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Post by sdcjohnny on Dec 2, 2017 22:41:02 GMT -8
UCF finishes the season undefeated. How can they not even be mentioned for #4? The only mention of the team is that their head coach is leaving to Nebraska. Who do they get matched up against in NY6?
UCF season is the best SDSU could ever do. An Undefeated team deserves a chance to see what they can do. The playoff needs to expand to 8 or 16. How can the only undefeated team in College Football not be in the playoff? This isn't new information to anyone. It is just frustrating that this is the landscape of college football.
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Post by sdmotohead on Dec 2, 2017 22:58:19 GMT -8
UCF doesn't have a single win against a P5 school. Their OOC was not that strong. With that said, the only conceivable way a G5 school could possible make it into a playoff discussion would be for that school to build up some sort of resume over a course a 3-4 years (or more maybe) of constantly dominating P5 schools in OOC games and in an at-large bowl games, similar to what Boise did previously. Again not saying that would get them into a playoff game, but would at least get them in a discussion about the possibility of it.
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Dec 2, 2017 23:01:55 GMT -8
UCF season is the best SDSU could ever do. An Undefeated team deserves a chance to see what they can do. Nobody deserves anything. And the "playoff" isn't for the NCAA championship. It's just a group of prominent conferences who joined forces with ESPN for a made for TV event. The fact that they actually are the best teams and conferances is what really rubs G5 fans the wrong way, because the G5 could create their own playoff but know it couldn't compete.
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Post by sdcjohnny on Dec 2, 2017 23:02:23 GMT -8
If SDSU went undefeated the story would have been the same. The Stanford and Arizona State victory would have been down played.
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Post by sdcjohnny on Dec 2, 2017 23:07:06 GMT -8
Nobody deserves anything. And the "playoff" isn't for the NCAA championship. It's just a group of prominent conferences who joined forces with ESPN for a made for TV event. I agree with that statement. I think Division 1 football teams should have an opportunity if they are undefeated. Teams like Utah, Boise State, TCU (when they were G5) had been quite successful when matching up against the big bad P5 in bowl games.
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Post by Old School on Dec 2, 2017 23:21:21 GMT -8
It's all rigged guys. We're just second class citizens to the P5 world.
Oldie Out
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 23:50:07 GMT -8
A year ago, Houston had an outside chance. They were coming off of a good year, 13-1 with a New Year’s Day bowl win against Florida Stat e. They were ranked to start the season and had a challenging schedule(for the G5.) They beat Oklahoma early and were rolling. If they had finished undefeated, they could have hit the inside straight depending on the outcomes of the power 5. It’s not impossible but is improbable.
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Post by fowl on Dec 3, 2017 0:00:33 GMT -8
UCF doesn't have a single win against a P5 school. Last I checked Maryland was in the Big 10.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 3, 2017 0:27:02 GMT -8
Strength of schedule = 90. Case closed.
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Post by sdmotohead on Dec 3, 2017 0:29:30 GMT -8
UCF doesn't have a single win against a P5 school. Last I checked Maryland was in the Big 10. I stand corrected.
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Post by chris92065 on Dec 3, 2017 2:29:02 GMT -8
Ucf will lose by 30 to whoever they play.
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Post by sdsudevil on Dec 3, 2017 4:29:00 GMT -8
If we played Oregon State, EIU, and ECU, then refused to make up a game with Minnesota, would we be thinking we did enough if we were undefeated?
I think not.
That is UCF this year.
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Post by aztecalum on Dec 3, 2017 5:39:10 GMT -8
A couple of requirements for any chance for G5 to make CFP: 1). Would need to start season in top 25, worst case in top 30 2). Would need to have impressive non-conference schedule, at least two competitive P5 schools 3). Would need to go undefeated 4). Would need one of the P5 victories and conference victory to finish in CFP top 25
This could have happened this year for SDSU. It can happen in future years as we have at least two P12 teams on schedule for next several years.
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Post by fanhood on Dec 3, 2017 5:53:47 GMT -8
If SDSU went undefeated the story would have been the same. The Stanford and Arizona State victory would have been down played. If we went undefeated, we would be in the Top 10 right now.
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Post by longtimebooster on Dec 3, 2017 5:54:02 GMT -8
A year ago, Houston had an outside chance. They were coming off of a good year, 13-1 with a New Year’s Day bowl win against Florida Stat e. They were ranked to start the season and had a challenging schedule(for the G5.) They beat Oklahoma early and were rolling. If they had finished undefeated, they could have hit the inside straight depending on the outcomes of the power 5. It’s not impossible but is improbable. This. Consider this scenario from 2017. Stanford manages to beat Wazzu, instead of losing 24-21. Stanford manages to beat USC in the P12 championship gam. Stanford would be ranked in the top 8, maybe higher. SDSU is able to run the table, beating both BSU and FSU. SDSU's Penny would definitely be a lock for a Heisman finalist instead of an on-the-fence afterthought. SDSU would be ranked in the top 6, maybe higher. None of that is outside the realm of possibility. Did it happen? No. Could it? Yes. Were it to happen, the "selection committee" would have a difficult time excluding SDSU, a team that would have played and beaten several quality programs, and a team that featured one of the most dynamic players in all of college football. Of course, in the end, they'd ignore all of that, hold their noses, and leapfrog in some random B10 or SEC team. But at least a team like SDSU could make a legitimate case for inclusion. As it stands, UCF doesn't have a legit case due to its woeful schedule.
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Post by brokencurse on Dec 3, 2017 6:20:41 GMT -8
We would have to schedule and beat top SEC teams (Alabama, Auburn, Georgia) or Clemson or Ohio St. An east coast Top 5 team. The eastern half of the country doesn't care that we beat Pac-12 teams.
We beat 1 ranked team this year (Stanford). We would have to major upgrade our schedule for any real consideration.
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Post by alohaboarder on Dec 3, 2017 6:35:39 GMT -8
Last I checked Maryland was in the Big 10. I stand corrected. Maryland is not in the Big10. Yikes
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Post by incredholt on Dec 3, 2017 7:58:49 GMT -8
Maryland is not in the Big10. Yikes Ummm... yes they are.
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Post by Montezumas Revenge 88 on Dec 3, 2017 8:13:35 GMT -8
A year ago, Houston had an outside chance. They were coming off of a good year, 13-1 with a New Year’s Day bowl win against Florida Stat e. They were ranked to start the season and had a challenging schedule(for the G5.) They beat Oklahoma early and were rolling. If they had finished undefeated, they could have hit the inside straight depending on the outcomes of the power 5. It’s not impossible but is improbable. That was actually two years ago as we beat Houston (9-3) in the Las Vegas Bowl last year.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Dec 3, 2017 8:51:16 GMT -8
UCF is a pretty good team but there are several problems with the idea of them getting into the playoffs. First, you're asking for them to be considered an elite level team on par with Clemson and Alabama. And they just aren't. They don't pass the eye test, especially on defense. Second, only P5 victory was over a bad team in Maryland. And they missed a second P5 test when the Georgia Tech game was canceled because of the hurricane -- Tech didn't have that good a year but they're name brand and probably better than their record would indicate.
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