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Post by longtimebooster on Mar 1, 2018 6:44:43 GMT -8
Sooooo ...?
Frosh of the Year.
McCoy?
Or McDaniels?
A couple weeks ago, it was McCoy by a tad.
Now that UNLV has been blasted in four straight and SDSU is on the verge of running the late-season table will McDaniels be deemed a more spectacular player than McCoy?
Discuss.
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Post by ignoranus on Mar 1, 2018 8:17:52 GMT -8
If Jalen's play continues to be great through the mgc tourney, yes, he should win. I believe that his excellent play will continue and spark/lead the team.
If unlv continues to fade, Jalen will deserve the award.
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Post by johnnyutah on Mar 1, 2018 8:42:03 GMT -8
If Jalen's play continues to be great through the mgc tourney, yes, he should win. I believe that his excellent play will continue and spark/lead the team. If unlv continues to fade, Jalen will deserve the award. They announce the awards next week...before the tournament. |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Mar 1, 2018 8:44:57 GMT -8
With UNLV's recent collapse and our ascension, McDaniels deserves the award. Plus, he'll stick around while McCoy will probably declare for the draft. However, I'd be surprised if they don't give McCoy the award, anyway.
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Post by longtimebooster on Mar 1, 2018 8:49:52 GMT -8
With UNLV's recent collapse and our ascension, McDaniels deserves the award. Plus, he'll stick around while McCoy will probably declare for the draft. However, I'd be surprised if they don't give McCoy the award, anyway. I dunno. This award is voted on by both MGC coaches and a media beat writer from each MGC outpost, correct? Everytime I hear an opposing coach talk about McDaniels or everytime I read an article about SDSU from Ft. Collins, Logan, Boise or even Vegas, they have eye-popping good things to say about McDaniels. I just don't get that same sense of buzz when it comes to McCoy. But, again, I think it's close and is probably a coin flip as to who gets the award. |
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Post by docmm on Mar 1, 2018 8:56:47 GMT -8
I think some will vote for McCoy because they think he's the better NBA prospect. And he may be but if he was really the stud, they'd hoped he would be coming out of high school that highly ranked, then he should have taken over games when they need him to do so. And he rarely if ever did. Would love to see Jalen get rewarded for busting his ass non-stop this entire season.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Mar 1, 2018 8:57:24 GMT -8
The cynic in me talking  |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Mar 1, 2018 8:59:16 GMT -8
I would be surprised if McCoy didn't get the award. I do think McDaniels has made more improvement as from Game 1 to the end of the season. McCoy gets more opportunities while McDaneils creates his own opportunities through hustle and instincts. I do think McDaniels will have the more successful NBA career.
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Post by jdaztec on Mar 1, 2018 20:35:42 GMT -8
McDaniels is just a better player. Problems McCoy was the big name starting the season. For people who really pay attention and don't just go with the flow McDaniels would be the choice.
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Post by podpeople on Mar 1, 2018 21:53:26 GMT -8
McDaniels is just a better player. Problems McCoy was the big name starting the season. For people who really pay attention and don't just go with the flow McDaniels would be the choice. There's no question who the better player is. We all know that the better player doesn't always win the awards. |
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 1, 2018 23:48:43 GMT -8
McDaniels is much more efficient.
Shooting Percentages
Player eFG%.....FT....TS%
McD... 63.2%, 82.3%, 67.4%
McC... 51.7%, 76.0%, 57.4%
McCoy rebound slightly better and blocks more shots but McDaniels has more assists, steals, and less turnovers and fouls. UNLV fans complain that McCoy is terrible defensively. McDaniels is a good defensive player.
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Post by coolaztec on Mar 2, 2018 5:57:25 GMT -8
McDaniels is much more efficient. Shooting Percentages Player eFG%.....FT....TS% McD... 63.2%, 82.3%, 67.4% McC... 51.7%, 76.0%, 57.4% McCoy rebound slightly better and blocks more shots but McDaniels has more assists, steals, and less turnovers and fouls. UNLV fans complain that McCoy is terrible defensively. McDaniels is a good defensive player. The award is for MW league games only, and I think McCoy was better Pre season. Are these full season stats? If so I wonder if Jalen looks even better? |
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 2, 2018 8:13:57 GMT -8
McDaniels is much more efficient. Shooting Percentages Player eFG%.....FT....TS% McD... 63.2%, 82.3%, 67.4% McC... 51.7%, 76.0%, 57.4% McCoy rebound slightly better and blocks more shots but McDaniels has more assists, steals, and less turnovers and fouls. UNLV fans complain that McCoy is terrible defensively. McDaniels is a good defensive player. The award is for MW league games only, and I think McCoy was better Pre season. Are these full season stats? If so I wonder if Jalen looks even better? MWC games only, with one to go. |
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Post by Xolotl on Mar 2, 2018 22:06:34 GMT -8
It comes down to the PR dept. ......coaches know
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Post by northcountymike on Mar 3, 2018 0:11:50 GMT -8
McDaniels is much more efficient. Shooting Percentages Player eFG%.....FT....TS% McD... 63.2%, 82.3%, 67.4% McC... 51.7%, 76.0%, 57.4% McCoy rebound slightly better and blocks more shots but McDaniels has more assists, steals, and less turnovers and fouls. UNLV fans complain that McCoy is terrible defensively. McDaniels is a good defensive player. I doubt "efficiency" will matter in this case. What are the "hard" stats? Points, rebounds, blocks, etc. I think that's what's going to tell the story and influence the voters. |
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Post by ron on Mar 3, 2018 5:20:49 GMT -8
How about Co-players of the year?
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Post by aztech on Mar 3, 2018 14:03:35 GMT -8
I think some will vote for McCoy because they think he's the better NBA prospect. And he may be but if he was really the stud, they'd hoped he would be coming out of high school that highly ranked, then he should have taken over games when they need him to do so. And he rarely if ever did. Would love to see Jalen get rewarded for busting his ass non-stop this entire season. McDaniels plays much bigger than he is. I don't know if he's capable of gaining weight with his frame, but he'll need to add about 50 lbs to be considered a PF at the next level. Despite his weight his strength has been near the basket. IMO with more weight he'd be unstoppable. |
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 3, 2018 14:47:00 GMT -8
McDaniels is much more efficient. Shooting Percentages Player eFG%.....FT....TS% McD... 63.2%, 82.3%, 67.4% McC... 51.7%, 76.0%, 57.4% McCoy rebound slightly better and blocks more shots but McDaniels has more assists, steals, and less turnovers and fouls. UNLV fans complain that McCoy is terrible defensively. McDaniels is a good defensive player. I doubt "efficiency" will matter in this case. What are the "hard" stats? Points, rebounds, blocks, etc. I think that's what's going to tell the story and influence the voters. You are sadly correct. All those stats depend upon pace. Points scored are only meaningful when considered with possessions used. McCoy has scored 41 more points but used and extra 60 attempts to do it. Not good for his team. |
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Post by aztecanthony on Mar 3, 2018 14:56:31 GMT -8
I doubt "efficiency" will matter in this case. What are the "hard" stats? Points, rebounds, blocks, etc. I think that's what's going to tell the story and influence the voters. You are sadly correct. All those stats depend upon pace. Points scored are only meaningful when considered with possessions used. McCoy has scored 41 more points but used and extra 60 attempts to do it. Not good for his team. I’ll taken Jaden over McCoy, add his little brother and that seals the deal big time. Especially if McCoy turns out to be 1 and done. |
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Post by northcountymike on Mar 3, 2018 15:34:13 GMT -8
You are sadly correct. All those stats depend upon pace. Points scored are only meaningful when considered with possessions used. McCoy has scored 41 more points but used and extra 60 attempts to do it. Not good for his team. I’ll taken Jaden over McCoy, add his little brother and that seals the deal big time. Especially if McCoy turns out to be 1 and done. I'll take Ja len and his little brother, Ja den, too. |
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