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Post by nonpostpete on Nov 9, 2015 8:17:22 GMT -8
This week Aztecs should get an NLI from Jalen McDaniels. With all the talk of TJ Leaf the board has been quiet about Jalen, but I think he could be a valuable player for the team over the long haul, good length and upside. Also, I consider him to be part of the same class of players who will become eligible in 2016, including Montaque Gill-Caesar, Max Hoetzel, and Nolan Narain. That is a great class of players already. If TJ Leaf joins the group, it will be an epic class. Jalen and Nolan have a good chance of sticking around and playing together for 4 years and i expect big things from both over their Aztec careers.
Anyway, my point is that we should celebrate Jalen joining the group this week, regardless of TJ Leaf's decision.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Nov 9, 2015 8:21:26 GMT -8
Jalen has a VERY high ceiling, I'm very excited about his potential
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Post by Gundo on Nov 9, 2015 11:32:38 GMT -8
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Post by nonpostpete on Nov 9, 2015 11:42:01 GMT -8
Gundo, I also saw that article before and it was confusing to me at first. However, I believe it is simply a poorly drafted article and that the quote you provided was from back when Jalen received an offer from Washington and all of the recruiting experts thought he would sign with the Huskies. You will note the quote comes after the section discussing how everyone thought he'd sign with Washington before he surprised by orally committing to Aztecs.
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Post by twobits on Nov 9, 2015 13:03:06 GMT -8
He seems like a good kid. Interested in how he progresses this year and when he gets on campus.
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Post by MarshallU on Nov 9, 2015 13:16:16 GMT -8
Gundo, I also saw that article before and it was confusing to me at first. However, I believe it is simply a poorly drafted article and that the quote you provided was from back when Jalen received an offer from Washington and all of the recruiting experts thought he would sign with the Huskies. You will note the quote comes after the section discussing how everyone thought he'd sign with Washington before he surprised by orally committing to Aztecs. here's a tip that should help you with your confusion... if the article you are reading is from a web site that starts with bleacherreport.com, just close it down without reading it. happy to help.
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Post by sdcoug on Nov 9, 2015 13:18:06 GMT -8
They're just using that quote from July to back up their statement that all the experts thought he was UW bound originally, which is true, but then they follow that up with the comments about Fisher, etc.
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Post by standiego on Nov 9, 2015 21:22:06 GMT -8
Guy wants to come to SDSU , not set a record for hitting 50 pages of posts on where he going . Could have very high ceiling , may not be the greatest talent his first year but if he is willing to learn could be very good in a few years at SDSU .
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 10, 2015 15:57:48 GMT -8
He's signing tomorrow.
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Post by Gundo on Nov 10, 2015 20:28:34 GMT -8
Understood. However, SDSU was shut out this year. Look at the schools in ESPNs top 40 recruiting class for 2016 above us outside of Blue Blood and top P5 MBB universities: Harvard #8 Auburn #9 Alabama #10 Miss State #21 UMass #25 USC #33 GA #35 Seriously, tell me did any of these schools make the NCAA tourney last year or for the last 6 years in a row. We can't land a 4-star kid and these schools do. Some multiple 4-stars? How much is the negative recruiting hurt us and is there any truth to the allegations. How about the schools we recruit against? Western Schools: UNLV #11 UCLA #12 ASU #16 Gonzaga #23 Oregon #30 USC #33 BYU #35 Texas #39 2016 IS A DARK YEAR IN AZTEC RECRUITING: No Smith, No Cage (both to Oregon), No Stanback (Stanford), No Bailey (Marquette) No Jackson (UConn), No Johnson (UNLV) & both Mathews + Melton to USC??? Cyrus (DePaul), Fraser (VCU), Bassett (FLA), Johnson (Utah), Moore (Tulane), Ekiyor (Xavier) even Fitts (USF) + Johnson and Ekiyor reclassifed to 2015 and can play in Spring. TJ LEAF? would make it 100% better.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 10, 2015 21:00:50 GMT -8
Understood. However, SDSU was shut out this year. Look at the schools in ESPNs top 40 recruiting class for 2016 above us outside of Blue Blood and top P5 MBB universities: Harvard #8 Auburn #9 Alabama #10 Miss State #21 UMass #25 USC #33 GA #35 Seriously, tell me did any of these schools make the NCAA tourney last year or for the last 6 years in a row. We can't land a 4-star kid and these schools do. Some multiple 4-stars? How much is the negative recruiting hurt us and is there any truth to the allegations. How about the schools we recruit against? Western Schools: UNLV #11 UCLA #12 ASU #16 Gonzaga #23 Oregon #30 USC #33 BYU #35 Texas #39 2016 IS A DARK YEAR IN AZTEC RECRUITING: No Smith, No Cage (both to Oregon), No Stanback (Stanford), No Bailey (Marquette) No Jackson (UConn), No Johnson (UNLV) & both Mathews + Melton to USC??? Cyrus (DePaul), Fraser (VCU), Bassett (FLA), Johnson (Utah), Moore (Tulane), Ekiyor (Xavier) even Fitts (USF) + Johnson and Ekiyor reclassifed to 2015 and can play in Spring. TJ LEAF? would make it 100% better. We do have Nolan, Max and Montaque joining McDaniels as well and those guys are going to be pretty darn good. A lot of the guys you mentioned above would just be depth heck Bailey isn't even going to play for 2 years and others we stopped recruiting a year ago. I'm excited about McDaniels.
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Post by KDub on Nov 11, 2015 5:03:53 GMT -8
Understood. However, SDSU was shut out this year. Look at the schools in ESPNs top 40 recruiting class for 2016 above us outside of Blue Blood and top P5 MBB universities: Harvard #8 Auburn #9 Alabama #10 Miss State #21 UMass #25 USC #33 GA #35 Seriously, tell me did any of these schools make the NCAA tourney last year or for the last 6 years in a row. We can't land a 4-star kid and these schools do. Some multiple 4-stars? How much is the negative recruiting hurt us and is there any truth to the allegations. How about the schools we recruit against? Western Schools: UNLV #11 UCLA #12 ASU #16 Gonzaga #23 Oregon #30 USC #33 BYU #35 Texas #39 2016 IS A DARK YEAR IN AZTEC RECRUITING: No Smith, No Cage (both to Oregon), No Stanback (Stanford), No Bailey (Marquette) No Jackson (UConn), No Johnson (UNLV) & both Mathews + Melton to USC??? Cyrus (DePaul), Fraser (VCU), Bassett (FLA), Johnson (Utah), Moore (Tulane), Ekiyor (Xavier) even Fitts (USF) + Johnson and Ekiyor reclassifed to 2015 and can play in Spring. TJ LEAF? would make it 100% better. We do have Nolan, Max and Montaque joining McDaniels as well and those guys are going to be pretty darn good. A lot of the guys you mentioned above would just be depth heck Bailey isn't even going to play for 2 years and others we stopped recruiting a year ago. I'm excited about McDaniels. Agreed. Transfers actually made it a pretty darn good year in my eyes. Also, the court is getting very crowded with quality players, which is a side effect of the recruiting success we enjoyed over the last couple of years. No longer can a quality recruit look to SDSU and think about playing right away. 247 Composite Rating: MGC- 4 Star, .9848 (rated higher than Pope and Cheatham) Narain- 4 Star, .9540 McDaniels- 4 Star, .9225 Hoetzel- 3 Star, .8138 Including our transfers, this can be viewed as one of our most successful classes ever.
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Post by hoobs on Nov 11, 2015 7:49:01 GMT -8
We do have Nolan, Max and Montaque joining McDaniels as well and those guys are going to be pretty darn good. A lot of the guys you mentioned above would just be depth heck Bailey isn't even going to play for 2 years and others we stopped recruiting a year ago. I'm excited about McDaniels. Agreed. Transfers actually made it a pretty darn good year in my eyes. Also, the court is getting very crowded with quality players, which is a side effect of the recruiting success we enjoyed over the last couple of years. No longer can a quality recruit look to SDSU and think about playing right away. 247 Composite Rating: MGC- 4 Star, .9848 (rated higher than Pope and Cheatham) Narain- 4 Star, .9540 McDaniels- 4 Star, .9225 Hoetzel- 3 Star, .8138 Including our transfers, this can be viewed as one of our most successful classes ever. Thank you thank you thank you, oh intelligence voices of reason...
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Post by badfish on Nov 11, 2015 7:58:40 GMT -8
Gunna make a great Aztec
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Post by aztecttcas on Nov 11, 2015 8:34:35 GMT -8
adding transfers is better in some ways than a getting a freshmen because they are more seasoned and have no choice but to work hard since it'll be their shot D1 chance. Otherwise, they end up like Tyrone Shelley or Troy Leaf who went down to DII. Fish has had a great track record with transfers other than Shelley and James Johnson. 2016 will be great regardless of Leaf but would be huge to get him. You bet the transfers were in his ear to come here.
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Post by docmm on Nov 11, 2015 8:47:16 GMT -8
I have no doubt that we would have had another good transfer, probably a 5th year, had Jones been upfront much earlier in the year.
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Post by standiego on Nov 11, 2015 8:55:56 GMT -8
Do hope the Aztecs do send some one up to J. M . D 's area if NCAA allows .or at least do something for the guy who stood by the Aztecs
For recruiting class for 2016 HS wise was not up with other quality programs - for HS and our biggest need a guy that wants to play the 5 and has some size and experience . We lost out on Cage and possibly even more Stanback . NCAA situation did not help. So we will need to address that need for 2016 . Narain is learning to play the 5 .and we will see what maybe needed for 2016 ,from JC or grad transfer . Timing of BJ could have cost coaches from going after a PF/C transfer . Say Williams who went from Mizzu to the Zags .Recruiting we quality more then quantity .
Most reports coming out of early practices this year from those who have been there . MG-C was one of the best players on the roster this year before he had his surgery , if really healthy could be major contributor for 2016 and beyond. Max is supposed to be best outside shooter , better and taller then Shrigley . But those are early predictions.
Bottom line one major area of need for 2016 is at the 5 . Getting NCAA situation resolved will help if possible . Also seeing if J. M D is willing to work at being a 5 , to help the team and more PT .
Leaf a PF , decision due Thursday .
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Post by sdcoug on Nov 11, 2015 9:13:38 GMT -8
We do have Nolan, Max and Montaque joining McDaniels as well and those guys are going to be pretty darn good. A lot of the guys you mentioned above would just be depth heck Bailey isn't even going to play for 2 years and others we stopped recruiting a year ago. I'm excited about McDaniels. Agreed. Transfers actually made it a pretty darn good year in my eyes. Also, the court is getting very crowded with quality players, which is a side effect of the recruiting success we enjoyed over the last couple of years. No longer can a quality recruit look to SDSU and think about playing right away. 247 Composite Rating: MGC- 4 Star, .9848 (rated higher than Pope and Cheatham) Narain- 4 Star, .9540 McDaniels- 4 Star, .9225 Hoetzel- 3 Star, .8138 Including our transfers, this can be viewed as one of our most successful classes ever. Completely agree. Although we're not going to crack any "recruiting rankings top 20's", when you look at the full picture of our influx of talent becoming eligible in 2016-2017 it'd have to rank right up there.
Right now we're just short in 2 categories: 1. Freshmen-eligible next year (2 - including Norain) 2. Inside defensive size/prowess, unless Norain & McDaniels grow up really fast
Here's how our eligibility stacks up moving forward (since this is recruiting focused): SR's: Williams, Allen, Shrigley (& Federico/U'u as WO's) JR's: Kell & maybe Pope SO's: Hemsley, MGC, Max, Cheatham (& Perez as WO) FR: Norain & McDaniels
So 2-3 openings, with majority of starters next year most likely being underclassmen (assuming Pope's gone).
There appears to be an opening for a JC transfer (big?) so Kell won't be the only senior returning in 2017-18 and/or another FR (Leaf!!). After that, depending on what areas we fill, anything else would be frosting (to replace Pope), such as a grad transfer, etc.
We definitely need to add 1-2 more who will be eligible next year - we don't want to go into another year with only 9 scholarship players, especially being thin upfront. But overall, we have very solid talent.
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Post by hoobs on Nov 11, 2015 9:36:53 GMT -8
adding transfers is better in some ways than a getting a freshmen because they are more seasoned and have no choice but to work hard since it'll be their shot D1 chance. Otherwise, they end up like Tyrone Shelley or Troy Leaf who went down to DII. Fish has had a great track record with transfers other than Shelley and James Johnson. 2016 will be great regardless of Leaf but would be huge to get him. You bet the transfers were in his ear to come here. I wouldn't put Tyrone Shelley in that mix so much, he never had a chance to recover from a difficult foot injury. He tried to play through it but just lost too much effective athleticism, so dropped down a level so he could keep playing. I'd say the guy played through more pain as an Aztec than maybe just about anyone other than Tim Shelton. Other than that, I completely agree.
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Post by missiontrails on Nov 11, 2015 10:10:22 GMT -8
Guy wants to come to SDSU , not set a record for hitting 50 pages of posts on where he going . Could have very high ceiling , may not be the greatest talent his first year but if he is willing to learn could be very good in a few years at SDSU . Yeah, because TJ Leaf has publicly stated over and over his goal is to have as many posts as possible on the Aztec board, because his whole thought process revolves around stringing along fans from various schools, not anything at all to do with making the best possible choice for the person who is MOST affected by his decision, HIMSELF! He should only make his choice based on what we as fans think is best for him, amiright?
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