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Post by MontezumasRevenge on Apr 12, 2019 21:30:22 GMT -8
Still waiting to read your plan, other than foot-stomping and complaining. No foot-stomping nor real complaining here. We're locked into the contract for one more year and then whatever happens is going to happen regardless of anything written here. Just providing rebuttals to your original claim that somehow suggesting we should not continue the home and home with USD is one of the stupidest things you've read on this board (a claim which in turn is one of the stupidest things that I've read on this board). I remember hearing a radio interview with Dutcher this past season and the host asked him directly if he thought the series should continue. His response was diplomatic but hardly enthusiastic at the prospect - basically a long winded "uhhh, we'll see." Maybe you can convince him that it's hypocritical not do so. And love him or hate him, Zeigler is as connected to the program as anyone and this article shows that the coaches actually wanted this series to end a few years ago (but didn't b/c Fowler wanted to keep it going as referenced earlier): www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-sdsu-usd-basketball-jenny-craig-20171130-story.htmlMore recently, he did an interview this past season and dropped a few more "stupid" arguments against it: 973thefansd.radio.com/blogs/gwynn-chris/aztecs-basketball-update-uts-mark-zeiglerBut again, whatever's going to happen will happen. I'm more than satisfied in knowing that the coaches aren't hung up with the silly moral and emotional arguments you cling to and that they would have no problems putting a stop to the series if/when it's feasible to do so.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 16, 2019 16:02:06 GMT -8
Nevada inks a deal to play St. Mary's at the Golden State Warriors' new $1.3 billion arena. We should lock down west coast powers: Gonzaga (KP #2) or St Mary's(KP #31). What about up & comers: Wofford, Lipscomb, Belmont, Murry St, Liberty. It seams like we end up with MEAC, SWAC and WAC games.
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Post by jdgaucho on Apr 16, 2019 16:11:52 GMT -8
Still waiting to read your plan, other than foot-stomping and complaining. No foot-stomping nor real complaining here. We're locked into the contract for one more year and then whatever happens is going to happen regardless of anything written here. Just providing rebuttals to your original claim that somehow suggesting we should not continue the home and home with USD is one of the stupidest things you've read on this board (a claim which in turn is one of the stupidest things that I've read on this board). I remember hearing a radio interview with Dutcher this past season and the host asked him directly if he thought the series should continue. His response was diplomatic but hardly enthusiastic at the prospect - basically a long winded "uhhh, we'll see." Maybe you can convince him that it's hypocritical not do so. And love him or hate him, Zeigler is as connected to the program as anyone and this article shows that the coaches actually wanted this series to end a few years ago (but didn't b/c Fowler wanted to keep it going as referenced earlier): www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-sdsu-usd-basketball-jenny-craig-20171130-story.htmlMore recently, he did an interview this past season and dropped a few more "stupid" arguments against it: 973thefansd.radio.com/blogs/gwynn-chris/aztecs-basketball-update-uts-mark-zeiglerBut again, whatever's going to happen will happen. I'm more than satisfied in knowing that the coaches aren't hung up with the silly moral and emotional arguments you cling to and that they would have no problems putting a stop to the series if/when it's feasible to do so. If SDSU decides the annual series with the Toreros is done after 2020, I'm sure UCSD will gladly take over. It would be something nice to jumpstart their Division 1 era. But will you schedule home and home series with UCSD?? That's something to consider.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Apr 17, 2019 6:46:36 GMT -8
Home and home games should only be used for quality opponents that draws TV revenue (as well as crowds). USD, no matter what their ranking does not do either.
USD holds maybe 4,000
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Post by Gundo on Apr 17, 2019 23:58:36 GMT -8
Home and home games should only be used for quality opponents that draws TV revenue (as well as crowds). USD, no matter what their ranking does not do either. USD holds maybe 4,000 I agree for any Home & Home we should secure a P6 relationship (or Strong Mid Major - Gonzaga) with revenue tied to the agreement. We have limited opportunities each year. H & H are not unlimited.
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Post by standiego on Apr 21, 2019 12:57:15 GMT -8
does not seem to be as easy as Dutcher was saying to get H and A with PAC schools
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Post by fisherville on Apr 21, 2019 18:42:15 GMT -8
SDSU can get home and homes with mid level pac 12 schools consistently. Problem is the other obligations we have in the OOC schedule, like the A-10 challenge/USD game/high profile tourney game/and the need for home games for revenue purposes. The reason we are getting all these lower level games against really bad teams is because very few schools are willing to play a 1 and done on the road.
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Post by hoobs on Apr 22, 2019 3:14:28 GMT -8
does not seem to be as easy as Dutcher was saying to get H and A with PAC schools Where / when did he say that?
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Post by azteccc on Apr 22, 2019 13:14:41 GMT -8
does not seem to be as easy as Dutcher was saying to get H and A with PAC schools Where / when did he say that? Earlier this year (well, sometime early last season) . I thought it was preposterous, but that’s the claim he made.
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Post by legkick on Apr 22, 2019 15:03:48 GMT -8
Dutcher in response to the idea of an A-10 challenge:
“We’ll do whatever the Mountain West wants us to do, in the end,” Dutcher said. “We don’t have trouble scheduling. We can play anybody in the Pac-12 home and home. The schools like Colorado State or Wyoming or San Jose State that have trouble getting games, I can understand that it gives them another guaranteed game a year.
“But it doesn’t protect us, at all.”
Not his best quote, particularly because not accurate - UCLA has never agreed to a home and home with the Aztecs. But the Aztecs have played home and homes with multiple Pac 12 schools over the years.
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Post by hoobs on Apr 22, 2019 15:43:08 GMT -8
Dutcher in response to the idea of an A-10 challenge: “We’ll do whatever the Mountain West wants us to do, in the end,” Dutcher said. “We don’t have trouble scheduling. We can play anybody in the Pac-12 home and home. The schools like Colorado State or Wyoming or San Jose State that have trouble getting games, I can understand that it gives them another guaranteed game a year.
“But it doesn’t protect us, at all.”Not his best quote, particularly because not accurate - UCLA has never agreed to a home and home with the Aztecs. But the Aztecs have played home and homes with multiple Pac 12 schools over the years. Yeah, that's absolutely some bluster & hyperbole. I feel like I recall Fisher saying things that would contradict this. Seems like an unscripted attempt at a stab at our conference mates.
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Post by standiego on Apr 23, 2019 11:19:30 GMT -8
understand priority is to try to continue to work on the recruiting by the staff . But would also be helpful for ticket holders and possible recruits to see some quality opponents on our OOC
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Post by tonatiuh on Apr 23, 2019 11:51:21 GMT -8
I understand those who are complaining about scheduling USD, but if nothing else they provide a game for us to improve our play. Even though they are 2-2 versus us the past four years. I think losing to a very good team (in a big conference) actually hurts us more in the long run.
But, your complaint here is of little value. Try forwarding it to the HC/or those who make up the schedule, and see what they say.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 28, 2019 15:34:17 GMT -8
How many throw away games will we have when UCSD goes to D-I? 1) UCSD, 2) USD, 3) San Diego Christian, 4) St.Kates, 5) Point Loma, 6)CSU San Marcos?
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Post by docmm on May 4, 2019 7:33:56 GMT -8
Pac 12 just agreed to add two more conference games to their schedules starting 2020-21 season. That means the Pac 12, Big 10 and the ACC will all be playing 20-game conference schedules. That means 41 P5 teams will have 82 less OOC games that could be scheduled with the non P5 minions of the BB world. The mountain just got steeper to climb.
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Post by aztech on May 4, 2019 11:57:57 GMT -8
Pac 12 just agreed to add two more conference games to their schedules starting 2020-21 season. That means the Pac 12, Big 10 and the ACC will all be playing 20-game conference schedules. That means 41 P5 teams will have 82 less OOC games that could be scheduled with the non P5 minions of the BB world. The mountain just got steeper to climb. I don't think it'll affect us much. Logistically speaking the Pac won't travel too far to play OOC games for the most part. San Diego is a direct destination city as is Las Vegas. However, the goats may be the ones impacted because of that.
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Post by Gundo on May 6, 2019 17:59:44 GMT -8
Duke schedules Colordao State, OOC '19-'20 at Cameron Indoor.
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Post by Gundo on May 6, 2019 19:22:31 GMT -8
Alford will open against Utah with Depth, 6 players so far.
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Post by tonatiuh on May 7, 2019 9:11:02 GMT -8
Pac 12 just agreed to add two more conference games to their schedules starting 2020-21 season. That means the Pac 12, Big 10 and the ACC will all be playing 20-game conference schedules. That means 41 P5 teams will have 82 less OOC games that could be scheduled with the non P5 minions of the BB world. The mountain just got steeper to climb. There you go, and for those who think that scheduling better P5 teams is easy just try to make out a schedule when possibly their only open dates are during times you already have scheduled! Also, like one poster has mentioned many Big Name teams are too scared to come play/lose to us at Viejas. Not much you can do about that! Even P5 teams schedule some easy teams in order to allow their team the opportunity to play better together. Everyone needs a few games like that. We have had some pretty good schedules over the years, and we don't take a back seat to any MW conference team as far as scheduling.
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Post by standiego on May 7, 2019 12:00:24 GMT -8
if MM at large bid is a goal , then getting decent OOC is quite important . Also have quality home opponents for ticket holders. Last year attendance was not good for OOC games . P5 conferences do play quality teams during conference play . Not so for MW .So must do well in OOC .
realize we have two tough games at Las Vegas T and game AT BYU .
Also that recruiting and hiring new coach is important but would be nice to hear about some decent OOC games .
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