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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 27, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -8
I introduce this topic with the assumption that SDSU will not be able to play in the Q indefinitely.
Of course, the worst worst case would be that SDSU might wake up one fine day to realize that they have no place to play football. But short of that, what is the worst that might conceivably happen? It seems to me that those who care nothing for SDSU football, and nothing for the fate of SDSU as an institution, might be able to take charge of the MV property for the sole purpose of building condos, restaurants, and parking lots. The Aztecs would have to look elsewhere in that case.
Were that to happen, what could SDSU do to prevent the cancellation of Aztec football? Might the school find some other place where, at the very least, it could build some sort of temporary stadium? Maybe a bare-bones stadium seating somewhere between 20K and 30K? We can easily imagine the cries that would go up were that possibility mooted by the school. The school could tell the public that such a venue would be only temporary and that the only other alternative would be program cancellation. But that would comfort the critics only if the school could make a believable case that a permanent stadium was in the works and photos of earth-moving equipment working on a new venue would be published any day now.
What if it turns out that even such a temporary solution might prove to be impractical? What happens in that case? I would think that the answer is, somehow, to get Petco Park to allow Aztec football to be played there. For how long? Who knows?
Not a good plan, but better than accepting the end of Aztec football. If you think that losing the Chargers makes San Diego look small time, imagine the humiliation of having the nation conclude that this is such a hick town that we can't even find a way to way to save our flagship college's football team!
I am, at this point, but optimistic. Hope I'm wrong.
AzWm
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 27, 2017 15:37:58 GMT -8
Worst case:
Westview high school.
Holds around 15k. Half the size of soccer city.
Best case:
Renovated q
Most likely
30k soccer stadium
5k seats on grass
3k can't see cause football players stand
And
Much higher ticket prices.
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Post by fanhood on Apr 27, 2017 16:20:47 GMT -8
32k joint use stadium. Worst case.
40k stadium where we get revenue from all events. Who cares if it is shared. Best case.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 27, 2017 16:28:05 GMT -8
Worst case: Westview high school. Holds around 15k. Half the size of soccer city. Best case: Renovated q Most likely 30k soccer stadium 5k seats on grass 3k can't see cause football players stand And Much higher ticket prices. I don't seem to have much of a sense of humor today. But, then, neither do you. Here's how I see this issue. It's no laughing matter. With the school's president half way out the door already, and with big money people who are in essence working against us, I think this program may well be in trouble. I hope we don't have to beg for permission to play at Petco, even for a season or two. But honestly, it doesn't seem to me that playing at Petco is unthinkable. Again I point out that the alternative could, conceivably, be the death of Aztec football. AzWm |
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Post by goaztecs on Apr 27, 2017 16:36:32 GMT -8
Is there enough space to build a stadium on the grass area On the east side of Viejas arena? Couldn't it be funded through bond sales?
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Post by goaztecs on Apr 27, 2017 16:38:13 GMT -8
32k joint use stadium. Worst case. 40k stadium where we get revenue from all events. Who cares if it is shared. Best case. Soccer city said they can probably make it for 33K now. yeh |
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 27, 2017 17:15:39 GMT -8
Worst case: Westview high school. Holds around 15k. Half the size of soccer city. Best case: Renovated q Most likely 30k soccer stadium 5k seats on grass 3k can't see cause football players stand And Much higher ticket prices. I don't seem to have much of a sense of humor today. But, then, neither do you. Here's how I see this issue. It's no laughing matter. With the school's president half way out the door already, and with big money people who are in essence working against us, I think this program may well be in trouble. I hope we don't have to beg for permission to play at Petco, even for a season or two. But honestly, it doesn't seem to me that playing at Petco is unthinkable. Again I point out that the alternative could, conceivably, be the death of Aztec football. AzWm I know. I am greatly concerned about the future of Aztec sports. |
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Post by MontezumasRevenge on Apr 27, 2017 17:20:35 GMT -8
Is there enough space to build a stadium on the grass area On the east side of Viejas arena? Couldn't it be funded through bond sales? Is a seating capacity of 300 people ok? If so, then yes. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 27, 2017 17:26:17 GMT -8
Is there enough space to build a stadium on the grass area On the east side of Viejas arena? Couldn't it be funded through bond sales? Every time Erik and I walk past that area on our way to Viejas, I suggest to him that it could be a site for a stadium. Erik will have none of it. I wonder, though. AzWm |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 27, 2017 18:42:55 GMT -8
Is there enough space to build a stadium on the grass area On the east side of Viejas arena? Couldn't it be funded through bond sales? Every time Erik and I walk past that area on our way to Viejas, I suggest to him that it could be a site for a stadium. Erik will have none of it. I wonder, though. AzWm I keep saying that they would have to blow out the buildings to the north and possibly east of that site to make it work. It isn't impossible to do that, but they'd have to build replacement buildings for them somewhere else on campus as well as the stadium. That would be closer to the trolley station, so it wouldn't be a bad location at all - just difficult to pull off. It's certainly worth looking at, though, as a fall back plan. |
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Post by badfish on Apr 27, 2017 19:23:50 GMT -8
Worst case? All road games for 1 season.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 27, 2017 19:50:22 GMT -8
Every time Erik and I walk past that area on our way to Viejas, I suggest to him that it could be a site for a stadium. Erik will have none of it. I wonder, though. AzWm I keep saying that they would have to blow out the buildings to the north and possibly east of that site to make it work. It isn't impossible to do that, but they'd have to build replacement buildings for them somewhere else on campus as well as the stadium. That would be closer to the trolley station, so it wouldn't be a bad location at all - just difficult to pull off. It's certainly worth looking at, though, as a fall back plan. It would take a decade or longer to get the EIR and NIMBY's lawsuits through court. Main campus is possible but not likely. |
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Post by tonatiuh on Apr 27, 2017 20:31:11 GMT -8
Is there enough space to build a stadium on the grass area On the east side of Viejas arena? Couldn't it be funded through bond sales? No, not likely because that is part of the hillside where the Old Aztec Bowl east side is. It is very narrow. Your living room probably is wider than that area. *My idea would be to take down just the upper seat section of the Q, Bring your lights down lower also, add extra field level seats in order to make them close to the field. Redo the interior, and exterior of the stadium along with snack bars, eating areas & restaurants, and of course beautiful new suites, and restrooms. All that I bet could be done at a far lower price than any completely new stadium, and you would still have seating capacity at around 50K. May be a little more, and you would be set with a custom fit stadium that would fit your needs when you do go to a larger conference without all the expense!  |
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Post by Montezumas Revenge 88 on Apr 27, 2017 22:21:24 GMT -8
Is there enough space to build a stadium on the grass area On the east side of Viejas arena? Couldn't it be funded through bond sales? Is a seating capacity of 300 people ok? If so, then yes. Exactly... |
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Post by badfish on Apr 28, 2017 4:22:36 GMT -8
Should really test Hardy Elementary for asbestos. Might be safe to tear it down just in case.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Apr 28, 2017 6:53:01 GMT -8
I introduce this topic with the assumption that SDSU will not be able to play in the Q indefinitely. Of course, the worst worst case would be that SDSU might wake up one fine day to realize that they have no place to play football. But short of that, what is the worst that might conceivably happen? It seems to me that those who care nothing for SDSU football, and nothing for the fate of SDSU as an institution, might be able to take charge of the MV property for the sole purpose of building condos, restaurants, and parking lots. The Aztecs would have to look elsewhere in that case. Were that to happen, what could SDSU do to prevent the cancellation of Aztec football? Might the school find some other place where, at the very least, it could build some sort of temporary stadium? Maybe a bare-bones stadium seating somewhere between 20K and 30K? We can easily imagine the cries that would go up were that possibility mooted by the school. The school could tell the public that such a venue would be only temporary and that the only other alternative would be program cancellation. But that would comfort the critics only if the school could make a believable case that a permanent stadium was in the works and photos of earth-moving equipment working on a new venue would be published any day now. What if it turns out that even such a temporary solution might prove to be impractical? What happens in that case? I would think that the answer is, somehow, to get Petco Park to allow Aztec football to be played there. For how long? Who knows? Not a good plan, but better than accepting the end of Aztec football. If you think that losing the Chargers makes San Diego look small time, imagine the humiliation of having the nation conclude that this is such a hick town that we can't even find a way to way to save our flagship college's football team! I am, at this point, but optimistic. Hope I'm wrong. AzWm Thank you, William, for being the adult in the room on this topic. Too many others are whistling through the graveyard. |
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Post by AztecCamera on Apr 28, 2017 7:56:06 GMT -8
Renovation of Balboa stadium and put back in natural grass and lets just play there. Screw those dirty "Soccercity investors" They don't give a crap about SDSU.
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Post by matteosandiego on Apr 28, 2017 8:21:27 GMT -8
This has already been addressed by SDSU mentioning that Balboa Stadium is the most logical choice and worst case scenario.
There are feasible ways to increase the seating there at Balboa to accommodate SDSU in the short term.
Again, this is worst case scenario but they have mentioned it before.
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 28, 2017 8:41:37 GMT -8
This has already been addressed by SDSU mentioning that Balboa Stadium is the most logical choice and worst case scenario. There are feasible ways to increase the seating there at Balboa to accommodate SDSU in the short term. Again, this is worst case scenario but they have mentioned it before. balboa stadium...puke. no parking and landlocked by downtown. |
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 28, 2017 9:22:06 GMT -8
It's real simple.
Get with Doug and renovate the q.
Let Doug be the master developer.
Build sdsu west.
Why is this so hard?
Why doesn't sdsu get on its big boy pants and fight like a man for what is theirs.
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