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Post by sdsu2000 on Apr 28, 2017 9:31:15 GMT -8
It's always seemed like the best location would be where the apartments are on 55th. While a stadium wouldn't fit to well in it's current layout it could definitely be graded to create a larger pad. But that would need to start moving forward soon. SDSU is already moving forward with adding 2 residence halls and a dining hall to Lot 9 the parking lot next to Chapultepec.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Apr 28, 2017 10:52:41 GMT -8
Every time Erik and I walk past that area on our way to Viejas, I suggest to him that it could be a site for a stadium. Erik will have none of it. I wonder, though. AzWm I keep saying that they would have to blow out the buildings to the north and possibly east of that site to make it work. It isn't impossible to do that, but they'd have to build replacement buildings for them somewhere else on campus as well as the stadium. That would be closer to the trolley station, so it wouldn't be a bad location at all - just difficult to pull off. It's certainly worth looking at, though, as a fall back plan. Using google earth's measurement tool, if you remove the buildings north and south of the site you would have a plot of land measuring approximately 700 x 600 assuming you build east across the roadway leading into the campus. That is enough land to shoehorn in a stadium to fit our needs. where to relocate the buildings we have removed is another matter though. Parking for any games played on weekdays would be a nightmare though. |
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Post by goaztecs on Apr 28, 2017 10:53:56 GMT -8
This has already been addressed by SDSU mentioning that Balboa Stadium is the most logical choice and worst case scenario. There are feasible ways to increase the seating there at Balboa to accommodate SDSU in the short term. Again, this is worst case scenario but they have mentioned it before. How many people can it seat? I've lived in SD for 20 years and I've never seen it. |
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Post by fanhood on Apr 28, 2017 11:01:42 GMT -8
This has already been addressed by SDSU mentioning that Balboa Stadium is the most logical choice and worst case scenario. There are feasible ways to increase the seating there at Balboa to accommodate SDSU in the short term. Again, this is worst case scenario but they have mentioned it before. How many people can it seat? I've lived in SD for 20 years and I've never seen it. I played High School football games there 18 years ago. This will not happen. |
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 28, 2017 11:59:16 GMT -8
They say that stadium bills are never more popular than the day they come out so with the crappy details of the FS plan sure to see the light of day before November I'm pretty confident at the moment that it will not pass unless SDSU starts backing it. But to answer the question at hand, the worst case scenario is theyre playing in a brand-new 33,000 seat stadium with lots of bells and whistles. Would be fine for football but a sad day for the potential of the university.
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Post by matteosandiego on Apr 28, 2017 12:09:03 GMT -8
How many people can it seat? I've lived in SD for 20 years and I've never seen it. I played High School football games there 18 years ago. This will not happen. Of course we are talking about the worst case scenario. So very very unlikely. But here's a quote from Bob Schulz, SDSU’s lead architect and associate vice president of real estate. "Schulz also said the university was considering options on its own campus and even Balboa Stadium, which is adjacent to San Diego High School." www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/land-use/sdsu-reveals-it-doesnt-need-qualcomm-stadium-land-yet/ |
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Post by aztec92 on Apr 28, 2017 13:26:16 GMT -8
This has already been addressed by SDSU mentioning that Balboa Stadium is the most logical choice and worst case scenario. There are feasible ways to increase the seating there at Balboa to accommodate SDSU in the short term. Again, this is worst case scenario but they have mentioned it before. How many people can it seat? I've lived in SD for 20 years and I've never seen it. Balboa in it's current form is tiny, even as High School Stadium go. Maybe 3k. I think Escondido has the largest High School Stadium with about 10k. I think it's bigger than any of the JCs too. |
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Post by Montezumas Revenge 88 on Apr 28, 2017 13:33:41 GMT -8
It's always seemed like the best location would be where the apartments are on 55th. While a stadium wouldn't fit to well in it's current layout it could definitely be graded to create a larger pad. But that would need to start moving forward soon. SDSU is already moving forward with adding 2 residence halls and a dining hall to Lot 9 the parking lot next to Chapultepec. Do you have a link for the new apartments? I heard there were complaints from the local community about the scope of the project and I'd like to see some of the schematics and plans for this development. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Apr 28, 2017 13:56:50 GMT -8
It's always seemed like the best location would be where the apartments are on 55th. While a stadium wouldn't fit to well in it's current layout it could definitely be graded to create a larger pad. But that would need to start moving forward soon. SDSU is already moving forward with adding 2 residence halls and a dining hall to Lot 9 the parking lot next to Chapultepec. Do you have a link for the new apartments? I heard there were complaints from the local community about the scope of the project and I'd like to see some of the schematics and plans for this development. Scroll down to the bottom and see Phase 1. It's changed a little since the report. Current discussion is two residence halls next to the existing one and a dining hall closer to 55th. There are consultants currently working on the project so I'd say it's moving forward. |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 28, 2017 13:59:53 GMT -8
It's always seemed like the best location would be where the apartments are on 55th. While a stadium wouldn't fit to well in it's current layout it could definitely be graded to create a larger pad. But that would need to start moving forward soon. SDSU is already moving forward with adding 2 residence halls and a dining hall to Lot 9 the parking lot next to Chapultepec. Do you have a link for the new apartments? I heard there were complaints from the local community about the scope of the project and I'd like to see some of the schematics and plans for this development. There are complaints about adding residence halls there? Just wait until you see what would happen if SDSU mentioned putting a stadium there. |
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Post by retiredaztec on Apr 28, 2017 14:15:23 GMT -8
32k joint use stadium. Worst case. 40k stadium where we get revenue from all events. Who cares if it is shared. Best case.
OK, here I go again with this absurd topic that just continues to tread water.....as this thread actually contemplates the idea of the demise of Aztec football, let me ONCE AGAIN reiterate what might have been....
from Wikipedia....
"Aztec Bowl hosted the San Diego State University Aztecs football team until they moved to Qualcomm Stadium in 1967. The stadium held 12,592 people at its peak and cost $500,000 to build. It was dedicated on October 3, 1936 before 7,500 people, after being completed earlier that year.
The stadium was initially supposed to be expanded to 45,000 seats but was expanded only once, to 5,000 seats in 1948".
...now as we move along to our current situation, let me just say, if Aztec football does go the way of the Dodo bird, I'm going to look at Cox Arena and go...."PU!".
I also believe the transition to move Aztec football off campus was successful in no small part because Don Coryell was the head coach and his base would have followed him anywhere. As such, looking at how the base has diminished over the following decades, I would question the wisdom of fighting so hard for a new stadium in MV if the current, and future generation, of students aren't going to make the effort to attend games if it means they have to "hoof" if to a stadium WAY off campus. And community support? Well.......
Is this post offering a solution? Hell no. I'm hard pressed on this point to imagine a solution. AGAIN, it didn't have to get to this. And assuming this does get to a ballot down the road, I'm hard pressed to imagine SDSU in a better position than it is now. Just a feeling... 
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Post by retiredaztec on Apr 28, 2017 14:25:08 GMT -8
32k joint use stadium. Worst case. 40k stadium where we get revenue from all events. Who cares if it is shared. Best case.
OK, here I go again with this absurd topic that just continues to tread water.....as this thread actually contemplates the idea of the demise of Aztec football, let me ONCE AGAIN reiterate what might have been....
from Wikipedia....
"Aztec Bowl hosted the San Diego State University Aztecs football team until they moved to Qualcomm Stadium in 1967. The stadium held 12,592 people at its peak and cost $500,000 to build. It was dedicated on October 3, 1936 before 7,500 people, after being completed earlier that year.
The stadium was initially supposed to be expanded to 45,000 seats but was expanded only once, to 5,000 seats in 1948".
...now as we move along to our current situation, let me just say, if Aztec football does go the way of the Dodo bird, I'm going to look at Cox Arena and go...."PU!".
I also believe the transition to move Aztec football off campus was successful in no small part because Don Coryell was the head coach and his base would have followed him anywhere. As such, looking at how the base has diminished over the following decades, I would question the wisdom of fighting so hard for a new stadium in MV if the current, and future generation, of students aren't going to make the effort to attend games if it means they have to "hoof" if to a stadium WAY off campus. And community support? Well.......
Is this post offering a solution? Hell no. I'm hard pressed on this point to imagine a solution. AGAIN, it didn't have to get to this. And assuming this does get to a ballot down the road, I'm hard pressed to imagine SDSU in a better position than it is now. Just a feeling...
And no, I'm not implying not preserving Aztec Bowl is the reason Aztec football may be on the clock. I'm implying the inertia on the part of the university when the Chargers were threatening to leave, not preparing and submitting a "big boy" proposal at the first opportunity may be the reason Atzec football may be for those of us "living in the past". |
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Post by matteosandiego on Apr 28, 2017 14:31:40 GMT -8
This has already been addressed by SDSU mentioning that Balboa Stadium is the most logical choice and worst case scenario. There are feasible ways to increase the seating there at Balboa to accommodate SDSU in the short term. Again, this is worst case scenario but they have mentioned it before. How many people can it seat? I've lived in SD for 20 years and I've never seen it. According to wikipedia-currently Balboa Stadium can hold 3,000 but was up to 34k at its height in the 60's. I dont know how many tens or maybe hundred(s) of thousands of dollars to build short term bleacher seating around the field. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balboa_Stadium#/media/File:Balboa_Stadium.jpgAny other high school or college stadium would be too far away in my opinion. Again, this thread asks what the worst case scenario is after PetCo park. This is it. |
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Post by Montezumas Revenge 88 on Apr 28, 2017 17:18:42 GMT -8
Do you have a link for the new apartments? I heard there were complaints from the local community about the scope of the project and I'd like to see some of the schematics and plans for this development. Scroll down to the bottom and see Phase 1. It's changed a little since the report. Current discussion is two residence halls next to the existing one and a dining hall closer to 55th. There are consultants currently working on the project so I'd say it's moving forward. Thanks 2000! |
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Post by standiego on Apr 28, 2017 17:32:42 GMT -8
Most important is to add living facilities and classrooms , so SDSU can expand the student population 5,000- 10,000 students. That brings in a good amount of money for various areas of SDSU . Winning teams and fans show up be it on campus, MV or even DT . Average to poor teams / fans don't . Great example this past year in MBB - way too many empty seats for a facility right there on campus .
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Post by myownwords on Apr 28, 2017 19:53:13 GMT -8
It's real simple. Get with Doug and renovate the q. Let Doug be the master developer. Build sdsu west. Why is this so hard? Why doesn't sdsu get on its big boy pants and fight like a man for what is theirs. Because the "Emperor" has no clothes. |
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Post by myownwords on Apr 28, 2017 19:57:26 GMT -8
I played High School football games there 18 years ago. This will not happen. Of course we are talking about the worst case scenario. So very very unlikely. But here's a quote from Bob Schulz, SDSU’s lead architect and associate vice president of real estate. "Schulz also said the university was considering options on its own campus and even Balboa Stadium, which is adjacent to San Diego High School." www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/land-use/sdsu-reveals-it-doesnt-need-qualcomm-stadium-land-yet/Wait, isn't this the same group of clowns who said they'd "never" play in a shiny new NFL stadium downtown? But now they'll play in a demolished Balboa Stadium with 3,000 high school seats--downtown? |
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Post by matteosandiego on Apr 28, 2017 21:44:12 GMT -8
Wait, isn't this the same group of clowns who said they'd "never" play in a shiny new NFL stadium downtown? But now they'll play in a demolished Balboa Stadium with 3,000 high school seats--downtown? Temporary. I feel your angst. In hindsight i wish measure C would've passed. But realistically this balboa thing is extremely unlikely. |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 28, 2017 22:04:28 GMT -8
32k joint use stadium. Worst case. 40k stadium where we get revenue from all events. Who cares if it is shared. Best case.
OK, here I go again with this absurd topic that just continues to tread water.....as this thread actually contemplates the idea of the demise of Aztec football, let me ONCE AGAIN reiterate what might have been....
from Wikipedia....
"Aztec Bowl hosted the San Diego State University Aztecs football team until they moved to Qualcomm Stadium in 1967. The stadium held 12,592 people at its peak and cost $500,000 to build. It was dedicated on October 3, 1936 before 7,500 people, after being completed earlier that year.
The stadium was initially supposed to be expanded to 45,000 seats but was expanded only once, to 5,000 seats in 1948".
...now as we move along to our current situation, let me just say, if Aztec football does go the way of the Dodo bird, I'm going to look at Cox Arena and go...."PU!".
I also believe the transition to move Aztec football off campus was successful in no small part because Don Coryell was the head coach and his base would have followed him anywhere. As such, looking at how the base has diminished over the following decades, I would question the wisdom of fighting so hard for a new stadium in MV if the current, and future generation, of students aren't going to make the effort to attend games if it means they have to "hoof" if to a stadium WAY off campus. And community support? Well.......
Is this post offering a solution? Hell no. I'm hard pressed on this point to imagine a solution. AGAIN, it didn't have to get to this. And assuming this does get to a ballot down the road, I'm hard pressed to imagine SDSU in a better position than it is now. Just a feeling...
Also, from Wikipedia--"Currently Viejas Arena (formerly Cox Arena), the school's basketball arena, sits on the site of the stadium." Aztec Bowl is gone, and it's been gone for over 20 years. It's time to move on. Still. |
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Post by MarshallU on Apr 28, 2017 22:22:35 GMT -8
Is there enough space to build a stadium on the grass area On the east side of Viejas arena? Couldn't it be funded through bond sales? there would be another student counsel meeting where they would have to discuss the fact that putting a stadium there would violate the rights of the ultimate frisbee players. |
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