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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 9:42:49 GMT -8
What's pathetic is that you think he was doing a great job getting this country back on track. Do some research yourself, instead of citing empty achievements that weren't even entirely his to begin with. Embarrassing how out of touch some people are. Sounds like an everyday press conference. "Tremendously good job we are doing. The virus will soon disappear. I have a lot going on. It's not my fault." Straight up lies, sir. Nothing more. What's pathetic is that when the subject came up that Trump put an early travel ban on China that saved many lives, you immediately said that it basically didn't matter because they were still coming in. That's when I knew you were like the rest of them that can't separate the good and the bad when there's too much hate. Dr. Fauci was commending him for that amongst many others. On the other hand, Biden and many others called him racist for doing that and then had to back track and say that it was a great thing that he did. That's what I call pathetic. Spin, spin, spin. Virus was already here, it was another empty measure. I don't give a damn about Joe Biden. Great thing? A great thing would be to stop lying to the public. Where...are....the....tests? |
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 9:45:20 GMT -8
What's pathetic is that you think he was doing a great job getting this country back on track. Do some research yourself, instead of citing empty achievements that weren't even entirely his to begin with. Embarrassing how out of touch some people are. Sounds like an everyday press conference. "Tremendously good job we are doing. The virus will soon disappear. I have a lot going on. It's not my fault." Straight up lies, sir. Nothing more. It really is embarrassing how out of touch some are, I can agree with on that for sure. People that can't separate their hate from reality have issues. Hate? Lol. Sorry, but you can't explain the multitude of failures away with hate. If you want to see hate, go on social media and see the people blasting the president with four letter words. My position is measured, not kneejerk. 75,000+ deaths and counting though is very hard to swallow. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 7, 2020 9:48:22 GMT -8
What's pathetic is that when the subject came up that Trump put an early travel ban on China that saved many lives, you immediately said that it basically didn't matter because they were still coming in. That's when I knew you were like the rest of them that can't separate the good and the bad when there's too much hate. Dr. Fauci was commending him for that amongst many others. On the other hand, Biden and many others called him racist for doing that and then had to back track and say that it was a great thing that he did. That's what I call pathetic. Spin, spin, spin. Virus was already here, it was another empty measure. I don't give a damn about Joe Biden. Great thing? A great thing would be to stop lying to the public. Where...are....the....tests? Empty measure. Ha!!! I think I'll trust what people like Dr. Fauci, and others say about how great of a move it was and how many lives it saved. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 7, 2020 9:56:34 GMT -8
It really is embarrassing how out of touch some are, I can agree with on that for sure. People that can't separate their hate from reality have issues. Hate? Lol. Sorry, but you can't explain the multitude of failures away with hate. If you want to see hate, go on social media and see the people blasting the president with four letter words. My position is measured, not kneejerk. 75,000+ deaths and counting though is very hard to swallow. Most of those haters are liberals who don't like his tough stance on immigration, etc.... That's basically what started it all and some of his words that I don't even condone. Trump at least had the balls to go after countries that were screwing us financially and making them pay. He's putting America first and that's what this country desperately needed/needs and that's why he got elected. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 10:08:56 GMT -8
Spin, spin, spin. Virus was already here, it was another empty measure. I don't give a damn about Joe Biden. Great thing? A great thing would be to stop lying to the public. Where...are....the....tests? Empty measure. Ha!!! I think I'll trust what people like Dr. Fauci, and others say about how great of a move it was and how many lives it saved. And you can focus on the small picture from 3 months ago while the rest of us will look at the macro level. 1) Pence promised 4 million tests the week of March 11th. Colossal failure. 2) Inconsistent messaging on a daily basis, endangering the public. Hydroxychlorquine, insisting the virus will disappear in warmer weather, using words like "it will disappear like a miracle", "we have it under control" and a half million others. 3) At a time when public safety is paramount and people are actually really dying, coordination and effort was nowhere to be found. The drive-up testing at national retailers? Non-existent. The Defense Production Act? Enacted too late. Instead, blaming it on the previous administration and impeachment because it's too difficult to focus. 4) Removing the head of BARDA in the middle of a pandemic because of a dispute over hydroxychloroquine. A man who has spent 30+ years working on vaccine technology. Dangerous, reckless and cavalier. 5) Attempting to censor the press. Yes, the media is often times muddled with agendas and catchy headlines. However, this is a democracy, not a dictatorship. The president doesn't have "absolute right" to do anything. Attacking female reporters, trying to get reporters to give up their seats because they won't subscribe to the propaganda? Not good. This isn't 1937 and we aren't in Berlin. 6) Direction, direction, direction. Not implementing the CDC guidelines in schools and churches. Discontinuing social distancing guidelines at the federal level. Suppose this could be an extension of #2, but the narrative is going to end up in more death. Where are we headed? What's the next step? Why is the president soliciting advice from Jared Kushner on anything? What are we doing? |
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Post by johneaztec on May 7, 2020 10:15:17 GMT -8
Empty measure. Ha!!! I think I'll trust what people like Dr. Fauci, and others say about how great of a move it was and how many lives it saved. And you can focus on the small picture from 3 months ago while the rest of us will look at the macro level. 1) Pence promised 4 million tests the week of March 11th. Colossal failure. 2) Inconsistent messaging on a daily basis, endangering the public. Hydroxychlorquine, insisting the virus will disappear in warmer weather, using words like "it will disappear like a miracle", "we have it under control" and a half million others. 3) At a time when public safety is paramount and people are actually really dying, coordination and effort was nowhere to be found. The drive-up testing at national retailers? Non-existent. The Defense Production Act? Enacted too late. Instead, blaming it on the previous administration and impeachment because it's too difficult to focus. 4) Removing the head of BARDA in the middle of a pandemic because of a dispute over hydroxychloroquine. A man who has spent 30+ years working on vaccine technology. Dangerous, reckless and cavalier. 5) Attempting to censor the press. Yes, the media is often times muddled with agendas and catchy headlines. However, this is a democracy, not a dictatorship. The president doesn't have "absolute right" to do anything. Attacking female reporters, trying to get reporters to give up their seats because they won't subscribe to the propaganda? Not good. This isn't 1937 and we aren't in Berlin. 6) Direction, direction, direction. Not implementing the CDC guidelines in schools and churches. Discontinuing social distancing guidelines at the federal level. Suppose this could be an extension of #2, but the narrative is going to end up in more death. Where are we headed? What's the next step? Why is the president soliciting advice from Jared Kushner on anything? What are we doing? Ok Ryan, I'll have to fact check these issues when I have time. One thing I do know is that there was mixed messaging in the beginning from everyone, because nobody really knew much about the virus, and it didn't help that China was than transparent, to put it mildly. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 10:21:20 GMT -8
And you can focus on the small picture from 3 months ago while the rest of us will look at the macro level. 1) Pence promised 4 million tests the week of March 11th. Colossal failure. 2) Inconsistent messaging on a daily basis, endangering the public. Hydroxychlorquine, insisting the virus will disappear in warmer weather, using words like "it will disappear like a miracle", "we have it under control" and a half million others. 3) At a time when public safety is paramount and people are actually really dying, coordination and effort was nowhere to be found. The drive-up testing at national retailers? Non-existent. The Defense Production Act? Enacted too late. Instead, blaming it on the previous administration and impeachment because it's too difficult to focus. 4) Removing the head of BARDA in the middle of a pandemic because of a dispute over hydroxychloroquine. A man who has spent 30+ years working on vaccine technology. Dangerous, reckless and cavalier. 5) Attempting to censor the press. Yes, the media is often times muddled with agendas and catchy headlines. However, this is a democracy, not a dictatorship. The president doesn't have "absolute right" to do anything. Attacking female reporters, trying to get reporters to give up their seats because they won't subscribe to the propaganda? Not good. This isn't 1937 and we aren't in Berlin. 6) Direction, direction, direction. Not implementing the CDC guidelines in schools and churches. Discontinuing social distancing guidelines at the federal level. Suppose this could be an extension of #2, but the narrative is going to end up in more death. Where are we headed? What's the next step? Why is the president soliciting advice from Jared Kushner on anything? What are we doing? Ok Ryan, I'll have to fact check these issues when I have time. One thing I do know is that there was mixed messaging in the beginning from everyone, because nobody really knew much about the virus, and it didn't help that China was than transparent, to put it mildly. Fact check away. The last point just happened today. This isn't China's fault anymore, man. This is an abdication of leadership in this country. The same China though that Trump sent tons of units of PPE to, by the way. Here is an article on Rick Bright's removal from BARDA. www.biopharmadive.com/news/ousted-barda-director-claims-retaliation-for-pushing-back-on-unproven-coron/577418/ |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 12:41:11 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 12:58:11 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 13:08:44 GMT -8
It will be again soon.  More to come. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 13:12:45 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on May 7, 2020 13:33:22 GMT -8
Ok Ryan, I'll have to fact check these issues when I have time. One thing I do know is that there was mixed messaging in the beginning from everyone, because nobody really knew much about the virus, and it didn't help that China was than transparent, to put it mildly. Fact check away. The last point just happened today. This isn't China's fault anymore, man. This is an abdication of leadership in this country. The same China though that Trump sent tons of units of PPE to, by the way. Here is an article on Rick Bright's removal from BARDA. www.biopharmadive.com/news/ousted-barda-director-claims-retaliation-for-pushing-back-on-unproven-coron/577418/I personally choose not to be someone who ignores all of the good that Trump has done during his tenure, and focus solely on his performance during this unique time of a pandemic that many professionals didn't know the end result of and still don't. There's many people that jump on ANYTHING that might be construed as a bad move by Trump and exploit it, and twist the heck out of it, because of hate. I'm not one of those. I give credit where credit is due. The country was running absolutely great before this pandemic and it will get back to that when the time is right. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 13:40:17 GMT -8
I personally choose not to be someone who ignores all of the good that Trump has done during his tenure, and focus solely on his performance during this unique time of a pandemic that many professionals didn't know the end result of and still don't. There's many people that jump on ANYTHING that might be construed as a bad move by Trump and exploit it, and twist the heck out of it, because of hate. I'm not one of those. I give credit where credit is due. The country was running absolutely great before this pandemic and it will get back to that when the time is right. Yes, hopefully in January with a new president. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 13:51:31 GMT -8
They found collusion but was Trump involved? You obviously didn't read the links that came out a couple of hours regarding the Russian collusion. But I don't expect you to read anything that debunks your BS. Your Trump hating hypocrisy is clearly obvious. "It's not 2015" so let's forget about that damaging info on Obama. Yet the liberal scum have been going after Trump about Russia for 3 and a half years. And one of my links about Obama was from 2019. Oops!! More to come. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 13:51:32 GMT -8
You obviously didn't read the links that came out a couple of hours regarding the Russian collusion. But I don't expect you to read anything that debunks your BS. Your Trump hating hypocrisy is clearly obvious. "It's not 2015" so let's forget about that damaging info on Obama. Yet the liberal scum have been going after Trump about Russia for 3 and a half years. And one of my links about Obama was from 2019. Oops!! More to come. Put zero stock into a corrupt DOJ exonerating a person who pled guilty twice and committed a FARA violation. Cronyism at its finest. Don't worry, when your "moderate" views can't see both ways, I got you. When the president can no longer hide behind the office, he's going to prison. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 13:53:16 GMT -8
You obviously didn't read the links that came out a couple of hours regarding the Russian collusion. But I don't expect you to read anything that debunks your BS. Your Trump hating hypocrisy is clearly obvious. "It's not 2015" so let's forget about that damaging info on Obama. Yet the liberal scum have been going after Trump about Russia for 3 and a half years. And one of my links about Obama was from 2019. Oops!! More to come. Put zero stock into a corrupt DOJ exonerating a person who pled guilty twice and committed a FARA violation. Cronyism at its finest. Don't worry, when your "moderate" views can't see both ways, I got you. When the president can no longer hide behind the office, he's going to prison. like I said, you didn't read it. As usual. More to come. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 13:57:17 GMT -8
Put zero stock into a corrupt DOJ exonerating a person who pled guilty twice and committed a FARA violation. Cronyism at its finest. Don't worry, when your "moderate" views can't see both ways, I got you. When the president can no longer hide behind the office, he's going to prison. like I said, you didn't read it. As usual. More to come. Saw plenty of it. Don't care. Corruption is corruption. And yes, they found collusion on behalf of the president in the Russian interference. The article I mentioned says exactly that. In the middle of a pandemic, we have no leadership. 2,000+ more deaths today. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 14:01:46 GMT -8
like I said, you didn't read it. As usual. More to come. Saw plenty of it. Don't care. Corruption is corruption. And yes, they found collusion on behalf of the president in the Russian interference. The article I mentioned says exactly that. In the middle of a pandemic, we have no leadership. 2,000+ more deaths today. According to you everybody is corrupt but the Democrats. Who knew? Hypocrisy much? |
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Post by aztecryan on May 7, 2020 14:07:19 GMT -8
Saw plenty of it. Don't care. Corruption is corruption. And yes, they found collusion on behalf of the president in the Russian interference. The article I mentioned says exactly that. In the middle of a pandemic, we have no leadership. 2,000+ more deaths today. According to you everybody is corrupt but the Democrats. Who knew? Hypocrisy much? Guarantee I never said that. But when a bipartisan committee finds out what the world knew, it matters. You can keep trading one liners, but I would rather just deal with reality. Guilty. Impeached. And when he is out, he will be indicted on a litany of charges. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 14:09:45 GMT -8
According to you everybody is corrupt but the Democrats. Who knew? Hypocrisy much? Guarantee I never said that. But when a bipartisan committee finds out what the world knew, it matters. You can keep trading one liners, but I would rather just deal with reality. Guilty. Impeached. And when he is out, he will be indicted on a litany of charges. You don't have to say it. It's obvious!! |
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