to want to divest more power into a single person, they want to make him some sort of lord over the fiefdom of America. I guess its just easier to complain about one person then look at the complexities of why issues are happening. That being written, if Biden were to win I imagine there would be less restrictions on immigration- which fits within section 3 "he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed..." which gives the president the authority to enforce the laws or not (ala Andrew Jackson & Worcester). Once could argue that congress would pass more legislation, but Trump has only issued eight vetoes- so any legislation passed or not really shouldnt fall on the executive branch. They are free to do what they want in regards to legislation, and frankly I hoped they would do more to be the most powerful branch as opposed to the least (which is what theyve devolved to). The budget may swing some towards the left, although the Budget Act of 1974 had already given Congress so much control of the purse strings that it shouldnt matter all that much who the president is. Foreign affairs could see a big change, dealings with Russia, Europe, trade with China. These could all move drastically. I guess I am a strict constructionist in a lot of ways- but I dont think a change would be drastic. That being said, I am certain both sides of the media would have you believe otherwise, and spin it in a way that favors their opinion.
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