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Post by standiego on May 19, 2020 13:48:04 GMT -8
Would continue to battle for Frank unless the coaches are feeling that our chances are slim to sign him . As we have seen it is not easy signing a talented guy to play the 5 . So you do your best to get it done .
Who knows what/ when will happen with the "New Transfer Rule "
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Post by dunksalot on May 19, 2020 15:52:58 GMT -8
Not good for SDSU with him pushing out his decision and us talking to ETSU PG? Kind of hard to pick us right now with the cancellation of fall classes and not knowing if we will play before January Cancelling classes and cancelling basketball games are different topics. If anything, "all online" has to be a players' dream...someone else just might do those and by no means am I advocating that.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 19, 2020 15:55:56 GMT -8
Kind of hard to pick us right now with the cancellation of fall classes and not knowing if we will play before January Cancelling classes and cancelling basketball games are different topics. If anything, "all online" has to be a players' dream...someone else just might do those and by no means am I advocating that. Except NCAA has said if students aren’t on campus, no sports. Don’t think other schools are not in his Ear telling him SDSU May not play full season.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 19, 2020 16:01:35 GMT -8
Kind of hard to pick us right now with the cancellation of fall classes and not knowing if we will play before January Fall classes haven't been cancelled (planned hybrid w/ in-person & online), and the plan is still to play a full season. Correct, bad choice of words on my part. Problem for SDSU is NCAA has said if students aren’t on campus, no sports. I know with the SDSU flex, some students will be on campus and the intent is to play, but it is far from certain the NCAA and Gov newsome will see it the same way. The uncertainty about playing a full schedule is not helping recruitment. Other schools will use those doubts to their advantage. Arkansas of the SEC, doesn’t have to worry about these doubts
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Post by aztech on May 19, 2020 17:00:26 GMT -8
Fall classes haven't been cancelled (planned hybrid w/ in-person & online), and the plan is still to play a full season. Correct, bad choice of words on my part. Problem for SDSU is NCAA has said if students aren’t on campus, no sports. I know with the SDSU flex, some students will be on campus and the intent is to play, but it is far from certain the NCAA and Gov newsome will see it the same way. The uncertainty about playing a full schedule is not helping recruitment. Other schools will use those doubts to their advantage. Arkansas of the SEC, doesn’t have to worry about these doubts This is an excerpt in the San Francisco Chronicle, today: "SAN DIEGO (AP) — The California State University system’s plan for a mostly virtual fall semester due to the coronavirus pandemic doesn’t necessarily close the door on football at its three schools that play in the far-flung Mountain West Conference. San Diego State is looking at having football players return to campus no earlier than July 7 and is making plans to play the season as scheduled, athletic director John David Wicker said."
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Post by sdcoug on May 19, 2020 17:25:27 GMT -8
Fall classes haven't been cancelled (planned hybrid w/ in-person & online), and the plan is still to play a full season. Correct, bad choice of words on my part. Problem for SDSU is NCAA has said if students aren’t on campus, no sports. I know with the SDSU flex, some students will be on campus and the intent is to play, but it is far from certain the NCAA and Gov newsome will see it the same way. The uncertainty about playing a full schedule is not helping recruitment. Other schools will use those doubts to their advantage. Arkansas of the SEC, doesn’t have to worry about these doubts We don't recruit against the SEC so not worried about that. Our recruiting has been fine. Newsome has opened the doors for pro sports to be played. He's not going to say pro sports can play but college can't. The hybrid model allows SDSU to bring students to campus, tentatively starting July 7th, and with students on campus athletes can be as well. The fly in the ointment would be a mahor relaps, obviously. Today was a very positive day for college athletics.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 19, 2020 18:14:27 GMT -8
Correct, bad choice of words on my part. Problem for SDSU is NCAA has said if students aren’t on campus, no sports. I know with the SDSU flex, some students will be on campus and the intent is to play, but it is far from certain the NCAA and Gov newsome will see it the same way. The uncertainty about playing a full schedule is not helping recruitment. Other schools will use those doubts to their advantage. Arkansas of the SEC, doesn’t have to worry about these doubts We don't recruit against the SEC so not worried about that. Our recruiting has been fine. Newsome has opened the doors for pro sports to be played. He's not going to say pro sports can play but college can't. The hybrid model allows SDSU to bring students to campus, tentatively starting July 7th, and with students on campus athletes can be as well. The fly in the ointment would be a mahor relaps, obviously. Today was a very positive day for college athletics. We Don’t recruit against SEC?!?! Did you look at the teams in Anselem’s final 6. I guess we can delete this thread then because we aren’t competing with Arkansas or Kentucky Today was a positive day, I agree. But to think other schools aren’t using the uncertainty against us would be foolish. Newsome allowed it on basis that covid Numbers don’t go up. Once things open up, numbers should go up. We he then close it again? Has the NCAA issued an opinion on the flex schedule and allowing sports?
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Post by sdcoug on May 19, 2020 18:39:01 GMT -8
We don't recruit against the SEC so not worried about that. Our recruiting has been fine. Newsome has opened the doors for pro sports to be played. He's not going to say pro sports can play but college can't. The hybrid model allows SDSU to bring students to campus, tentatively starting July 7th, and with students on campus athletes can be as well. The fly in the ointment would be a mahor relaps, obviously. Today was a very positive day for college athletics. We Don’t recruit against SEC?!?! Did you look at the teams in Anselem’s final 6. I guess we can delete this thread then because we aren’t competing with Arkansas or Kentucky Sorry, should have been specific. Since we were talking about students in general being back and July 7th I was referring to football recruiting. Hoops doesn't appear to be impacted at all. Gomez was a huge add, and Tomaic fits our needs perfectly IMO. If it was an issue I doubt Anselem would have us in his final 5.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 19, 2020 18:48:42 GMT -8
We Don’t recruit against SEC?!?! Did you look at the teams in Anselem’s final 6. I guess we can delete this thread then because we aren’t competing with Arkansas or Kentucky Sorry, should have been specific. Since we were talking about students in general being back and July 7th I was referring to football recruiting. Hoops doesn't appear to be impacted at all. Gomez was a huge add, and Tomaic fits our needs perfectly IMO. If it was an issue I doubt Anselem would have us in his final 5. Figured that since this was a thread on anselem, that it would be apparent. Gomez signed before all this shelter in place started. We were in anselem’s top 5 prior to CSU announcing fall semester on line. Tomiac is a 4. Who has potential, but is a question mark. Is he a yani or josh Davis? Is he something less? All I know is that With Joel leaving we don’t have a back up 5, would be nice to get a 4 star high school center
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Post by ignoranus on May 19, 2020 20:23:54 GMT -8
I THINK THAT ANSELEM APPEARS TO BE EVEN HUGER THAN GOMEZ.
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Post by sdcoug on May 19, 2020 23:00:31 GMT -8
Sorry, should have been specific. Since we were talking about students in general being back and July 7th I was referring to football recruiting. Hoops doesn't appear to be impacted at all. Gomez was a huge add, and Tomaic fits our needs perfectly IMO. If it was an issue I doubt Anselem would have us in his final 5. Figured that since this was a thread on anselem, that it would be apparent. Gomez signed before all this shelter in place started. We were in anselem’s top 5 prior to CSU announcing fall semester on line. Tomiac is a 4. Who has potential, but is a question mark. Is he a yani or josh Davis? Is he something less? All I know is that With Joel leaving we don’t have a back up 5, would be nice to get a 4 star high school center Tomaic is a 5, who likes to face up. He's been a 5 at Maryland, and is bigger and stronger than Joel. A big upgrade. We have our backup. Anselem would be a great add and would be frosting on this class. The CSU guy didn't say anything that impacts us. SDSU is offering a hybrid model with students on campus, as are several CSU campuses. I'm sure Dutch has made him well aware of the current plan.
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 20, 2020 5:05:00 GMT -8
Figured that since this was a thread on anselem, that it would be apparent. Gomez signed before all this shelter in place started. We were in anselem’s top 5 prior to CSU announcing fall semester on line. Tomiac is a 4. Who has potential, but is a question mark. Is he a yani or josh Davis? Is he something less? All I know is that With Joel leaving we don’t have a back up 5, would be nice to get a 4 star high school center Tomaic is a 5, who likes to face up. He's been a 5 at Maryland, and is bigger and stronger than Joel. A big upgrade. We have our backup. Anselem would be a great add and would be frosting on this class. The CSU guy didn't say anything that impacts us. SDSU is offering a hybrid model with students on campus, as are several CSU campuses. I'm sure Dutch has made him well aware of the current plan. Wrong again. Maryland’s roster lists him as a FORWARD. I don’t care what Dutch says, it matters what the NCAA says and have they approved SDSU to play in the fall semester if the whole campus isn’t open? Yes, the intent is to have fall sports, but the road to hell was paved with good intentions. Much like the Bogus Gary Parrish article effected us, so can this, umterps.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/joshua-tomaic/8180
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Post by sdcoug on May 20, 2020 7:54:20 GMT -8
Tomaic is a 5, who likes to face up. He's been a 5 at Maryland, and is bigger and stronger than Joel. A big upgrade. We have our backup. Anselem would be a great add and would be frosting on this class. The CSU guy didn't say anything that impacts us. SDSU is offering a hybrid model with students on campus, as are several CSU campuses. I'm sure Dutch has made him well aware of the current plan. Wrong again. Maryland’s roster lists him as a FORWARD. I don’t care what Dutch says, it matters what the NCAA says and have they approved SDSU to play in the fall semester if the whole campus isn’t open? Yes, the intent is to have fall sports, but the road to hell was paved with good intentions. Much like the Bogus Gary Parrish article effected us, so can this, umterps.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/joshua-tomaic/8180LOL. They listed Smith as a forward as well. He played the post all year and was the one guarding Garza, etc. What you're listed as doesn't mean that's what you played on the court. Traditional "centers" are becoming dinosaurs. SDSU lists Nate, Nolan and Joel as forwards. Do you actually believe that's what they played? Tomaic will back up Nate at CENTER, but has the flexibility to play the 4 if needed. PS. Prolific Prep listed Anselem as a "Forward" - maybe we should stop recruiting him since we're looking for a center, right? PPS. Looks like the NCAA approved onsite voluntary workouts starting in 2 weeks for everyone, including SDSU. SDSU will start theirs July 7th, but many will be on campus beforehand (many leases start mid June). www.prolificprep.org/page/show/5331942-prolific-prep
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Post by sdcoug on May 21, 2020 9:08:58 GMT -8
It's interesting that in Zeigler's article yesterday he mentions the desire to RS Anselem. I agree - it would be in the best interests of both SDSU & him, BUT that's definitely not the vibe he's been sending around. Seems like most of his interviews focus on making an immediate impact, which may move us down his list.
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Post by standiego on May 21, 2020 10:00:02 GMT -8
Dutcher seems to be very up front with recruits . No so with the coaches from Kentucky and Razorbacks... .
Aztecs do have some questions at the 5 for 2020-21 - most not going to be answered until they get going with the practices and then the games . How healthy will Nathan be and his development . How much will Grad Transfer Joshua be able to contribute at the 5 - especially at defense and rebounding . Do not know how Frank would compare to Joshua in abilities to make contributions - many think he has a lot of potential . Of course Joshua has the college experience - would you say similar to Nolan
Frank could be needed or even develop into a player that contributes as early as 2020-21 - Let the practice time be the answer to if he would need to red shirt or not
We all have our opinions - I would say it is worth it to work to sign Frank - see in the practices if he would be able to be a contributor as early as 2020 or it would be later . We have not exactly been able to sign that many quality 5's
Frank will chat with the various schools to get their thoughts - he can sign with someone . See if it works out and then transfer( the new transfer rule will now get voted on in Jan 2021) - Or he could reclassify again to the 2021 class
Still think it is worth the effort to sign him
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Post by Frantic on May 21, 2020 10:02:59 GMT -8
It's interesting that in Zeigler's article yesterday he mentions the desire to RS Anselem. I agree - it would be in the best interests of both SDSU & him, BUT that's definitely not the vibe he's been sending around. Seems like most of his interviews focus on making an immediate impact, which may move us down his list. Redshirting may be a smart move - it worked for Jalen McD. Anselem is a 2021 recruit who reclassified to 2020, so I suspect he's young for his class. And the write-ups I've seen say his offensive game is raw. At this point in late May it seems the kid just needs to make a decision on where he wants to go. BTW, SDSU brought in five new players for 2020, and will have another five open scholies (and maybe more?) in 2021. That's some huge turnover.
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Post by standiego on May 21, 2020 10:14:32 GMT -8
He could decide to take an offer if he is sold on a school that he wants - use the school to see if it works or transfer after 1 year if they pass the No Sit transfer rule in January of 2021
Or he could reclassify again and attend Prep School in 2020-21 - then get even more offers as he further develops his game for the 2021-22 season
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Post by jdaztec on May 21, 2020 10:47:44 GMT -8
Hope we get him. He seems like a good fit.
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Post by fisherville on May 21, 2020 11:02:05 GMT -8
I don’t see anyway frank comes here to redshirt. I mean by all accounts UK wanted him after Sarr, would have redshirted or barely played and he cut them. The ETSU transfer seems like a good player in the Feagin/Gomez mold. He’d be a very good get, and SDSU clearly views the Maryland transfer highly and as a 5.
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Post by sdcoug on May 21, 2020 11:08:54 GMT -8
It's interesting that in Zeigler's article yesterday he mentions the desire to RS Anselem. I agree - it would be in the best interests of both SDSU & him, BUT that's definitely not the vibe he's been sending around. Seems like most of his interviews focus on making an immediate impact, which may move us down his list. Redshirting may be a smart move - it worked for Jalen McD. Anselem is a 2021 recruit who reclassified to 2020, so I suspect he's young for his class. And the write-ups I've seen say his offensive game is raw. At this point in late May it seems the kid just needs to make a decision on where he wants to go. BTW, SDSU brought in five new players for 2020, and will have another five open scholies (and maybe more?) in 2021. That's some huge turnover.That's more the norm these days than the exception unfortunately. With the goal being to "stay old", you tend to lean on grad transfers, plus the normal attrition via graduation. We replaced 4 from the 2019 team going into 2020 & that turned out just fine. If the transfer rule changes for 2022 it may only get worse. The decision to RS is up to the player, and while it may make sense for many it doesn't appear to sound like what Anselem has expressed interest in doing given his recent quotes. He could definitely use it, as a raw big, but convincing him of that while others may be telling him he'd play minutes immediately is a very, very tough sell. The downside of RS McDaniels is we only got 2 years out of him, so not sure I'd use him as an argument for redshirting. Other than not taking away PT from other guys, which can be helpful in itself, the only time it really pays off for the team is when they stick around for the 5th year.
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