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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 6, 2020 21:15:33 GMT -8
Baker's contribution vs BYU was 13 points. Sorry, he's played one game. You can't call people "critics" when there is simply insufficient evidence as to whether he will be good or not. I'm reasonably confident, but aware the kid has almost no track record. The defense beat BYU. You’re not doing your homework on this game. Baker won the game despite just 97 yards of rushing in 35 attempts. He was 19/25 for 172, no INTs. 10 receivers caught balls. He moved us down the field , only to have the inept run game blow up for numerous TFL, which plagued us all year , if you’ll recall. His stellar debut does not mean he’s the guy at all, but I don’t recall two QBs (along with Johnson) with more promise to pick from this year. iAgnew vs Chapman two years ago was not as promising as this competition.,
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jul 7, 2020 7:14:33 GMT -8
Baker's contribution vs BYU was 13 points. Sorry, he's played one game. You can't call people "critics" when there is simply insufficient evidence as to whether he will be good or not. I'm reasonably confident, but aware the kid has almost no track record. The defense beat BYU. You’re not doing your homework on this game. Baker won the game despite just 97 yards of rushing in 35 attempts. He was 19/25 for 172, no INTs. 10 receivers caught balls. He moved us down the field , only to have the inept run game blow up for numerous TFL, which plagued us all year , if you’ll recall. His stellar debut does not mean he’s the guy at all, but I don’t recall two QBs (including Johnson) with more promise to pick from , including Agnew vs Chapman two years ago. I don't disagree with your last statement, though it's a rather low bar.
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Post by zollner on Jul 7, 2020 8:00:02 GMT -8
All the throwing looks good. I would like to see him look off a receiver and then come back to that receiver. You know like looking off the safety. JMO If your going to run the RPO offense you need a QB that scares the defense with his running ability.
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Post by jdaztec on Jul 7, 2020 8:20:09 GMT -8
I think we are going to be in good shape at The QB position this year. If our OC is creative, The OL is good and the kids absorb the system fast enough we could be really good.
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Post by aztecfanatic on Jul 7, 2020 9:42:59 GMT -8
I think we are going to be in good shape at The QB position this year. If our OC is creative, The OL is good and the kids absorb the system fast enough we could be really good. There might not be a college team in America that this does not apply to.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jul 7, 2020 13:53:24 GMT -8
He who should not be named!
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Post by standiego on Jul 23, 2020 12:20:12 GMT -8
Understand that workouts are voluntary - has LJ been given a number yet ? Do not see it on Go Aztecs
Also think it will be cool if K. Banks DL keeps the numeral 2 as shown on Go Aztecs
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Post by laaztec on Jul 23, 2020 13:14:41 GMT -8
Working out with Drew Brees
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Post by sdsustoner on Jul 24, 2020 13:10:35 GMT -8
It's gonna be a horserace. Career stats: Johnson: 21-37, 1 TD, 1 INT. Baker: 19-24, 1 TD, 0 INT. Food for thought, Baker beat BYU. And BYU beat USC & Tennessee. Lots of equity in that win against the Cougs. Oldie Out The defense beat BYU. Baker didn't screw up & made some good plays when given the chance. But, if BYU scores 14, we lose.
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 24, 2020 13:51:02 GMT -8
Food for thought, Baker beat BYU. And BYU beat USC & Tennessee. Lots of equity in that win against the Cougs. Oldie Out The defense beat BYU. Baker didn't screw up & made some good plays when given the chance. But, if BYU scores 14, we lose.You don't know that. If BYU scores 14 we may open up the Offense more, allowing Baker more opportunities to make plays. Play calling was situational, and ultra conservative given how well the D was playing (& dominating), the score & the fact it was his 1st start. Had we trailed that's not an option. Baker's 79% completion % may have been put to the test.
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Post by fisherville on Jul 24, 2020 15:34:06 GMT -8
Baker's contribution vs BYU was 13 points. Sorry, he's played one game. You can't call people "critics" when there is simply insufficient evidence as to whether he will be good or not. I'm reasonably confident, but aware the kid has almost no track record. The defense beat BYU. You’re not doing your homework on this game. Baker won the game despite just 97 yards of rushing in 35 attempts. He was 19/25 for 172, no INTs. 10 receivers caught balls. He moved us down the field , only to have the inept run game blow up for numerous TFL, which plagued us all year , if you’ll recall. His stellar debut does not mean he’s the guy at all, but I don’t recall two QBs (along with Johnson) with more promise to pick from this year. iAgnew vs Chapman two years ago was not as promising as this competition., 172 yards on 25 attempts is not impressive. It comes out to less than 7 yards a attempt. Now he did throw one great deep ball to ice the game basically, but overall his performance was that if a ok game manager. He might be good, but BYU game was so so
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Post by jp92grad on Jul 24, 2020 16:12:25 GMT -8
You’re not doing your homework on this game. Baker won the game despite just 97 yards of rushing in 35 attempts. He was 19/25 for 172, no INTs. 10 receivers caught balls. He moved us down the field , only to have the inept run game blow up for numerous TFL, which plagued us all year , if you’ll recall. His stellar debut does not mean he’s the guy at all, but I don’t recall two QBs (along with Johnson) with more promise to pick from this year. iAgnew vs Chapman two years ago was not as promising as this competition., 172 yards on 25 attempts is not impressive. It comes out to less than 7 yards a attempt. Now he did throw one great deep ball to ice the game basically, but overall his performance was that if a ok game manager. He might be good, but BYU game was so so Just wondering if you were able to watch the game? He had a pretty good grasp of the game plan witch was opened up a bit from other games and it was his first time playing R-Fr. He was in a position to play as per a game manager later on in the game due to having the lead and not trying to do to much and loose the game but to hold on for the win. He moved the team and was able to keep the DB's honest with his arm (not seen here for years) He played a pretty good game, looked cool in the pocket, showed a good arm, made good decision when needed. Was he perfeced NO, was he a 5* recruit coming in to save the program NO, was he throwing 50 yards on a rope NO. Overall looked good with some upside, nothing more nothing less!
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Post by ramrodd23 on Jul 24, 2020 17:03:14 GMT -8
The defense beat BYU. Baker didn't screw up & made some good plays when given the chance. But, if BYU scores 14, we lose.You don't know that. If BYU scores 14 we may open up the Offense more, allowing Baker more opportunities to make plays. Play calling was situational, and ultra conservative given how well the D was playing (& dominating), the score & the fact it was his 1st start. Had we trailed that's not an option. Baker's 79% completion % may have been put to the test. Play calling was mediocre and second half adjustments was horrendous last year. So yes BYU scores 14 we would have lost.
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Post by standiego on Jul 24, 2020 17:10:05 GMT -8
would expect the offense to be different this year with a "New " HC and OC - most important is the OL and then QB to execute the game plan depending on the skill set
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Post by jp92grad on Jul 24, 2020 17:10:56 GMT -8
You don't know that. If BYU scores 14 we may open up the Offense more, allowing Baker more opportunities to make plays. Play calling was situational, and ultra conservative given how well the D was playing (& dominating), the score & the fact it was his 1st start. Had we trailed that's not an option. Baker's 79% completion % may have been put to the test. Play calling was mediocre and second half adjustments was horrendous last year. So yes BYU scores 14 we would have lost. Bottom line, Aztec won! typical Rocky win. They have made changes (everyone asked for) over the the offseason: 1)New Head coach 2)New OC and DC 3)Almost entire new coaching staff. Should be an interesting season once it starts.
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 24, 2020 17:26:58 GMT -8
Play calling was mediocre and second half adjustments was horrendous last year. So yes BYU scores 14 we would have lost. Bottom line, Aztec won! typical Rocky win. They have made changes (everyone asked for) over the the offseason: 1)New Head coach 2)New OC and DC 3)Almost entire new coaching staff. Should be an interesting season once it starts. Luckily its not a new coaching staff. Only 4 new faces. Aside from Rocky, the core staff remains, albeit we've changed coordinators. Should be an easy transition with no drastic changes.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 24, 2020 20:29:27 GMT -8
You’re not doing your homework on this game. Baker won the game despite just 97 yards of rushing in 35 attempts. He was 19/25 for 172, no INTs. 10 receivers caught balls. He moved us down the field , only to have the inept run game blow up for numerous TFL, which plagued us all year , if you’ll recall. His stellar debut does not mean he’s the guy at all, but I don’t recall two QBs (along with Johnson) with more promise to pick from this year. iAgnew vs Chapman two years ago was not as promising as this competition., 172 yards on 25 attempts is not impressive. It comes out to less than 7 yards a attempt. Now he did throw one great deep ball to ice the game basically, but overall his performance was that if a ok game manager. He might be good, but BYU game was so so Yours is a bogus criticism. It was his first college football game!!! Does that mean anything with 19 competitions ? Guess so. He was stellar in his accuracy. Go watch the replay . Two extraordinary throws on third and long to Mathews that put us in position to use clock and get a FG late. And you are critical because you think the YPC was not to your liking? Get real man! Now, we’ve seen QBs have opening success that did not have legs. So, with Lucas Johnson we have two QBs who are more talented than Agnew and Chapman last time around two years ago . Hope to see this competition play out. Baker may be a gamer. Maybe. By the way, 19 for 172 is 9.05 YPC , Nothing lousy about that in a Horton conceived offense. Ive never heard of a criticism of a QB based on yards per attempt. How does that compute?
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 24, 2020 23:23:51 GMT -8
172 yards on 25 attempts is not impressive. It comes out to less than 7 yards a attempt. Now he did throw one great deep ball to ice the game basically, but overall his performance was that if a ok game manager. He might be good, but BYU game was so so Yours is a bogus criticism. It was his first college football game!!! Does that mean anything with 19 competitions ? Guess so. He was stellar in his accuracy. Go watch the replay . Two extraordinary throws on third and long to Mathews that put us in position to use clock and get a FG late. And you are critical because you think the YPC was not to your liking? Get real man! Now, we’ve seen QBs have opening success that did not have legs. So, with Lucas Johnson we have two QBs who are more talented than Agnew and Chapman last time around two years ago . Hope to see this competition play out. Baker may be a gamer. Maybe. By the way, 19 for 172 is 9.05 YPC , Nothing lousy about that in a Horton conceived offense. Ive never heard of a criticism of a QB based on yards per attempt. How does that compute? While I agree Baker was terrific, YPA is a much better measure of a QB than YPC and always has been because it takes into account completion percentage. I don't know anyone who looks at YPC anymore unless its yards per catch and judging WRs. BTW, 7 yards per attempt is better than 9 yards per completion. The latter would be among the worst in the country if that was the average over a season. The former, while still not great, is much closer to average (about 7.4). But Baker took what the defense gave him.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 25, 2020 21:02:50 GMT -8
I read the error filled copy on his site and wonder why he never had a proof reader , or why someone close to him never had the courage to help him. The poorly written stuff is glaring —no punctuation. mis- spelling, wrong words used.
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