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Post by retiredaztec on Nov 30, 2015 21:50:58 GMT -8
We did not get Bowls because we could not sell tickets. Nothing has changed. No new stadium with out people who will sit in them. Our weak fan base is our problem. Every thing else has kept up. Yes, this is an amazing story if the Aztecs find themselves in the Cactus Bowl because of an existing agreement. (I wonder if the AAC existed when this agreement was made). A chance at a 3 million dollar payday and a national stage is about as good as it gets. Hopefully, the community will express the same excitement as those on this board. The team has earned it. Win out.
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Post by namssa on Nov 30, 2015 22:04:27 GMT -8
Right! What a brilliant move by Thompson to secure the MWC as a backup to the Cactus Bowl should the PAC-12 or Big12 not fill. Looks like its going to pay dividends this year for us.
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Post by 94sdsu on Nov 30, 2015 23:13:57 GMT -8
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Post by AztecFire on Nov 30, 2015 23:19:06 GMT -8
A fellow Aztec on Facebook e-mailed the communications manager at the Cactus Bowl to ask if a 5-7 Big 12 team would be chosen over the MWC champion, if the NCAA grants bowl eligiblity to 5-7 teams (which they did)...here is the response the Aztec received:
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Post by 94sdsu on Nov 30, 2015 23:18:43 GMT -8
It's been stated multiple times here and in print that a 5-7 Big XII team CANNOT be selected over a winning MWC team (ie, SDSU). Besides it's widely held that the Cactus Bowl covets the Aztecs. Relax, State will land an advantageous bowl berth especially if they win the CCG. Where is it officially written that the Cactus can't take a 5-7 B12 team over a winning MWC team? I'd like to see that.
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Post by 94sdsu on Nov 30, 2015 23:21:52 GMT -8
Interesting. We'll see what happens with Mr. Rogers opinion that the bowl won't take a 5-7 B12 team over a MWC team once the B12 starts putting pressure on him.
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Post by retiredaztec on Nov 30, 2015 23:23:45 GMT -8
A fellow Aztec on Facebook e-mailed the communications manager at the Cactus Bowl to ask if a 5-7 Big 12 team would be chosen over the MWC champion, if the NCAA grants bowl eligiblity to 5-7 teams (which they did)...here is the response the Aztec received: Ok, so what I'm reading here is if the Aztecs beat AFA and BYU goes to Hawaii then the Aztecs go to the Vegas Bowl and AFA goes to the Copper, oops, Cactus?! Gett'n surreal guys....
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Post by retiredaztec on Nov 30, 2015 23:33:58 GMT -8
A fellow Aztec on Facebook e-mailed the communications manager at the Cactus Bowl to ask if a 5-7 Big 12 team would be chosen over the MWC champion, if the NCAA grants bowl eligiblity to 5-7 teams (which they did)...here is the response the Aztec received: Ok, so what I'm reading here is if the Aztecs beat AFA and BYU goes to Hawaii then the Aztecs go to the Vegas Bowl and AFA goes to the Copper, oops, Cactus?! Gett'n surreal guys.... Nevermind, off another thread... www.bringonthecats.com/2015/11/30/9822612/kansas-state-officially-bowl-eligible-per-ncaaSo if a 5-7 KSU goes to the Cactus Bowl and BYU goes to the Vegas Bowl, State is F**KED.
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Post by 94sdsu on Nov 30, 2015 23:50:54 GMT -8
A fellow Aztec on Facebook e-mailed the communications manager at the Cactus Bowl to ask if a 5-7 Big 12 team would be chosen over the MWC champion, if the NCAA grants bowl eligiblity to 5-7 teams (which they did)...here is the response the Aztec received: Hey Marching Aztec, have you buddy contact Mr. Rogers again and ask him about this...www.bringonthecats.com/2015/11/30/9822612/kansas-state-officially-bowl-eligible-per-ncaa
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Post by aztecmouse on Nov 30, 2015 23:53:31 GMT -8
Wait, my understanding of it is that they're bowl eligible but only after all other bowl eligible teams with at least 6 wins get their spot meaning that SDSU would get the first crack at the Cactus Bowl. If this not correct?
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Post by retiredaztec on Dec 1, 2015 6:45:16 GMT -8
Wait, my understanding of it is that they're bowl eligible but only after all other bowl eligible teams with at least 6 wins get their spot meaning that SDSU would get the first crack at the Cactus Bowl. If this not correct? For one, I have NO IDEA what is going on here. Is this an attempt to keep a MW team out of a high profile, high payday bowl game? Is all this talk about "open arms" bullsh*t? Look, this doesn't change my personal opinion of Rocky Long, and yes, this whole thing did require tumblers falling in place for all this to happen, (a weak B12 and BYU going to HNL). But the fact is, regardless of how I feel about the Aztec's 2015 quality of schedule, (saddled in a truly weak conference, getting past the non-conference schedule), the program made the most of it. We've reached the level of absurdity to think a 5-7 team could go bowling before MW Champion State, or AFA. But just as absurd is the notion that if State defeats AFA, they will be going to the Vegas Bowl, (again, the BYU thing), and AFA would go to the Copper Bowl. One thing I do believe is there is just too many bowl games. And I'm $upposed to take all this $eriou$ly?
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Post by Boise Aztec on Dec 1, 2015 6:47:40 GMT -8
Again, people need to chill. 1. OU will be in the Final Four 2. Baylor or TCU will be in the Sugar bowl. 3. If KSU wins on Saturday the Big12 will have 7 eligible for 8 spots. 4. The only other Big12 team that could even get to 5-7 is Texas and they would have to win at Baylor. 5. Chance that both KSU And Texas win on Saturday is 2.5% 6. MWC has a backup tie in for the Cactus Bowl which has said it wants SDSU, especially after we win on Saturday. SDSU will be in Phoenix in 1/2/2016 playing in the Cactus Bowl. So nothing has changed, except we now know that there will only be 7 bowl eligible teams from the Big12 and they will likley need 8 teams with OU locked into the Final Four.
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Post by retiredaztec on Dec 1, 2015 7:11:37 GMT -8
Again, people need to chill. 1. OU will be in the Final Four 2. Baylor or TCU will be in the Sugar bowl. 3. If KSU wins on Saturday the Big12 will have 7 eligible for 8 spots. 4. The only other Big12 team that could even get to 5-7 is Texas and they would have to win at Baylor. 5. Chance that both KSU And Texas win on Saturday is 2.5% 6. MWC has a backup tie in for the Cactus Bowl which has said it wants SDSU, especially after we win on Saturday. SDSU will be in Phoenix in 1/2/2016 playing in the Cactus Bowl. So nothing has changed, except we now know that there will only be 7 bowl eligible teams from the Big12 and they will likley need 8 teams with OU locked into the Final Four. We'll $ee. I still don't understand or comprehend how the Copper Bowl, which claims to want SDSU will have any say if the Aztecs beat AFA and are awarded the MW Champion slot in the Vega$ Bowl. I'll just stick with hockey.
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Post by namssa on Dec 1, 2015 7:43:49 GMT -8
Vegas is going to take BYU this year which will open up a spot for the MWC champs. I'm sure there is a lot of backroom discussions on where to place that champions. Sounds like Cactus can and will take SDSU. Kansas State could be in the Heart of Dallas Bowl which is also a Big 12 bowl (7th choice to Cactus's 6th). We'll see.
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Post by namssa on Dec 1, 2015 7:49:38 GMT -8
There is also the Foster Farms Bowl in Santa Clara (in the 49ers stadium) against a Pac-12 team (likely UCLA or USC) that might be available as well. Worse case scenario would be the Arizona Bowl against likely Arizona or Arizona State on December 29. I'm confident SDSU will land in a good bowl.
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Post by retiredaztec on Dec 1, 2015 7:59:14 GMT -8
Vegas is going to take BYU this year which will open up a spot for the MWC champs. I'm sure there is a lot of backroom discussions on where to place that champions. Sounds like Cactus can and will take SDSU. Kansas State could be in the Heart of Dallas Bowl which is also a Big 12 bowl (7th choice to Cactus's 6th). We'll see. One last thing. Tumblers fall in place and this involves a P5 opponent, (as I assume it will), PLEASE don't become a U of Hawaii, 2008. Regardless of the money, this is not the kind of pub the Aztecs need.
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Post by mnico213 on Dec 1, 2015 8:25:06 GMT -8
Interesting. We'll see what happens with Mr. Rogers opinion that the bowl won't take a 5-7 B12 team over a MWC team once the B12 starts putting pressure on him. I like to think that the person who responded to him is former Ms. South Carolina Ali Rogers and not a "Mr. Rogers."
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Post by sdcoug on Dec 1, 2015 10:36:19 GMT -8
A fellow Aztec on Facebook e-mailed the communications manager at the Cactus Bowl to ask if a 5-7 Big 12 team would be chosen over the MWC champion, if the NCAA grants bowl eligiblity to 5-7 teams (which they did)...here is the response the Aztec received: Wow. That seems pretty clear, and great to read. We need WVU to beat KSU, plain & simple.
It really comes down to whether Foster Farms or the Cactus have to or will take a 5-7 contracted conference team over a 9-4/10-3 team, and Ali Rogers has made it apparent they have no intention of taking a 5-7 team. Hopefully Mr. Communications Manager with the Foster Farms bowl feels exactly the same way. Smart.
Thanks for sharing that.
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Post by legkick on Dec 1, 2015 11:21:28 GMT -8
Wow. That seems pretty clear, and great to read. We need WVU to beat KSU, plain & simple. It really comes down to whether Foster Farms or the Cactus have to or will take a 5-7 contracted conference team over a 9-4/10-3 team, and Ali Rogers has made it apparent they have no intention of taking a 5-7 team. Hopefully Mr. Communications Manager with the Foster Farms bowl feels exactly the same way. Smart. Thanks for sharing that. I wish I shared your confidence. Rogers got one thing blatantly wrong - a team does not need 6 wins to become bowl eligible, at least not this year. Getting that wrong, I have little confidence that Rogers is correct in asserting or otherwise implying that the Cactus Bowl has any choice in refusing a "bowl eligible" 5 win Big-12 team. I'd much rather see the language in the agreement between the Big-12 and Cactus Bowl.
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Post by Montezumas Revenge 88 on Dec 1, 2015 11:32:57 GMT -8
Wow. That seems pretty clear, and great to read. We need WVU to beat KSU, plain & simple. It really comes down to whether Foster Farms or the Cactus have to or will take a 5-7 contracted conference team over a 9-4/10-3 team, and Ali Rogers has made it apparent they have no intention of taking a 5-7 team. Hopefully Mr. Communications Manager with the Foster Farms bowl feels exactly the same way. Smart. Thanks for sharing that. I wish I shared your confidence. Rogers got one thing blatantly wrong - a team does not need 6 wins to become bowl eligible, at least not this year. Getting that wrong, I have little confidence that Rogers is correct in asserting or otherwise implying that the Cactus Bowl has any choice in refusing a "bowl eligible" 5 win Big-12 team. I'd much rather see the language in the agreement between the Big-12 and Cactus Bowl. She wasn't saying that a team needed to be 5-7 or 6-6 to become bowl eligible, she specifically said that the Cactus Bowl (WOULD NOT) choose a 5-7 team over a top placed Mountain West team who is already eligible! jeeez.....
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