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Post by onions on May 13, 2020 6:39:01 GMT -8
m.youtube.com/watch?v=jl6Cl8C0Lw4 A lot of his highlight reels list him as a 6’7 guard/forward and he shows a pretty decent shot and handle and only avg athleticism for a wing player. But those same skills and coordination in a 6’10 220+ package is a different ball game. If this kid gets in the weight room he’s gonna earn a lot of time on the floor over the next few years.
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Post by ignoranus on May 13, 2020 20:44:45 GMT -8
The highlights that I have seen show the biggest guy on the floor dominating the other guys, AS he should! Who are those other guys?
I like that he plays defense and moves pretty well---certainly not a stiff legged stick man. Certainly has some useful potential, especially if he really is 6'10". Being AllState in two different sports, even in a lower division, shows some genuine athletic ability.
Gotta hope that he becomes a walkon Horatio Alger story. And is far more respected than Alger Hiss.
I hereby now predict that he ends up playing QB for the Aztecs.
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Post by Gundo on May 13, 2020 21:15:10 GMT -8
The highlights that I have seen show the biggest guy on the floor dominating the other guys, AS he should! Who are those other guys? I like that he plays defense and moves pretty well---certainly not a stiff legged stick man. Certainly has some useful potential, especially if he really is 6'10". Being AllState in two different sports, even in a lower division, shows some genuine athletic ability. Gotta hope that he becomes a walkon Horatio Alger story. And is far more respected than Alger Hiss. I hereby now predict that he ends up playing QB for the Aztecs. QB Lol
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Post by standiego on May 14, 2020 8:38:26 GMT -8
think Coach Morris was lead recruiter for Cade
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Post by fisherville on May 14, 2020 8:47:16 GMT -8
The likelihood of Cade ever playing meaningful is low. People are overanalyzing this, he’s brought in to be a practice body. Nothing else.
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Post by sdcoug on May 14, 2020 9:06:38 GMT -8
The likelihood of Cade ever playing meaningful is low. People are overanalyzing this, he’s brought in to be a practice body. Nothing else. I wonder if those projecting Alger as a rotation guy in a couple years are projecting Giordano to step into the rotation for Gomez after next season?? : ) Alger was told he'd be a scout team guy, which he'll be. He has some skills, but IMO Joel has a higher ceiling & he was never going to play meaningful minutes here (unless the 3 guys ahead of him were injured/foul trouble). Alger could develop in a couple years, but he's more likely to transfer somewhere to get actual PT than staying 4 years as the scout team/emergency center. I'd expect a similar path to Joel's, but hopefully without the 2 guys ahead of him being injured most of the time. The comparisons to Tomiac I've seen are funny though, more so on the FB site.
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Post by ignoranus on May 14, 2020 13:39:32 GMT -8
I believe that young Mr. Alger had offers to play FB & VB; but, hoops was his favorite sport. So, a try @ QB may not be so far fetched as some may believe.
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Post by sdcoug on May 14, 2020 13:50:38 GMT -8
I believe that young Mr. Alger had offers to play FB & VB; but, hoops was his favorite sport. So, a try @ QB may not be so far fetched as some may believe. From junior colleges, but definitely no D1 schools. If we're talking about him playing BB & FB at Grossmont it probably isn't far fetched.
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Post by survalli on May 14, 2020 13:53:04 GMT -8
dont think we have ever had anyone of his size in as a walk on. can only be a good thing
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Post by onions on May 14, 2020 13:57:47 GMT -8
The likelihood of Cade ever playing meaningful is low. People are overanalyzing this, he’s brought in to be a practice body. Nothing else. I wonder if those projecting Alger as a rotation guy in a couple years are projecting Giordano to step into the rotation for Gomez after next season?? : ) Alger was told he'd be a scout team guy, which he'll be. He has some skills, but IMO Joel has a higher ceiling & he was never going to play meaningful minutes here (unless the 3 guys ahead of him were injured/foul trouble). Alger could develop in a couple years, but he's more likely to transfer somewhere to get actual PT than staying 4 years as the scout team/emergency center. I'd expect a similar path to Joel's, but hopefully without the 2 guys ahead of him being injured most of the time. The comparisons to Tomiac I've seen are funny though, more so on the FB site. I get the gist of your point, but ... in high school Cade was better ... Giordano avg 12 and 4 vs Cade 18 and 12. ... and they both have pretty similar wing/forward skills, but 6'3 vs 6'10 And vs Joel, Joel struggled to dribble the ball and had pretty terrible hands and footwork ... he was thrown tons of passes that were easy dunks or fouls but he fumbled them away ... it looks like Cade is already much better at both and clearly has better basketball skills across the board. If Cade was 6'7 he'd never see the floor, but 6'10 guys are usually stiffs or projects, and he's not. Decent rotation bigs are hard to find, and if you combine Cade's late growth spurt, him being the youngest of 3 older siblings (I really think this adds something positive) with a strong work ethic and team first attitude ... I wouldn't be shocked if he's earning minutes in a few years ... especially against a 6'10 freshman project.
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Post by Gundo on May 14, 2020 16:52:20 GMT -8
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Post by sdcoug on May 14, 2020 17:14:57 GMT -8
I wonder if those projecting Alger as a rotation guy in a couple years are projecting Giordano to step into the rotation for Gomez after next season?? : ) Alger was told he'd be a scout team guy, which he'll be. He has some skills, but IMO Joel has a higher ceiling & he was never going to play meaningful minutes here (unless the 3 guys ahead of him were injured/foul trouble). Alger could develop in a couple years, but he's more likely to transfer somewhere to get actual PT than staying 4 years as the scout team/emergency center. I'd expect a similar path to Joel's, but hopefully without the 2 guys ahead of him being injured most of the time. The comparisons to Tomiac I've seen are funny though, more so on the FB site. I get the gist of your point, but ... in high school Cade was better ... Giordano avg 12 and 4 vs Cade 18 and 12. ... and they both have pretty similar wing/forward skills, but 6'3 vs 6'10 And vs Joel, Joel struggled to dribble the ball and had pretty terrible hands and footwork ... he was thrown tons of passes that were easy dunks or fouls but he fumbled them away ... it looks like Cade is already much better at both and clearly has better basketball skills across the board. If Cade was 6'7 he'd never see the floor, but 6'10 guys are usually stiffs or projects, and he's not. Decent rotation bigs are hard to find, and if you combine Cade's late growth spurt, him being the youngest of 3 older siblings (I really think this adds something positive) with a strong work ethic and team first attitude ... I wouldn't be shocked if he's earning minutes in a few years ... especially against a 6'10 freshman project. In the film I've seen, Alger was 6'9 playing against much shorter & very poor talent. He better score & rebound in that scenario. Alger was a walk on at a mediocre program in a low tier conference who's never seen the floor in a college game. I have yet to see game film on him against legit competition, have you? Joel was a nationally ranked 3-4* recruit, depending upon which service you look at, with interest from several schools & a scholarship offer to a very good program, and who has played several minutes at this level. He's light years ahead of where Alger is and given the choice of scout team players I'd take Joel in a heartbeat. I'm sure Alger is a good kid, and will work hard, but this talk about him earning PT down the road is unbelievably presumptuous. He was recruited to WALK ON and fill a role as a scout team player. Nothing more or less. People are over analyzing his skill set, building up what's not yet there. Bigs are in high demand. MANY stiffs who never pan out get college scholarships because programs are desperate to take a chance. If his skill set was as good as some here tend to believe, he'd be getting scholarship offers from MWC teams, not getting a last minute phone call to walk on. If he develops in a few years, and is willing to stick around to play 2-6 minutes a game down the road, more power to him. My bet is if he does develop he still won't be a rotation guy, so by his RS JR year he'll do what Joel did & seek PT at a much lower tier program. He seems coordinated & athletic, but unbelievably raw. But again, logically, if a kid is now 6'10, can handle the ball, and has range, don't you think he'd be getting college scholarship offers?
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Post by dunksalot on May 14, 2020 17:42:30 GMT -8
The likelihood of Cade ever playing meaningful is low. People are overanalyzing this, he’s brought in to be a practice body. Nothing else. Our tallest walk-on I can recall is Federico at 6'6". At 6'10" and with much better footwork and shooting than Tomaic you can bet Alger will see the court if he can perform in practice runs. I'm optimistic that he will hit the weights and buffet enough to get a shot. I think he'll be a regular with a chance to start by his senior season. If I'm wrong then I just do not have enough foresight but this is the only walk on I've ever been excited about. He will be invaluable on scout teams regardless.
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Post by mcquetzalcoatl on May 14, 2020 19:08:42 GMT -8
There is little doubt that Cade's initial value will be on the scout team. All the people who insist that is his only value are forgetting two precedents. One is named Perez and the other more important one is named Quinn. This kid has potential. Give him a couple of years and several people on this board will be eating crow.
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Post by Gundo on May 14, 2020 20:29:55 GMT -8
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Post by fisherville on May 15, 2020 7:56:24 GMT -8
The likelihood of Cade ever playing meaningful is low. People are overanalyzing this, he’s brought in to be a practice body. Nothing else. Our tallest walk-on I can recall is Federico at 6'6". At 6'10" and with much better footwork and shooting than Tomaic you can bet Alger will see the court if he can perform in practice runs. I'm optimistic that he will hit the weights and buffet enough to get a shot. I think he'll be a regular with a chance to start by his senior season. If I'm wrong then I just do not have enough foresight but this is the only walk on I've ever been excited about. He will be invaluable on scout teams regardless. He has neither better shooting nor better footwork than Tomaic. Nothing suggests he’ll come remotely close to the rotation and is zero threat to any of the other bigs.
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Post by fisherville on May 15, 2020 7:57:05 GMT -8
There is little doubt that Cade's initial value will be on the scout team. All the people who insist that is his only value are forgetting two precedents. One is named Perez and the other more important one is named Quinn. This kid has potential. Give him a couple of years and several people on this board will be eating crow. Perez was a much better prospect than this guy, he had legitimate scholarship offers.
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Post by dunksalot on May 15, 2020 8:25:01 GMT -8
Our tallest walk-on I can recall is Federico at 6'6". At 6'10" and with much better footwork and shooting than Tomaic you can bet Alger will see the court if he can perform in practice runs. I'm optimistic that he will hit the weights and buffet enough to get a shot. I think he'll be a regular with a chance to start by his senior season. If I'm wrong then I just do not have enough foresight but this is the only walk on I've ever been excited about. He will be invaluable on scout teams regardless. He has neither better shooting nor better footwork than Tomaic. Nothing suggests he’ll come remotely close to the rotation and is zero threat to any of the other bigs. Bookmarked for future posterity.
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Post by sdcoug on May 15, 2020 9:30:42 GMT -8
There is little doubt that Cade's initial value will be on the scout team. All the people who insist that is his only value are forgetting two precedents. One is named Perez and the other more important one is named Quinn. This kid has potential. Give him a couple of years and several people on this board will be eating crow. AQ played 2 years of D1 basketball before coming to SDSU, and started several games at CSN. He was a scholarship player there, recruited there over other D1 schools. AQ never played a single game as a non-scholarship player - he was put on scholarship after sitting out due to transfer. Alger was a walk-on at Seattle U & has zero D1 experience. You can't compare the two. And as Fisherville pointed out, Perez was a much bigger prospect. He's not Faux or Sharper either. He's a fraction of the player Tomaic is. We added a much taller Giordano, who could be a pretty decent D2 player if he so chooses. It's awesome to find someone with Alger's height & raw skill set to come here without a scholarship & agree to play on the scout team, and I definitely hope he develops in someone who can be a decent emergency player if necessary. But even if he does, he'll get recruited over every year. He's bound to go somewhere else IF his goal is ever to be a contributing player on a D1 team. If he's happy to stay here as a scout player for 3-4 years more power to him! That would be unbelievably rare.
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Post by AztecPhil on May 15, 2020 12:57:42 GMT -8
For those of you who are negative on the potential of any of our players future potential, I wish I had the same crystal ball to see into the future. What I see in Alger is a current D-2 player as a guard or wing, that is growing into a post player's body, yet he still moves like a smaller guy. For him to get serious backup minutes he will need to put on 20-30 pounds of muscle. He is young, it could happen. No he does not have the talent on Anselem, who I am hoping we get. Time will tell if Alger grows into his potential, but for now, if he is a serviceable player on the scout team to challenge our starters, then that is more than we currently seem to have.
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