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Post by aztecwin on Sept 12, 2016 15:42:01 GMT -8
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Post by NCAztec82 on Sept 12, 2016 20:44:37 GMT -8
Deep article. But the writer doesn't give enough credence to the many factors that support the premise that Duterte could actually be a "Filipino version" of the Donald Trump movement in the U.S.. So many San Diegans with ties to the Philippines don't know (or more likely, don't care) about the truth behind why Duterte would call Obama "Putang Ina" or the American Ambassador a "gay son of a bitch."
As we witness the rise of nativist, Nationalist, anti-corporate, anti-establishment, politically incorrect, pro-gun, broad-shouldered, clear-eyed leaders with unshakeable support from the so-called "uneducated, working class commoners" (seen as deplorable by the globalist elite), who say things that are simultaneously perceived as shocking and humorous, with a ring of comedic truth . . . just which country are we talking about here?
The U.S. and the Philippines are historically intertwined. Their respective sovereign status has evolved to the point where comments by a new Filipino leader that, while once would be characterized as insubordinate and rude, now reveal disagreements between larger forces whose constituencies supersede their national origins. Citizens from both Republics are voicing a volcanic dichotomy between those who have been lied to for generations (and are sick of it), and those who are perpetuating the lies (and seek to preserve them).
Our job is to figure out which is which.
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 13, 2016 7:49:24 GMT -8
Deep article. But the writer doesn't give enough credence to the many factors that support the premise that Duterte could actually be a "Filipino version" of the Donald Trump movement in the U.S.. So many San Diegans with ties to the Philippines don't know (or more likely, don't care) about the truth behind why Duterte would call Obama "Putang Ina" or the American Ambassador a "gay son of a bitch." As we witness the rise of nativist, Nationalist, anti-corporate, anti-establishment, politically incorrect, pro-gun, broad-shouldered, clear-eyed leaders with unshakeable support from the so-called "uneducated, working class commoners" (seen as deplorable by the globalist elite), who say things that are simulatenously perceived as shocking and humorous, with a ring of comedic truth . . . just which country are we talking about here? The U.S. and the Philippines are historically intertwined. Their respective sovereign status has evolved to the point where comments by a new Filipino leader that, once would be characterized as insubordinate and rude, in fact reveal disagreements between larger forces whose constituencies supercede their national origins. Citizens from both Republics are voicing a volcanic dichotomy between those who have been lied to for generations (and are sick of it), and those who are perpetuating the lies (and seek to preserve them). Our job is to figure out which is which. You bring up good points and raise good questions. I think it is important to look at things from more than one perspective. I also often look into Japan/United States issues and relations from the point of view of the Japanese. I also look at Okinawa/Japan issues from both sides. I am always conflicted because I have interests and opinions about those things developed over a lifetime of involvement. Things are hardly ever as simple as they seem when looked at with only the concerns of one side taken into consideration. A long time friend who sent me this link about The Philippines has a similar outlook about The PI. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 3, 2016 14:15:28 GMT -8
Perspective; like looking through a Balut with a light!  |
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Post by aztecwin on Oct 3, 2016 18:10:30 GMT -8
Perspective; like looking through a Balut with a light! Sounds like someone with balut eating experience. Not all that clear! |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 4, 2016 14:25:44 GMT -8
You know sometimes there is nothing better than a big plate of: Chicken Adobo, Pancit, and Lumpia! |
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Post by aztecwin on Oct 4, 2016 15:57:21 GMT -8
You know sometimes there is nothing better than a big plate of: Chicken Adobo, Pancit, and Lumpia! Yes, along with many other things like milk fish and bitter melon dishes, but please spare me the balut. |
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Post by NCAztec82 on Oct 4, 2016 17:42:32 GMT -8
Almost every conversation about the P.I. leads to balut. Just like almost every conversation about politics leads to Hitler.
I just heard some alt-right radio caller say that he would revoke all passports issued to Filipinos because of DU30's comments about Obama, and the caller didn't even like Obama. His patriotism trumped his anti-globalism.
Yes, I listen to alt-right radio AND NPR.
Perspective.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 5, 2016 6:18:13 GMT -8
Maybe I should have said looking through a bottle of San Miguel? |
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Post by azteccc on Oct 5, 2016 8:55:11 GMT -8
Yes, I listen to alt-right radio AND NPR. Perspective. This is something that's always been fascinating to me, and explains to a large degree why Republicans in general refuse to compromise, or be open to views other than their own without assigning malicious intent. Daytime talk radio, dominated by Conservatives: 54% have never stepped foot in a college classroom and 51% make less than $30k per year. 27% of the audience identifies as liberal.NPR, a largely liberal outlet: 54% have at the least graduated from college and 43% make more than $75k. Only 3% of the audience is "consistently conservative".So you've got a MUCH larger group of liberals who hear what the right has to say, against a much smaller group of conservatives who choose to hear the other side. Education and income has a lot to do with the willingness to accept alternate viewpoints. |
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Post by NCAztec82 on Oct 6, 2016 5:36:17 GMT -8
Yes, I listen to alt-right radio AND NPR. Perspective. This is something that's always been fascinating to me, and explains to a large degree why Republicans in general refuse to compromise, or be open to views other than their own without assigning malicious intent. Daytime talk radio, dominated by Conservatives: 54% have never stepped foot in a college classroom and 51% make less than $30k per year. 27% of the audience identifies as liberal.NPR, a largely liberal outlet: 54% have at the least graduated from college and 43% make more than $75k. Only 3% of the audience is "consistently conservative".So you've got a MUCH larger group of liberals who hear what the right has to say, against a much smaller group of conservatives who choose to hear the other side. Education and income has a lot to do with the willingness to accept alternate viewpoints. As an Aztec alum, my only question would be: where did those numbers come from? Most internet posts fail miserably when it comes to examining premises and acknowledging preconceptions. It's frustrating, and weirdly inevitable. It doesn't have to be, I know, but as my constitutional law prof told us: "Where you end up depends on where you start." It's the only really valuable thing I came away with from USD. |
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Post by azteccc on Oct 6, 2016 6:32:22 GMT -8
This is something that's always been fascinating to me, and explains to a large degree why Republicans in general refuse to compromise, or be open to views other than their own without assigning malicious intent. Daytime talk radio, dominated by Conservatives: 54% have never stepped foot in a college classroom and 51% make less than $30k per year. 27% of the audience identifies as liberal.NPR, a largely liberal outlet: 54% have at the least graduated from college and 43% make more than $75k. Only 3% of the audience is "consistently conservative".So you've got a MUCH larger group of liberals who hear what the right has to say, against a much smaller group of conservatives who choose to hear the other side. Education and income has a lot to do with the willingness to accept alternate viewpoints. As an Aztec alum, my only question would be: where did those numbers come from? Most internet posts fail miserably when it comes to examining premises and acknowledging preconceptions. It's frustrating, and weirdly inevitable. It doesn't have to be, I know, but as my constitutional law prof told us: "Where you end up depends on where you start." It's the only really valuable thing I came away with from USD. Pew. |
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Post by NCAztec82 on Oct 6, 2016 6:41:07 GMT -8
I should add "friendship" to that USD thing.
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