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Post by johnnyutah on Jun 4, 2019 12:49:07 GMT -8
Directly related to our new coach. This is the guy Boise State is recruiting and was mentioned in the article from the Boise newspaper as potentially hurting their chances with coach Acker leaving.
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Post by johnnyutah on Jun 4, 2019 12:49:38 GMT -8
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Post by Gundo on Jun 4, 2019 14:14:45 GMT -8
Ché Evans, Jr. 4-star Small Forward - class of 2020
Height: 6-6 Weight: 175 Hometown: Baltimore, MD High School: Saints John Neumann and Maria Goretti Catholic High School
Offers: AZTECS, Texas Tech, Ohio State, Florida, Arkansas, TCU, Boise State
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Post by standiego on Jun 4, 2019 14:16:19 GMT -8
believe we have recently been added to his list - with official offer( would guess from Acker ). Nice to see .
He visited BSU last November. Had UCLA on his previous list when Alford was the HC. Also recently received one from Arkansas new coach Mr M .
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Post by azteccc on Jun 4, 2019 14:30:06 GMT -8
Well sheeeeeeeeit let’s go then Acker!
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Post by jdaztec on Jun 4, 2019 14:46:13 GMT -8
If he landed this kid it would be a heck of a start
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Post by Gundo on Jun 4, 2019 15:58:44 GMT -8
Offered this morning cut his list to seven in the afternoon. www.zagsblog.com/2019/06/04/che-evans-trims-list-to-seven/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=che-evans-trims-list-to-sevenEvans is down to Arkansas, Boise State, Florida, Ohio State, San Diego State, TCU, and Texas Tech. He has taken unofficial visits to Ohio State and TCU and used an official visit to Boise State. Arkansas/San Diego State: “Both of these schools were late to the recruiting party but are very interested in me and offered scholarships immediately. The coaches see me as a priority and want me to take officials very soon. Boise State: “Really love how Coach (Leon) Rice and (Chris) Acker made me feel on my official visit. They made sure Chandler Hutchinson and I communicated and I love how they developed him into a pro.” Florida: “I love how the guards create and score it. I will visit them after high school season. Former Team Melo alum Noah Locke is starting and doing well as a freshman. He is like a big brother to me.” Ohio State: “They really impressed me on my unofficial visit. I loved the campus and the whole staff. They are targeting a few wings, but I’m competitive and would fit well in their system.” TCU: “Coach (Ryan) Miller began recruiting me as a freshman and I really liked my unofficial visit. I’m looking forward to see where they are at my position once the season ends.” Texas Tech: “Tariq Owens is from the Team Melo AAU program and Coach (Chris) Beard and the staff reach out often. I will also give them a hard look after my high school season.”
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Jun 4, 2019 19:27:52 GMT -8
This is exactly the type of player we need
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Post by Gundo on Jun 4, 2019 23:44:48 GMT -8
Evans has at least 23 offers, highly desirable wing player. Hopefully "Chris Acker is SDSU's deal maker." Excited for this summer's activities; recruiting and summer camps.
I wonder if any BSU players are on the Acker train?
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Post by azteccc on Jun 5, 2019 8:11:33 GMT -8
Evans has at least 23 offers, highly desirable wing player. Hopefully "Chris Acker is SDSU's deal maker." Excited for this summer's activities; recruiting and summer camps. I wonder if any BSU players are on the Acker train? The only thing we know for certain is that if we don’t beat 22 other schools after he cut the list to 7 and we offered late, Fire Dutcher.
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Post by johnnyutah on Jun 5, 2019 8:31:52 GMT -8
Evans has at least 23 offers, highly desirable wing player. Hopefully "Chris Acker is SDSU's deal maker." Excited for this summer's activities; recruiting and summer camps. I wonder if any BSU players are on the Acker train? The only thing we know for certain is that if we don’t beat 22 other schools after he cut the list to 7 and we offered late, Fire Dutcher. And if he ends up committing to us, we should immediately name Chris Acker "Head Coach in Waiting".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 9:38:32 GMT -8
Evans has at least 23 offers, highly desirable wing player. Hopefully "Chris Acker is SDSU's deal maker." Excited for this summer's activities; recruiting and summer camps. I wonder if any BSU players are on the Acker train? The only thing we know for certain is that if we don’t beat 22 other schools after he cut the list to 7 and we offered late, Fire Dutcher. We also know that the Aztecs have an established pattern of recruiting failures.
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Post by azteccc on Jun 5, 2019 10:01:33 GMT -8
Evans has at least 23 offers, highly desirable wing player. Hopefully "Chris Acker is SDSU's deal maker." Excited for this summer's activities; recruiting and summer camps. I wonder if any BSU players are on the Acker train? The only thing we know for certain is that if we don’t beat 22 other schools after he cut the list to 7 and we offered late, Fire Dutcher. Oo! Hit a sore spot. Love it.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jun 5, 2019 10:02:45 GMT -8
The only thing we know for certain is that if we don’t beat 22 other schools after he cut the list to 7 and we offered late, Fire Dutcher. And if he ends up committing to us, we should immediately name Chris Acker "Head Coach in Waiting". As you imply johnnyutah, a significant percentage of basketball posters here are consistently either Chicken Little or My Little Pony. For them, Happy Medium is a foreign concept.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Jun 5, 2019 10:13:20 GMT -8
The only thing we know for certain is that if we don’t beat 22 other schools after he cut the list to 7 and we offered late, Fire Dutcher. We also know that the Aztecs have an established pattern of recruiting failures. I'm curious...are you advocating that we go after this kid knowing that we are up against top P6 schools...or that we shouldn't waste our resources trying to get this kid, knowing our past history in "over recruiting" kids that we might finish in 2nd place to a big-time program with far more resources (i.e. Ohio State, Florida, Texas Tech et al)... Is it a "recruiting failure" to come in 2nd or 3rd place on 4* or 5* recruits that every team in the country wants...or is it more of a failure to sign 2* kids that we know we can get? It seems to me that storied programs like Kentucky, Arizona and UCLA all failed to sign Jaden...are they failures as well? (it's a rhetorical question, as these schools already have a full stable of 4* & 5* recruits on their rosters)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 11:07:21 GMT -8
We also know that the Aztecs have an established pattern of recruiting failures. I'm curious...are you advocating that we go after this kid knowing that we are up against top P6 schools...or that we shouldn't waste our resources trying to get this kid, knowing our past history in "over recruiting" kids that we might finish in 2nd place to a big-time program with far more resources (i.e. Ohio State, Florida, Texas Tech et al)... Is it a "recruiting failure" to come in 2nd or 3rd place on 4* or 5* recruits that every team in the country wants...or is it more of a failure to sign 2* kids that we know we can get? It seems to me that storied programs like Kentucky, Arizona and UCLA all failed to sign Jaden...are they failures as well? (it's a rhetorical question, as these schools already have a full stable of 4* & 5* recruits on their rosters) I don’t think that any of us has enough information to make a judgement on how the recruiting resources have been, or should be, used. I’m just hoping that the coaches can successfully land more of their targets; however that happens and whoever those players might be. The Aztecs desperately needed to add interior players and prioritized and signed the Mensahs. We needed back court players and hit a home run acquiring Flynn and added a very solid grad transfer in Feagin. They were also able to get a very nice late pick up in Matt Mitchell, without whom the Aztecs would have had a huge whole at the three spot. So it isn’t like every recruiting move was an abject failure. I think that we were forced to reach on a few players in the last few years while also failing to get enough interest from sufficiently talented players to fill the roster. In past years, when the team had become what Fisher described as a program, the Aztecs were reloading with multiple players who committed during the Fall signing period. My interpretation is that these players received unconditional offers from the coaching staff and were immediately added to the team when they accepted. I’d think that the coaches could improve both on who they’ve selected as their primary targets and more importantly how they go about actually bringing them onboard. I won’t pretend to know how they should go about achieving those goals nor would I pretend to know why they fell short in the past. These men, our coaches, are some of the highest paid state employees for a reason. Their jobs are not easy and there aren’t very many people capable of performing their duties at a high level. I’m not advocating that the Aztecs exclusively focus on transfers or on HS talent. I don’t think that a four star recruit ranked in the 80’s is out of our reach. The most successful mid major programs expertly blend these kind of recruits to create and then sustain a team. This coaching staff is capable of making it happen. I think that a variety of adjustments were needed and I have every reason to believe that many have been made. Acker appears to be a perfect blend of experience and relative youth. He’s an LA guy with SoCal connections. He’s played professionally. He has head coaching experience. His defensive prowess has traveled to each of his last two stops as has his developmental abilities. If he can connect well with recruits he could be Dutcher’s home run hire. Landing this guy in particular isn’t going to make or break the program but it would be an early indicator that things are moving in the right direction.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Jun 5, 2019 14:02:27 GMT -8
What bothers me is that everyone here seems to think that recruiting is all about the appeal of the coaches. However, the is more data and suspicion that it is more about the money given to a recruit. It feels like everyone has their head in the sand because they do not want to look at the real threat. We just can not compete with the money being thrown at these players.
If you play often to a large TV audience, shoe companies want the exposure and are willing to spend. That is not us. We have to coach up lower profile players, have them stay for 4 years to maximize the training and get more exposure (and a better league).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 14:39:51 GMT -8
What bothers me is that everyone here seems to think that recruiting is all about the appeal of the coaches. However, the is more data and suspicion that it is more about the money given to a recruit. It feels like everyone has their head in the sand because they do not want to look at the real threat. We just can not compete with the money being thrown at these players. If you play often to a large TV audience, shoe companies want the exposure and are willing to spend. That is not us. We have to coach up lower profile players, have them stay for 4 years to maximize the training and get more exposure (and a better league). I get the resentment. I just don’t think that the volume of players getting paid is all that high and I don’t think that the Aztecs have much chance in landing those ultra elite recruits even in absence of pervasive payola schemes.
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Post by Den60 on Jun 5, 2019 15:38:21 GMT -8
What bothers me is that everyone here seems to think that recruiting is all about the appeal of the coaches. However, the is more data and suspicion that it is more about the money given to a recruit. It feels like everyone has their head in the sand because they do not want to look at the real threat. We just can not compete with the money being thrown at these players. If you play often to a large TV audience, shoe companies want the exposure and are willing to spend. That is not us. We have to coach up lower profile players, have them stay for 4 years to maximize the training and get more exposure (and a better league). I get the resentment. I just don’t think that the volume of players getting paid is all that high and I don’t think that the Aztecs have much chance in landing those ultra elite recruits even in absence of pervasive payola schemes. So, are you then saying we should not target those players likely to be recruited by prominent P5 schools. In the neighborhood, that would mean not recruiting players that UCLA or Arizona have targeted. I do agree when it comes to players that feel they are the "one-and -done type" though that would include Winston Shepard and Pope. Both UNLV and UCLA tried that route and neither had much success with it. Jalen never fit that mold, it was only after his RS year that he pursued the pro option and it also appears he isn't there yet. I do agree with you, surprisingly, that you prefer to get guys who will spend 4 years here. But you do routinely dismiss players who don't show enough (in your standards) their freshman year and want to pull their scholarships. Development takes time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 16:13:18 GMT -8
I get the resentment. I just don’t think that the volume of players getting paid is all that high and I don’t think that the Aztecs have much chance in landing those ultra elite recruits even in absence of pervasive payola schemes. So, are you then saying we should not target those players likely to be recruited by prominent P5 schools. In the neighborhood, that would mean not recruiting players that UCLA or Arizona have targeted. I do agree when it comes to players that feel they are the "one-and -done type" though that would include Winston Shepard and Pope. Both UNLV and UCLA tried that route and neither had much success with it. Jalen never fit that mold, it was only after his RS year that he pursued the pro option and it also appears he isn't there yet. I do agree with you, surprisingly, that you prefer to get guys who will spend 4 years here. But you do routinely dismiss players who don't show enough (in your standards) their freshman year and want to pull their scholarships. Development takes time. Not at all. I’m mostly agreeing with you. We’ve all known that players are getting paid. But even the worst offending schools aren’t paying every player. Reggie Bush, Deandre Ayton, and Chris Webber are the kinds of student athletes who get money. They aren’t paying every player on the team, in the rotation, or even in the starting lineup. Typically the $$$ has been used to convince an elite athlete to choose one moneyed storied program over another. these players were never going to choose SDSU even in a fictional clean bribery free college b-ball world.
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