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Post by aztecgold on May 12, 2020 8:42:30 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on May 12, 2020 8:58:33 GMT -8
Pham's elbow actually makes him a really valuable DH piece, saving some wear and tear on his body. Mejia's defensive issues make him another great candidate. Just hope tbe players and owners can agree. Doesn't look great at the moment.
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Post by aardvark on May 12, 2020 16:36:15 GMT -8
Pham's elbow actually makes him a really valuable DH piece, saving some wear and tear on his body. Mejia's defensive issues make him another great candidate. Just hope tbe players and owners can agree. Doesn't look great at the moment. From what I have heard, the MLBPA isn't happy at all with the proposal.
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Post by aztecryan on May 12, 2020 16:38:31 GMT -8
Pham's elbow actually makes him a really valuable DH piece, saving some wear and tear on his body. Mejia's defensive issues make him another great candidate. Just hope tbe players and owners can agree. Doesn't look great at the moment. From what I have heard, the MLBPA isn't happy at all with the proposal. Let's see : They want the players to take less pay, assume all the health risks and like it? Hm. Wonder how that will work out for them. Negotiating in bad faith through the media, crying poor after years of record revenue?
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Post by aardvark on May 12, 2020 16:49:18 GMT -8
One thing this will probably do--get the DH into the NL on a permanent basis. As much as I hate the DH, the rules have to be the same for both leagues.
I do wonder when Minor League baseball makes some kind of announcement regarding the season. About the best they could do is play 70 games (if they end around the traditional Labor Day stop date). It just doesn't look good for them, and it looks especially bad for teams that weren't that profitable to begin with. That will help whittle the minors down closer to MLB's target of 120 affiliated franchises for 2021.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 6:40:05 GMT -8
Universal DH is a good idea. Not a fan of watching the pitchers bat.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 14, 2020 2:07:29 GMT -8
Pham's elbow actually makes him a really valuable DH piece, saving some wear and tear on his body. Mejia's defensive issues make him another great candidate. Just hope tbe players and owners can agree. Doesn't look great at the moment. From what I have heard, the MLBPA isn't happy at all with the proposal. If the Players Association pulls out of this year, they will look very bad. Not the time to leverage for more money.
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Post by aztecryan on May 14, 2020 10:46:09 GMT -8
From what I have heard, the MLBPA isn't happy at all with the proposal. If the Players Association pulls out of this year, they will look very bad. Not the time to leverage for more money. Why should the players risk their lives when the owners are asking for another round of payroll reductions while inheriting zero risk?
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Post by aztecmusician on May 14, 2020 22:32:29 GMT -8
If the Players Association pulls out of this year, they will look very bad. Not the time to leverage for more money. Why should the players risk their lives when the owners are asking for another round of payroll reductions while inheriting zero risk? When you consider what health care workers, emergency response personnel and the kid bagging groceries go through, players who would rather stay home opposed to a very low risk environment seem a bit over squeamish. There won’t be anybody at the ballpark and they will have access to state of the art anti-viral measures. Whatever, if they don’t want to play ball I’ll probably find something else to care about.
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Post by aztecryan on May 14, 2020 23:11:49 GMT -8
Why should the players risk their lives when the owners are asking for another round of payroll reductions while inheriting zero risk? When you consider what health care workers, emergency response personnel and the kid bagging groceries go through, players who would rather stay home opposed to a very low risk environment seem a bit over squeamish. There won’t be anybody at the ballpark and they will have access to state of the art anti-viral measures. Whatever, if they don’t want to play ball I’ll probably find something else to care about. This says nothing about the demands of the owners who are negotiating in bad faith through the media. Crying poor when teams like Atlanta made almost half a billion dollars in 2019. Owners are walking back promises they made in March. A revenue sharing platform does nothing for the players. Not interested in lining the pockets of billionaires.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 14, 2020 23:37:40 GMT -8
When you consider what health care workers, emergency response personnel and the kid bagging groceries go through, players who would rather stay home opposed to a very low risk environment seem a bit over squeamish. There won’t be anybody at the ballpark and they will have access to state of the art anti-viral measures. Whatever, if they don’t want to play ball I’ll probably find something else to care about. This says nothing about the demands of the owners who are negotiating in bad faith through the media. Crying poor when teams like Atlanta made almost half a billion dollars in 2019. Owners are walking back promises they made in March. A revenue sharing platform does nothing for the players. Not interested in lining the pockets of billionaires. I don’t have access to owners financial projections. I do however, understand public perception. MLB has enjoyed 20+ years of smooth labor relations and during this time the game has prospered. If the players don’t play citing financial reasons, they will look very bad in the eyes of their fans, this is the wrong time to leverage. They risk a possible drop in fan base. If they play right now, they will ensure their continued success (through advertising and gate revenue) for the next 25 years.
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Post by aztecryan on May 15, 2020 8:00:05 GMT -8
This says nothing about the demands of the owners who are negotiating in bad faith through the media. Crying poor when teams like Atlanta made almost half a billion dollars in 2019. Owners are walking back promises they made in March. A revenue sharing platform does nothing for the players. Not interested in lining the pockets of billionaires. I don’t have access to owners financial projections. I do however, understand public perception. MLB has enjoyed 20+ years of smooth labor relations and during this time the game has prospered. If the players don’t play citing financial reasons, they will look very bad in the eyes of their fans, this is the wrong time to leverage. They risk a possible drop in fan base. If they play right now, they will ensure their continued success (through advertising and gate revenue) for the next 25 years. This is incredibly silly and you continue to miss the point. The players are assuming all the risk. The owners are inheriting zero of it while continuing to pull in record revenue streams. 10.7 BILLION dollars last year, but the players are supposed to just take a poor deal and play....because why, again? What does a revenue sharing platform do for the players? Nothing. Look bad in the eyes of the fans? No, most sane people would understand negotiating in bad faith. Fernando Tatis Jr., under this new structure would make less than $100,000. Why on Earth should he do that? The owners already destroyed the draft, the minor league structure and now they want to demand a second round of payroll reduction because billionaires can't afford it? Hardest of passes.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 16, 2020 3:00:00 GMT -8
I don’t have access to owners financial projections. I do however, understand public perception. MLB has enjoyed 20+ years of smooth labor relations and during this time the game has prospered. If the players don’t play citing financial reasons, they will look very bad in the eyes of their fans, this is the wrong time to leverage. They risk a possible drop in fan base. If they play right now, they will ensure their continued success (through advertising and gate revenue) for the next 25 years. This is incredibly silly and you continue to miss the point. The players are assuming all the risk. The owners are inheriting zero of it while continuing to pull in record revenue streams. 10.7 BILLION dollars last year, but the players are supposed to just take a poor deal and play....because why, again? What does a revenue sharing platform do for the players? Nothing. Look bad in the eyes of the fans? No, most sane people would understand negotiating in bad faith. Fernando Tatis Jr., under this new structure would make less than $100,000. Why on Earth should he do that? The owners already destroyed the draft, the minor league structure and now they want to demand a second round of payroll reduction because billionaires can't afford it? Hardest of passes. This is a big picture perspective. The bottom can drop out of baseball’s unprecedented financial success virtually overnight with some ill timed bad publicity. The monster contracts which players currently enjoy are built on 25 years of smooth labor relations after the player’s disastrous strike of 1994-95. MY point is while non baseball people (aka the fans) are losing businesses and livelihoods which took them lifetimes to build, baseball needs to step up and provide a little positive morale for our country. Show us that we are moving forward and will get back to normalcy in an era where #1 starters make a ludicrous $35 million per season. If baseball players sit this season out, they will alienate the fans and could be flushing their recent financial windfall down the porcelain fixtures.
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Post by aztecryan on May 16, 2020 8:51:06 GMT -8
This is incredibly silly and you continue to miss the point. The players are assuming all the risk. The owners are inheriting zero of it while continuing to pull in record revenue streams. 10.7 BILLION dollars last year, but the players are supposed to just take a poor deal and play....because why, again? What does a revenue sharing platform do for the players? Nothing. Look bad in the eyes of the fans? No, most sane people would understand negotiating in bad faith. Fernando Tatis Jr., under this new structure would make less than $100,000. Why on Earth should he do that? The owners already destroyed the draft, the minor league structure and now they want to demand a second round of payroll reduction because billionaires can't afford it? Hardest of passes. This is a big picture perspective. The bottom can drop out of baseball’s unprecedented financial success virtually overnight with some ill timed bad publicity. The monster contracts which players currently enjoy are built on 25 years of smooth labor relations after the player’s disastrous strike of 1994-95. MY point is while non baseball people (aka the fans) are losing businesses and livelihoods which took them lifetimes to build, baseball needs to step up and provide a little positive morale for our country. Show us that we are moving forward and will get back to normalcy in an era where #1 starters make a ludicrous $35 million per season. If baseball players sit this season out, they will alienate the fans and could be flushing their recent financial windfall down the porcelain fixtures. Got some bad news for you - The majority of people don't share your viewpoint. And no, one season isn't going to flush anything anywhere. Manfred already addressed this recently when asked. They would take a large hit, but it wouldn't wipe out their surplus profits. It isn't the job of the baseball player to unite a country. They signed a contract to play baseball.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 16, 2020 15:19:32 GMT -8
This is a big picture perspective. The bottom can drop out of baseball’s unprecedented financial success virtually overnight with some ill timed bad publicity. The monster contracts which players currently enjoy are built on 25 years of smooth labor relations after the player’s disastrous strike of 1994-95. MY point is while non baseball people (aka the fans) are losing businesses and livelihoods which took them lifetimes to build, baseball needs to step up and provide a little positive morale for our country. Show us that we are moving forward and will get back to normalcy in an era where #1 starters make a ludicrous $35 million per season. If baseball players sit this season out, they will alienate the fans and could be flushing their recent financial windfall down the porcelain fixtures. Got some bad news for you - The majority of people don't share your viewpoint. And no, one season isn't going to flush anything anywhere. Manfred already addressed this recently when asked. They would take a large hit, but it wouldn't wipe out their surplus profits. It isn't the job of the baseball player to unite a country. They signed a contract to play baseball. Fine. Baseball can either ascend back to the top of the American Professional Sporting food chain (by playing now) or become as relevant as horse racing. (By waiting until....whenever) The first sport back in the public eye wins. JMO
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Post by aardvark on May 16, 2020 16:21:54 GMT -8
Got some bad news for you - The majority of people don't share your viewpoint. And no, one season isn't going to flush anything anywhere. Manfred already addressed this recently when asked. They would take a large hit, but it wouldn't wipe out their surplus profits. It isn't the job of the baseball player to unite a country. They signed a contract to play baseball. Fine. Baseball can either ascend back to the top of the American Professional Sporting food chain (by playing now) or become as relevant as horse racing. (By waiting until....whenever) The first sport back in the public eye wins. JMO Record betting handles at just about every horse track that has run during the last 2 months. Horse racing is relevant, as they are the only sport that has continued through all of this. Should MLB not play this year--it would suck, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if they don't play. Minor league baseball is another story. Teams will go belly-up, and minor league players lose a year of development. And we still haven't heard yet as to whether Minor League Baseball will shed 42 affiliated clubs, which is what MLB wants. And that's not even talking about the greatly reduced MLB draft this year. What is it--5 rounds in total? Either way, the minor leagues will probably look vastly different next season.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 16, 2020 21:25:29 GMT -8
Honestly I hope they play, it would be great for the sport if they play, but looking at the numbers my Magic 8 sez: “signs point to no.”
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Post by aztecryan on May 16, 2020 22:29:16 GMT -8
Honestly I hope they play, it would be great for the sport if they play, but looking at the numbers my Magic 8 sez: “signs point to no.” They'll play. But it needs to be fair and equitable, represenative of the risk involved. Owners got what they wanted, it's time to reciprocate.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 17, 2020 1:53:22 GMT -8
I know the Players Association has wanted the DH in the NL for decades. If this becomes permanent, it’s a nice win for the PA in the long run.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 6:03:05 GMT -8
As a baseball purist, I do not like the DH. MLB wants more offense so it seems like this was coming regardless. I like high scoring games, but I am fine with a 2-1 pitchers dual as well. Pitchers throwing inside is part of the game. But pitchers having to take an AB cuts down on the head hunting in my opinion. Just want baseball to return.
Bring Franmil Back!!
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