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Post by AztecWilliam on Nov 18, 2015 17:32:34 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 19, 2015 8:48:30 GMT -8
One thing we seem to ignore is that until Islam digs in and polices and protects its own we will have this problem. Not all Muslims are at fault but until they get proactive in a solution then we should just keep them all out.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Nov 19, 2015 14:45:57 GMT -8
There is a HUGE difference between the Muslim populations in Europe and the U.S. These differences have to do with geography, the political make up of Europe, and the nature of the emigrant. Geography can be differentiated just by a look at a map. It is much much harder for anyone let alone anybody who has to walk to get to the U.S. The political make up of Europe is that of the EU. Once you are in a EU country you can travel anywhere within the EU without the need of a visa, etc. All of the people who committed the attacks in Paris were citizens of either Belgium or France. None of them were refugees from Syria. Most of the large Muslim population in Europe originates from countries that were at one time European colonies and have passports issued from those colonial countries. Anyone entering the U.S. must obtain a visa first.
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Post by thepapacy on Nov 19, 2015 20:04:16 GMT -8
There is a HUGE difference between the Muslim populations in Europe and the U.S. These differences have to do with geography, the political make up of Europe, and the nature of the emigrant. Geography can be differentiated just by a look at a map. It is much much harder for anyone let alone anybody who has to walk to get to the U.S. The political make up of Europe is that of the EU. Once you are in a EU country you can travel anywhere within the EU without the need of a visa, etc. All of the people who committed the attacks in Paris were citizens of either Belgium or France. None of them were refugees from Syria. Most of the large Muslim population in Europe originates from countries that were at one time European colonies and have passports issued from those colonial countries. Anyone entering the U.S. must obtain a visa first. islamophobes don't care. racists gonna race.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Nov 19, 2015 23:44:42 GMT -8
There is a HUGE difference between the Muslim populations in Europe and the U.S. These differences have to do with geography, the political make up of Europe, and the nature of the emigrant. Geography can be differentiated just by a look at a map. It is much much harder for anyone let alone anybody who has to walk to get to the U.S. The political make up of Europe is that of the EU. Once you are in a EU country you can travel anywhere within the EU without the need of a visa, etc. All of the people who committed the attacks in Paris were citizens of either Belgium or France. None of them were refugees from Syria. Most of the large Muslim population in Europe originates from countries that were at one time European colonies and have passports issued from those colonial countries. Anyone entering the U.S. must obtain a visa first. islamophobes don't care. racists gonna race. Seriously, you really think that only Islamophobes are concerned about Islamist terrorism? Seriously? As for the question of race, please keep in mind that Muslims from North Africa and the Middle East are overwhelmingly Caucasian. Muslims from the Far East and Sub-Saharan Africa (at any rate the vast majority of them in both cases) are not Caucasian. In fact there are Muslims of all races, just as there are Christians of all races. Also, as far too many people do not know, Arabs are Semitic. The term "racist" is all to often used in cases in which ethnicity rather than race is the key element. AzWm
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 20, 2015 8:14:39 GMT -8
islamophobes don't care. racists gonna race. Seriously, you really think that only Islamophobes are concerned about Islamist terrorism? Seriously? As for the question of race, please keep in mind that Muslims from North Africa and the Middle East are overwhelmingly Caucasian. Muslims from the Far East and Sub-Saharan Africa (at any rate the vast majority of them in both cases) are not Caucasian. In fact there are Muslims of all races, just as there are Christians of all races. Also, as far too many people do not know, Arabs are Semitic. The term "racist" is all to often used in cases in which ethnicity rather than race is the key element. AzWm It does seem to be a bit more complicated than simply religious fanatics. Apparently, most of the Paris attackers are home grown petty thieves, partiers who used drugs and were drinkers. More like gang members than Islamists. Some of the attackers had never even read the Koran. The girl who blew herself up was considered a loser by others in the community and was radicalized in only 2 months. So, the problem appears to be more complicated than simply Islam.
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Post by tuff on Nov 20, 2015 8:56:30 GMT -8
The Shoe Bomber, the Beltway Snipers, the Fort Hood shooter, the Underwear bomber, The USS Cole bombers, the Madrid Train Bombers, the Bali Nightclub Bombers, theLondon Subway bombers, the Moscow Theatre attackers, the Boston Marathon bombers, the Pan Am Flight 93 bombers, the Air France/ Intibbe hijackers, the Libyan US Embassy attackers, the Israeli Olympic team attackers, the KenyanUS Embassy bombers, the Saudi Tower bombers, the Beirut Marine Barracks bombers, the Russian School attackers, the 1st World Trade Center bombers, the Bombay, India attackers, the Acchille Laurel attackers, the Nairibi, Kenya Shopping Mall attackers, the Iranian Embassy takeover, 9/11 Airline hijackers, the Sydney, Australia Cafe kidnappers, and the Palestine School Children killers just to name a few. We're all Muslim.
Islamic Jihad, ISIS, Al Queda, Taliban Boko Haram, Al Nuesra,Abu Sayyaf, Al Badir, Muslim Brotherhood, Lashkar-e- Taiba, Ansar Al Islam,Jama-Islamiya, Abdullah Azzan Brigade, Al Shabob-Somalia, Hamas and Hezbullahare but a few. And are all Muslim.
Islam is a problem. Islam is the problem.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Nov 20, 2015 14:23:26 GMT -8
It is unfortunate that the cons on this board have decided not to respond to the points that I brought up.
It should also be noted that, as far as I can tell, ALL terrorist attacks committed by Muslims in this country were committed by foreign nationals here on valid passports/visas, etc. Or American citizens. There have been zero attacks committed by any that have snuck across the border.
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Post by azson on Nov 20, 2015 15:20:11 GMT -8
The Shoe Bomber, the Beltway Snipers, the Fort Hood shooter, the Underwear bomber, The USS Cole bombers, the Madrid Train Bombers, the Bali Nightclub Bombers, theLondon Subway bombers, the Moscow Theatre attackers, the Boston Marathon bombers, the Pan Am Flight 93 bombers, the Air France/ Intibbe hijackers, the Libyan US Embassy attackers, the Israeli Olympic team attackers, the KenyanUS Embassy bombers, the Saudi Tower bombers, the Beirut Marine Barracks bombers, the Russian School attackers, the 1st World Trade Center bombers, the Bombay, India attackers, the Acchille Laurel attackers, the Nairibi, Kenya Shopping Mall attackers, the Iranian Embassy takeover, 9/11 Airline hijackers, the Sydney, Australia Cafe kidnappers, and the Palestine School Children killers just to name a few. We're all Muslim. Islamic Jihad, ISIS, Al Queda, Taliban Boko Haram, Al Nuesra,Abu Sayyaf, Al Badir, Muslim Brotherhood, Lashkar-e- Taiba, Ansar Al Islam,Jama-Islamiya, Abdullah Azzan Brigade, Al Shabob-Somalia, Hamas and Hezbullahare but a few. And are all Muslim. Islam is a problem. Islam is the problem. Anders Breivik, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Timothy McVeigh, Seung-Hui Cho, James Holmes, Adam Lanza… Ku Klux Klan, Medellin Drug Cartel, Irish Republican Army, Anti-Castro Group, Mormon extremists, Vietnamese Organization to Exterminate Communists and Restore the Nation, Jewish Defense League, May 19 Communist Order, Chicano Liberation Front, Jewish Armed Resistance, American Indian Movement, Gay Liberation Front, Aryan Nation, Jewish Action Movement, National Front for the Liberation of Cuba, Fourth Reich Skinheads… Yeah, I can play the cut and paste game too. Non-Muslims have carried out more than 90% of all terrorist attacks in America. Globally, less than 2 percent of terrorist attacks have committed by Muslims over the past five years. But hey, who am I/why let facts get in the way of your phobia?
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Post by tuff on Nov 22, 2015 16:36:31 GMT -8
Laughable. As a whole, the religions of the world generally live well with each other. Except muslims. Hell, muslims have a bigger problem living with each other. It seems they are not happy in their own world but want to live and be happy in other countries that are not Islamic. So who do they blame? Not Islam. Not their leaders. And not themselves. They blame the countries they are supposedly happy in. And they want to change those countries they are so called happy in to be like the $#!+ hole countries that they were not happy in.
Well, they are not going to change this country. They will either learn how to assimilate to our way of life, or go back to where they came from. They will have to learn how to play well with everyone. And until they allow and embrace the construction of churches and synogogues(sp) throughout the middle east, I don't want a damn thing to do with them and I don't want them to even have a chance of one radical goon coming here disguised as a refugee. Send them to Saudi Arabia.
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Post by azson on Nov 24, 2015 9:41:10 GMT -8
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