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Post by aztecwin on May 7, 2016 10:55:18 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on May 7, 2016 14:35:51 GMT -8
Elements of socialism work out just great. How was my $90 a semester at SDSU in 1975 not socialism? Plus, we could bring beer into the Stadium..haha.
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Post by davdesid on May 7, 2016 14:54:11 GMT -8
Real socialism would not have required any cost.
$90 per semester in '75 was not exactly peanuts.
This current generation of little sensitive snowflakes wouldn't last a day under real socialism.
There were no "safe spaces" in the USSR.
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Post by uwphoto on May 7, 2016 15:15:19 GMT -8
Real socialism would not have required any cost. $90 per semester in '75 was not exactly peanuts. This current generation of little sensitive snowflakes wouldn't last a day under real socialism. There were no "safe spaces" in the USSR. Yea, but you could still make $90 in one day back then. It would be hard to make $3500 in one day today... (current cost). Working for one day to get a full semester at State has elements of socialism involved.
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Post by aztecwin on May 8, 2016 7:32:42 GMT -8
Elements of socialism work out just great. How was my $90 a semester at SDSU in 1975 not socialism? Plus, we could bring beer into the Stadium..haha. Well, I guess you can shape that argument many ways. The 90 bucks was a lot of money but no where near what it is today. The element of socialism that I would like to remind you of is the gradual use of students as transfer agents from government to colleges through Student Loan Programs. The cost goes up with government acting as an enabler to shackle students with huge debt problems.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on May 9, 2016 8:51:45 GMT -8
Real socialism would not have required any cost. $90 per semester in '75 was not exactly peanuts. This current generation of little sensitive snowflakes wouldn't last a day under real socialism. There were no "safe spaces" in the USSR. "Socialism" as practiced in the USSR or China is NOT socialism but a communist dictatorship. But then you already knew that.
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Post by davdesid on May 9, 2016 10:06:24 GMT -8
Real socialism would not have required any cost. $90 per semester in '75 was not exactly peanuts. This current generation of little sensitive snowflakes wouldn't last a day under real socialism. There were no "safe spaces" in the USSR. "Socialism" as practiced in the USSR or China is NOT socialism but a communist dictatorship. But then you already knew that. No, I suppose I should get you to explain the fine points of the differences. Be sure and tell us which category Venezuela falls in while you're at it. P.S. I notice your puppy dog is lifting his leg on your "like" button again. asinus asinum fricatlol
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Post by azteccc on May 9, 2016 10:41:32 GMT -8
Elements of socialism work out just great. How was my $90 a semester at SDSU in 1975 not socialism? Plus, we could bring beer into the Stadium..haha. Well, I guess you can shape that argument many ways. The 90 bucks was a lot of money but no where near what it is today. The element of socialism that I would like to remind you of is the gradual use of students as transfer agents from government to colleges through Student Loan Programs. The cost goes up with government acting as an enabler to shackle students with huge debt problems. Actually, the federal government makes roughly $40 billion per year on student loans. That would put it among the top 5 most profitable businesses in the world. If you include the GOP-preferred accounting method, that money is used to offset risks taken on by loan defaults and late payments. So, even assuming you cook the books in your favor, it is actually the interest payments from other students acting as an enabler in this socialist scheme, not the government. In as many words... You're wrong, and so is the other weird guy above.
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Post by davdesid on May 9, 2016 11:29:42 GMT -8
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Post by azteccc on May 9, 2016 12:20:18 GMT -8
I'd be very surprised if you weren't too dense to grasp this... But if you go back and read critically the article you just posted it proves exactly what i wrote. Nice try. Stultus est sicut stultus facit.
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Post by davdesid on May 9, 2016 12:52:33 GMT -8
I'd be very surprised if you weren't too dense to grasp this... But if you go back and read critically the article you just posted it proves exactly what i wrote. Nice try. Stultus est sicut stultus facit. The govt ain't makin' 40B a year on student loans, no matter how you try to spin it. And yes. stupid is as stupid does. You are living proof. (I'll be supporting whichever candidate would be most likely to jack the interest on student loans as high as possible.)
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Post by aztecwin on May 9, 2016 13:01:28 GMT -8
I'd be very surprised if you weren't too dense to grasp this... But if you go back and read critically the article you just posted it proves exactly what i wrote. Nice try. Stultus est sicut stultus facit. The govt ain't makin' 40B a year on student loans, no matter how you try to spin it. And yes. stupid is as stupid does. You are living proof. (I'll be supporting whichever candidate would be most likely to jack the interest on student loans as high as possible.) The point is not what you two are talking about here. The government providing these easy money loans allow the schools to jack up their prices leaving the students and taxpayers holding the bag. The bad idea loan program combined with the unwitting students have allowed the schools to just charge whatever the traffic would bear and a little more.
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Post by davdesid on May 9, 2016 13:02:28 GMT -8
How about you defenders of socialism tell us how Venezuela is either a swell place, or it is just not really socialist.
Do they provide "snowflake safe space" there?
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Post by davdesid on May 9, 2016 13:07:25 GMT -8
The govt ain't makin' 40B a year on student loans, no matter how you try to spin it. And yes. stupid is as stupid does. You are living proof. (I'll be supporting whichever candidate would be most likely to jack the interest on student loans as high as possible.) The point is not what you two are talking about here. The government providing these easy money loans allow the schools to jack up their prices leaving the students and taxpayers holding the bag. The bad idea loan program combined with the unwitting students have allowed the schools to just charge whatever the traffic would bear and a little more. Of course, you are right. It's just that the twerp has a deep interest in the student loan program, and could be indebted for many years. I sure hope so, anyway.
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Post by azteccc on May 9, 2016 13:11:42 GMT -8
The point is not what you two are talking about here. The government providing these easy money loans allow the schools to jack up their prices leaving the students and taxpayers holding the bag. The bad idea loan program combined with the unwitting students have allowed the schools to just charge whatever the traffic would bear and a little more. Of course, you are right. It's just that the twerp has a deep interest in the student loan program, and could be indebted for many years. I sure hope so, anyway. Nah, mine are indexed to salary and then forgiven tax free after 10 years... Stew on that. edit: 10 years total, only 5 or 6 to go. Should be a nice little 50k write off the books after my public service is completed.
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Post by aztecwin on May 9, 2016 13:16:31 GMT -8
Of course, you are right. It's just that the twerp has a deep interest in the student loan program, and could be indebted for many years. I sure hope so, anyway. Nah, mine are indexed to salary and then forgiven tax free after 10 years... Stew on that. edit: 10 years total, only 5 or 6 to go. Should be a nice little 50k write off the books after my public service is completed. Just another scupper lip liberal who has got the taxpayers to shoulder the load?
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Post by azteccc on May 9, 2016 13:17:39 GMT -8
Nah, mine are indexed to salary and then forgiven tax free after 10 years... Stew on that. edit: 10 years total, only 5 or 6 to go. Should be a nice little 50k write off the books after my public service is completed. Just another scupper lip liberal who has got the taxpayers to shoulder the load? I would imagine it is similar to taking two government pensions, but I wouldn't know for sure. Thank you for shouldering the load!
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Post by tuff on May 9, 2016 15:13:09 GMT -8
I think people who aspire to this becoming a socialist country, should go live in one for four years then come back and spout their $#!+. It's always the losers who want the free ride.
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Post by aztecwin on May 10, 2016 8:35:11 GMT -8
Just another scupper lip liberal who has got the taxpayers to shoulder the load? I would imagine it is similar to taking two government pensions, but I wouldn't know for sure. Thank you for shouldering the load! Please tell me you know the difference between working for over 45 years to earn a retirement and just sticking the tax payers with a bad debt. I do understand lashing out when you have no answer.
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Post by azson on May 13, 2016 12:51:19 GMT -8
"Socialism" as practiced in the USSR or China is NOT socialism but a communist dictatorship. But then you already knew that. No, I suppose I should get you to explain the fine points of the differences. Be sure and tell us which category Venezuela falls in while you're at it. P.S. I notice your puppy dog is lifting his leg on your "like" button again.asinus asinum fricatlol Aww, are you feeling left out? I tried to activate your button, but apparently fecal matter doesn't have the same effect.
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