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Post by aztec70 on Nov 4, 2010 7:35:43 GMT -8
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Post by waztec on Nov 6, 2010 8:21:45 GMT -8
Twenty years working in DOD leads me to believe that waste occurs in defense too. The biggest problem they have is the one endemic to all military operations. That is too much money is spent preparing for the last battle. |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 6, 2010 12:37:49 GMT -8
There is plenty of waste in DOD but there are too many folks protecting that waste for various reasons. There is much easier "low hanging fruit" to go after first. Start with elimination of Dept of Education and other entire programs not provided for in the Constitution and then get DOD waste.
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Post by waztec on Nov 6, 2010 14:06:54 GMT -8
There is plenty of waste in DOD but there are too many folks protecting that waste for various reasons. There is much easier "low hanging fruit" to go after first. Start with elimination of Dept of Education and other entire programs not provided for in the Constitution and then get DOD waste. How do you respond to a person who wants to eliminate the department of Education? Not provided for in the Constitution. . . . If we took the constitution verbatim, you would still be leading a donkey to the public well to draw water. I know that you are an intelligent man, but do you ever think critically about what your people are saying to you?  |
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Post by ptsdthor on Nov 6, 2010 14:31:37 GMT -8
There is plenty of waste in DOD but there are too many folks protecting that waste for various reasons. There is much easier "low hanging fruit" to go after first. Start with elimination of Dept of Education and other entire programs not provided for in the Constitution and then get DOD waste. How do you respond to a person who wants to eliminate the department of Education? Not provided for in the Constitution. . . . If we took the constitution verbatim, you would still be leading a donkey to the public well to draw water. I know that you are an intelligent man, but do you ever think critically about what your people are saying to you? What the Department of Education has done to elevate the quality of education in this country is on par with what the Department of Energy has done to make our nation energy independent. Since their inceptions, both have failed their charter. I know, I know...... if we can just give them a bit more tax payer funding, they could turn the corner and really do a good job....  |
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Post by waztec on Nov 6, 2010 15:14:19 GMT -8
How do you respond to a person who wants to eliminate the department of Education? Not provided for in the Constitution. . . . If we took the constitution verbatim, you would still be leading a donkey to the public well to draw water. I know that you are an intelligent man, but do you ever think critically about what your people are saying to you? What the Department of Education has done to elevate the quality of education in this country is on par with what the Department of Energy has done to make our nation energy independent. Since their inceptions, both have failed their charter. I know, I know...... if we can just give them a bit more tax payer funding, they could turn the corner and really do a good job.... My views on education would surprise you. But I will say that charter schools (shown to be mediocre at best) and private education are not the answers. I did the private school thing. Eliminating the Department of Education is not the way to do it. But that's not your real goal is it? Your goal is to pay no taxes. You are indifferent to what is cut, other than defense, just so you have to contribute less. |
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Post by davdesid on Nov 6, 2010 15:48:24 GMT -8
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Post by davdesid on Nov 6, 2010 16:04:50 GMT -8
OBTW, JYP....
My millionaire aunt passed away in September. Good timing. No estate tax.
Oh, I won't be getting a nickel, and I knew that. Her estate is going to The University of California, San Francisco as an endowment for her late son (my cousin) for medical research.
I think it is wonderful that she could direct her assets to a cause she believed in, instead of having any of it go to a bunch of filthy politicians who would turn it into earmarks designed to buy votes for their re-election campaigns.
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Post by waztec on Nov 7, 2010 7:32:57 GMT -8
OBTW, JYP.... My millionaire aunt passed away in September. Good timing. No estate tax. Oh, I won't be getting a nickel, and I knew that. Her estate is going to The University of California, San Francisco as an endowment for her late son (my cousin) for medical research. I think it is wonderful that she could direct her assets to a cause she believed in, instead of having any of it go to a bunch of filthy politicians who would turn it into earmarks designed to buy votes for their re-election campaigns. Gee, I am sorry to hear about your loss. I can tell from your post that she was a class act. I know that she will live on in your respectful remembrance of her. If we have filthy politicians, it is our own fault. I for one am not represented by a Republican anywhere, with the exception of R. McKenna, who has at least demonstrated some ability to think. So, there are no filthy politicians, or Aqua Buddhas representing me. Better for them, I think. I am pretty opinionated and I would be (respectfully of course) in the face of any conservative responsible for representing me. |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 7, 2010 8:09:55 GMT -8
There is plenty of waste in DOD but there are too many folks protecting that waste for various reasons. There is much easier "low hanging fruit" to go after first. Start with elimination of Dept of Education and other entire programs not provided for in the Constitution and then get DOD waste. How do you respond to a person who wants to eliminate the department of Education? Not provided for in the Constitution. . . . If we took the constitution verbatim, you would still be leading a donkey to the public well to draw water. I know that you are an intelligent man, but do you ever think critically about what your people are saying to you? Who are "my people"? Just what does the Dept of Education provide to us here in San Diego that could not be done cheaper and better locally? What do unfunded mandates to adhere to formulated with national rather than local interests do for us? How do you respond to a person willing to run his hard earned money through the huge Federal Bureaucracy than let it work locally? |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 7, 2010 8:12:14 GMT -8
OBTW, JYP.... My millionaire aunt passed away in September. Good timing. No estate tax. Oh, I won't be getting a nickel, and I knew that. Her estate is going to The University of California, San Francisco as an endowment for her late son (my cousin) for medical research. I think it is wonderful that she could direct her assets to a cause she believed in, instead of having any of it go to a bunch of filthy politicians who would turn it into earmarks designed to buy votes for their re-election campaigns. That is great! That is the way it should be! |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 7, 2010 8:36:54 GMT -8
Very telling graphic! Has anything Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown started or done been successful when compared with alternative choices? I can't think of anything positive about our new Governor. |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 7, 2010 8:41:01 GMT -8
I think it is wonderful that she could direct her assets to a cause she believed in, instead of having any of it go to a bunch of filthy politicians who would turn it into earmarks designed to buy votes for their re-election campaigns. Sorry to hear about your loss. Glad to hear that she gave it to a good cause. Most don't. It oughtta go to the military. I see no rational reason to not let your personal weath go to here you want it to go. Now I know that your "oughta go to the military" is a troll, but I have to ask you about it. Should it go directly to the military to buy $800 hammers or should it be filtered through the Federal Goverment so that the $800 hammer would cost $1200?  |
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Post by waztec on Nov 7, 2010 9:00:44 GMT -8
How do you respond to a person who wants to eliminate the department of Education? Not provided for in the Constitution. . . . If we took the constitution verbatim, you would still be leading a donkey to the public well to draw water. I know that you are an intelligent man, but do you ever think critically about what your people are saying to you? Who are "my people"? Just what does the Dept of Education provide to us here in San Diego that could not be done cheaper and better locally? What do unfunded mandates to adhere to formulated with national rather than local interests do for us? How do you respond to a person willing to run his hard earned money through the huge Federal Bureaucracy than let it work locally? Well, since the DOD school system is the best in the nation I would question your statement that the Federal can't assist in education. You rail against an entity that has been good to you (And in truth you to it, with your military service). I do not understand how you can justify incompetence in an organization of which you were a part. |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 7, 2010 9:26:52 GMT -8
Who are "my people"? Just what does the Dept of Education provide to us here in San Diego that could not be done cheaper and better locally? What do unfunded mandates to adhere to formulated with national rather than local interests do for us? How do you respond to a person willing to run his hard earned money through the huge Federal Bureaucracy than let it work locally? Well, since the DOD school system is the best in the nation I would question your statement that the Federal can't assist in education. You rail against an entity that has been good to you (And in truth you to it, with your military service). I do not understand how you can justify incompetence in an organization of which you were a part. The DOD schools that I saw were all good. That was only in Japan. I spent a good portion of my working life trying to change the way we wasted money. When I made the decisions about how to spend our year end money in order to protect our next years budget, I made sure I bought things that we really needed and things that would not become obsolete or be lost. That means no computers or software when we had much better equipment than we really needed or used to its capacity as it was. It was an exercise that presented huge moral problems for a Conservative so I always thought about how to avoid those things. What if we went to longer term budgets? What if your organization were able to put it's excess to work in interest bearing investments to help off set future budget requirements? We would have to really change things among Federal workers and their leaders. It will never happen, but there are ideas and people within government that think "outside the box" and do have taxpayers interest in mind. |
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Post by waztec on Nov 7, 2010 9:41:28 GMT -8
Well, since the DOD school system is the best in the nation I would question your statement that the Federal can't assist in education. You rail against an entity that has been good to you (And in truth you to it, with your military service). I do not understand how you can justify incompetence in an organization of which you were a part. The DOD schools that I saw were all good. That was only in Japan. I spent a good portion of my working life trying to change the way we wasted money. When I made the decisions about how to spend our year end money in order to protect our next years budget, I made sure I bought things that we really needed and things that would not become obsolete or be lost. That means no computers or software when we had much better equipment than we really needed or used to its capacity as it was. It was an exercise that presented huge moral problems for a Conservative so I always thought about how to avoid those things. What if we went to longer term budgets? What if your organization were able to put it's excess to work in interest bearing investments to help off set future budget requirements? We would have to really change things among Federal workers and their leaders. It will never happen, but there are ideas and people within government that think "outside the box" and do have taxpayers interest in mind. "We would have to really change things among Federal workers. . ." I was a federal worker in DOD as you well know. So why don't you tell me just how should I have changed things, sailor fella? |
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Post by aztec70 on Nov 7, 2010 12:45:04 GMT -8
OBTW, JYP.... My millionaire aunt passed away in September. Good timing. No estate tax. Oh, I won't be getting a nickel, and I knew that. Her estate is going to The University of California, San Francisco as an endowment for her late son (my cousin) for medical research. I think it is wonderful that she could direct her assets to a cause she believed in, instead of having any of it go to a bunch of filthy politicians who would turn it into earmarks designed to buy votes for their re-election campaigns. None of your Aunt's estatewould have gone for estate tax in any year. There is an unlimited exemption estate tax for gifts to charity. It is wonderful that she can direct her estate to a cause she bleieved in. It has always been that way. Your post is pointless. |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 7, 2010 14:25:41 GMT -8
The DOD schools that I saw were all good. That was only in Japan. I spent a good portion of my working life trying to change the way we wasted money. When I made the decisions about how to spend our year end money in order to protect our next years budget, I made sure I bought things that we really needed and things that would not become obsolete or be lost. That means no computers or software when we had much better equipment than we really needed or used to its capacity as it was. It was an exercise that presented huge moral problems for a Conservative so I always thought about how to avoid those things. What if we went to longer term budgets? What if your organization were able to put it's excess to work in interest bearing investments to help off set future budget requirements? We would have to really change things among Federal workers and their leaders. It will never happen, but there are ideas and people within government that think "outside the box" and do have taxpayers interest in mind. "We would have to really change things among Federal workers. . ." I was a federal worker in DOD as you well know. So why don't you tell me just how should I have changed things, sailor fella? Hard for me to say. I have no idea what level you were at and what control you had over spending. I think you said that you worked in the NEX organization, but don't remember the level. I think your job was in a non-appropriated fund activity and therefore not subject to nor really cognizant of the responsibility to care about tax payers. Is that right? |
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Post by davdesid on Nov 7, 2010 14:41:10 GMT -8
OBTW, JYP.... My millionaire aunt passed away in September. Good timing. No estate tax. Oh, I won't be getting a nickel, and I knew that. Her estate is going to The University of California, San Francisco as an endowment for her late son (my cousin) for medical research. I think it is wonderful that she could direct her assets to a cause she believed in, instead of having any of it go to a bunch of filthy politicians who would turn it into earmarks designed to buy votes for their re-election campaigns. None of your Aunt's estatewould have gone for estate tax in any year. There is an unlimited exemption estate tax for gifts to charity. It is wonderful that she can direct her estate to a cause she bleieved in. It has always been that way. Your post is pointless. No, it isn't pointless. Exemption or not; none of it will be going to the greedy politicians to use to buy votes for themselves. That's the point, and I'm mighty gleeful about it. |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 7, 2010 15:17:10 GMT -8
None of your Aunt's estatewould have gone for estate tax in any year. There is an unlimited exemption estate tax for gifts to charity. It is wonderful that she can direct her estate to a cause she bleieved in. It has always been that way. Your post is pointless. No, it isn't pointless. Exemption or not; none of it will be going to the greedy politicians to use to buy votes for themselves. That's the point, and I'm mighty gleeful about it. It is a very good point and we should all pick up on the idea that there should be exemptions for everyone regardless of where you will you estate. |
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