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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 16, 2020 12:37:53 GMT -8
Care to speculate on what will happen if the Dems control White House and all of Congress?
AzWm
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 16, 2020 13:23:26 GMT -8
Well, EPA will not have industry insiders in charge of the public's health. Endangered species and National Parks will not be under attack. Information about the coronavirus will be based on facts and science. We wont be gaslighted every day by a "smoke n mirrors" whack job. Americans will not be gaslighted each day to despise each other. Europe, Canada and other countries will trust us again and want to be our friends. We will not be told that our best friends are Brazil, Turkey and most importantly Russia....off the top of my head.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2020 14:28:22 GMT -8
Care to speculate on what will happen if the Dems control White House and all of Congress? AzWm Probably less middle of the night firings of IG's, less pandering to Russia, less gassing of protesters, more environmental protections, less cronyism and Hatch Act violations.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 16, 2020 14:28:44 GMT -8
ps, I forgot...our US passports will be usable beyond solely Mexico, Turkey and Tanzania.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2020 15:35:43 GMT -8
I fear that he will merely be a puppet, and we'll become a Socialist Country. I'm afraid that he'll defund our Police to where we're on our own basically, and no one will want to join the Police force. Will he not be pro military and not keep us at the level we are now? Will he not be able to get our economy back to the great levels that Trump had them at? Will unemployment go back to all time lows in all categories under him?
These are just a few off the top of my head. So many questions, and he has not given me any confidence that he'll be able to do it, yet. I want to hear more from him.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2020 15:36:54 GMT -8
I fear that he will merely be a puppet, and we'll become a Socialist Country. I'm afraid that he'll defund our Police to where we're on our own basically, and no one will want to join the Police force. Will he not be pro military and not keep us at the level we are now? Will he not be able to get our economy back to the great levels that Trump had them at? Will unemployment go back to all time lows in all categories under him? I do agree that environmentally we'll be far better off, which is huge. These are just a few off the top of my head. So many questions, and he has not given me any confidence that he'll be able to do it, yet. I want to hear more from him.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 16, 2020 15:51:49 GMT -8
The half-life of the Senate's Filibuster Rule will be about 1/4 of a second. And to cover for all the unconstitutional laws the Democrats will want to pass, they will start with packing the Supreme Court from 9 to 15. And with a rubber stamp in all three sectors of Government, they would try to pass laws that would guarantee Democrat power for decades to come which would include adding Washington DC (and perhaps Puerto Rico) as a state, passing a law that would nullify the electoral college (with the help of the stacked SCOTUS from obvious challenge), codifying legalized voting fraud using Union goons by enacting nationwide voting by mail and ballot harvesting provisions, they will pass race based reparations laws causing further racial animus (their go-to & power increasing wedge issue), they will immediately offer amnesty to all illegals, will neuter border enforcement/ICE, will bend over backwards for drug cartels and related gangs not caring about heroin overdoses or child sex trafficking, will enact single payer (see DMV) health care, they will forgive college loans for their favorite demographics, they will ask the pepple of the Red states pay for idiocy of the Blue states as people flee the $hit holes they have created, they will offer free college tuition to their favorite demographics, cripple the US economy with crony capitalism for partners in Green Business, will add punitive taxes and regulations on anyone doing business or making money in the private sector, will increase means testing for Government benefits, will attack ma & pa capitalism by eliminating long term capital gains tax rates and will take away the tax benefits of investment home ownership, will increase corporate tax rates and regulations, will put on knee pads for China, will hollow out the military (doing a "defund" number in it just like the one they are doing to the police). Other than that Ms Lincoln, how is your Free Bubble Up and Rainbow Stew?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2020 15:58:44 GMT -8
I fear that he will merely be a puppet, and we'll become a Socialist Country. I'm afraid that he'll defund our Police to where we're on our own basically, and no one will want to join the Police force. Will he not be pro military and not keep us at the level we are now? Will he not be able to get our economy back to the great levels that Trump had them at? Will unemployment go back to all time lows in all categories under him? These are just a few off the top of my head. So many questions, and he has not given me any confidence that he'll be able to do it, yet. I want to hear more from him. Good God, man. This is sad. A) Biden doesn't support defunding the police. A simple 15 second Google search will help here. B) Pro-military? What level are we at now? Explain, because you're not going to like the truth here, I'm guessing. C) Back to the bogus economic numbers. Rinse and repeat. Again, the downtick originated in the Obama administration, which Biden was yes, a pretty big part of. If you have no confidence in Biden, that's fine. But where's your confidence with the OTHER candidate?
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2020 16:21:11 GMT -8
I fear that he will merely be a puppet, and we'll become a Socialist Country. I'm afraid that he'll defund our Police to where we're on our own basically, and no one will want to join the Police force. Will he not be pro military and not keep us at the level we are now? Will he not be able to get our economy back to the great levels that Trump had them at? Will unemployment go back to all time lows in all categories under him? These are just a few off the top of my head. So many questions, and he has not given me any confidence that he'll be able to do it, yet. I want to hear more from him. Good God, man. This is sad. Is that all you got? You're so bothersome with your holier than thou attitude. Aren't you the one that said it would be a leap of faith with Biden? I have questions concerning the guy, like millions of others do. Are you saying these aren't concerns? If you are, then you're terribly wrong. Or should I quote you and say, "This is sad, Ryan." Sheesh
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2020 16:25:44 GMT -8
I fear that he will merely be a puppet, and we'll become a Socialist Country. I'm afraid that he'll defund our Police to where we're on our own basically, and no one will want to join the Police force. Will he not be pro military and not keep us at the level we are now? Will he not be able to get our economy back to the great levels that Trump had them at? Will unemployment go back to all time lows in all categories under him? These are just a few off the top of my head. So many questions, and he has not given me any confidence that he'll be able to do it, yet. I want to hear more from him. Good God, man. This is sad. A) Biden doesn't support defunding the police. A simple 15 second Google search will help here. B) Pro-military? What level are we at now? Explain, because you're not going to like the truth here, I'm guessing. C) Back to the bogus economic numbers. Rinse and repeat. Again, the downtick originated in the Obama administration, which Biden was yes, a pretty big part of. If you have no confidence in Biden, that's fine. But where's your confidence with the OTHER candidate? Rinse and repeat. Like I've said before, I give Obama credit for doing a good job with the economy from what he inherited, and I said that I give Trump credit for maintaining it, and actually elevating it. I've heard that he most likely won't DEFUND the police, but I don't trust him and who's in his ear. What's your take on the military? Where are we at?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2020 16:29:54 GMT -8
Good God, man. This is sad. A) Biden doesn't support defunding the police. A simple 15 second Google search will help here. B) Pro-military? What level are we at now? Explain, because you're not going to like the truth here, I'm guessing. C) Back to the bogus economic numbers. Rinse and repeat. Again, the downtick originated in the Obama administration, which Biden was yes, a pretty big part of. If you have no confidence in Biden, that's fine. But where's your confidence with the OTHER candidate? Rinse and repeat. Like I've said before, I give Obama credit for doing a good job with the economy from what he inherited, and I said that I give Trump credit for maintaining it, and actually elevating it. I've heard that he most likely won't DEFUND the police, but I don't trust him and who's in his ear. What's your take on the military? Where are we at? He doesn’t support defunding the police. And what you're talking about or theorizing is the destruction of police. Biden wants more training, more mental health protocols in place, which is 100% needed. I think the U.S. is a laughingstock. Russia put bounties on American troops. Enough said.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2020 16:43:29 GMT -8
Rinse and repeat. Like I've said before, I give Obama credit for doing a good job with the economy from what he inherited, and I said that I give Trump credit for maintaining it, and actually elevating it. I've heard that he most likely won't DEFUND the police, but I don't trust him and who's in his ear. What's your take on the military? Where are we at? He doesn’t support defunding the police. And what you're talking about or theorizing is the destruction of police. Biden wants more training, more mental health protocols in place, which is 100% needed. I think the U.S. is a laughingstock. Russia put bounties on American troops. Enough said. If that's what Biden will do, then he passes the test there. He needs to instill the confidence in millions of Americans that he can bring our economy, and unemployment rates, etc, back to where it was before the pandemic, or people on the fence will vote for Trump, or a write in candidate, which won't suit Biden well on election day.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 16, 2020 17:09:50 GMT -8
Well you can all feel better now. Kayleigh Mcenany praised Donald Trump for his "Historic" response to the coronavirus! I'll give it historic, Baghdad Bob couldnt have said it any better.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2020 17:11:07 GMT -8
He doesn’t support defunding the police. And what you're talking about or theorizing is the destruction of police. Biden wants more training, more mental health protocols in place, which is 100% needed. I think the U.S. is a laughingstock. Russia put bounties on American troops. Enough said. If that's what Biden will do, then he passes the test there. He needs to instill the confidence in millions of Americans that he can bring our economy, and unemployment rates, etc, back to where it was before the pandemic, or people on the fence will vote for Trump, or a write in candidate, which won't suit Biden well on election day. None of that matters. Literally.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2020 17:52:31 GMT -8
If that's what Biden will do, then he passes the test there. He needs to instill the confidence in millions of Americans that he can bring our economy, and unemployment rates, etc, back to where it was before the pandemic, or people on the fence will vote for Trump, or a write in candidate, which won't suit Biden well on election day. None of that matters. Literally. We'll see.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 16, 2020 17:55:06 GMT -8
Care to speculate on what will happen if the Dems control White House and all of Congress? AzWm What's your speculation?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 16, 2020 19:04:52 GMT -8
None of that matters. Literally. We'll see. I mean it doesn't. Those who are going to vote for Trump will vote for him no matter what. He's not gaining Independent votes, he's losing them in droves. There's no seismic shift coming with 3 1/2 months left to the election. And now with the administration hijacking the COVID totals, it's going to raise even more doubt.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 16, 2020 22:36:59 GMT -8
Care to speculate on what will happen if the Dems control White House and all of Congress? AzWm What's your speculation? I think some of what ptsdthor opines is probable. Here's the thing; I switched to the Libertarian Party in '76 because I have no confidence in either major party. I not only distrust the Democrats; I fear them. Seriously. The Republicans are just feckless, or as Bobby Jindal said; they are the stupid party. In any case, I fear the Dems because they (meaning the leaders) are either dedicated collectivists or very cynical careerists who see their party as the best way to gain power and wealth. Here are a few things I think they will try to accomplish: 1. Silence conservative media power by re-instating the fairness doctrine. Left wing media operations will mostly get a pass. Fox News and most of talk radio will get hammered. 2. Abolish the filabuster. 3. Make sure Biden serves only one term, then get their black, female VP two terms. By that time, the SCOTUS will be reliably hard left for many years. 4. Cut defense spending drastically. 5. Do nothing serious about the challenge facing us in China. 6. Try to abolish the Second Ammendment. 7. Try to abolish the Electoral College. I am convinced that many of the most radical Democrats seek to make this country a de facto one party state, and the EC is a roadblock in the way of acheiving that goal. Mexico was effectively a one party state for half a century. There were multiple parties there, but the PRI won all the elections. I would fear the Republicans if they achieved virtual one party status, too. They just are not close to that. I do not understand why so many intelligent people do not see that greater and greater power in the hands of the government is so dangerous. 8. Just like Trump, the Dems will do nothing to reduce the national debt. Intelligent Dems know that you cannot grow the national debt forever. They just hope that the day of reckoning will not come until they are dead. I may think of other points later. AzWm
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 17, 2020 6:34:15 GMT -8
I think some of what ptsdthor opines is probable. Here's the thing; I switched to the Libertarian Party in '76 because I have no confidence in either major party. I not only distrust the Democrats; I fear them. Seriously. The Republicans are just feckless, or as Bobby Jindal said; they are the stupid party. In any case, I fear the Dems because they (meaning the leaders) are either dedicated collectivists or very cynical careerists who see their party as the best way to gain power and wealth. Here are a few things I think they will try to accomplish: 1. Silence conservative media power by re-instating the fairness doctrine. Left wing media operations will mostly get a pass. Fox News and most of talk radio will get hammered. 2. Abolish the filabuster. 3. Make sure Biden serves only one term, then get their black, female VP two terms. By that time, the SCOTUS will be reliably hard left for many years. 4. Cut defense spending drastically. 5. Do nothing serious about the challenge facing us in China. 6. Try to abolish the Second Ammendment. 7. Try to abolish the Electoral College. I am convinced that many of the most radical Democrats seek to make this country a de facto one party state, and the EC is a roadblock in the way of acheiving that goal. Mexico was effectively a one party state for half a century. There were multiple parties there, but the PRI won all the elections. I would fear the Republicans if they achieved virtual one party status, too. They just are not close to that. I do not understand why so many intelligent people do not see that greater and greater power in the hands of the government is so dangerous. 8. Just like Trump, the Dems will do nothing to reduce the national debt. Intelligent Dems know that you cannot grow the national debt forever. They just hope that the day of reckoning will not come until they are dead. I may think of other points later. AzWm Schadenfreude William? Those who know trump better than any, and are willing to speak, say things like "if he gets elected, the American experiment will be over. This includes his niece and the guy who co-wrote the art of the deal. Not to mention the Lincoln project and former employees such as: Kelley, Mattis, Tillerson, Scaramucci etc. Why would you be more afraid of the Dems. than this guy?
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2020 7:06:24 GMT -8
I mean it doesn't. Those who are going to vote for Trump will vote for him no matter what. He's not gaining Independent votes, he's losing them in droves. There's no seismic shift coming with 3 1/2 months left to the election. And now with the administration hijacking the COVID totals, it's going to raise even more doubt. I think you're downplaying the votes he's going to get from the ones who won't say their going to vote for him out of fear, or backlash and there's A LOT of them out there. Same thing happened in the last election. Losing Independent votes or not is what's going to decide it. I'm not so sure you're correct when you say he's losing them in droves. Biden might be Trump's best ally. Not many are confident in the guy and people will vote for Trump to keep Biden out of office. Like I said, how many that are going to shift to Biden, will be the deciding factor, I think.
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