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Post by Frantic on Sept 14, 2015 17:31:08 GMT -8
We're not going to get A1 QBs to SDSU, and who's coaching has no bearing on that. They go to P5 programs. But we need to do a better job of evaluating A2 QBs, and we have a decent future with Chapman and Agnew. We also have to get lucky and hope they develop into good pro style QBs. Nearly every G5 program have QBs that don't pan out - it's what you deal with when recruiting 2nd tier QBs. And as importantly, we need to give those QBs better receivers, and why Hunkie is now here. Big upgrade. I wonder why more top HS QBs (and top players in general) don't opt for playing time versus a chance at P5 glory. I suppose every kid thinks he's the next Carson Palmer. 5* Jesse Scroggins? That guy would've likely taken over for Lindley and started here. Instead he chose glory, and now he's at a DII school called Lindwood University; his fourth school in five years. Max Wittek committed to USC the same year as Cody Kessler. Max is now at Hawaii. That said, we have landed QBs that were supposed to be good. Chad Jeffries was a major recruiting bust. He was the #10 ranked pro style QB of 2011. sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-2647/0Tyler Bray committed, but it's too bad we missed on him. I'm sure most thought Jake Rodrigues was going to be our savior. Apparently not.
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Post by badfish on Sept 14, 2015 18:03:22 GMT -8
We're not going to get A1 QBs to SDSU, and who's coaching has no bearing on that. They go to P5 programs. But we need to do a better job of evaluating A2 QBs, and we have a decent future with Chapman and Agnew. We also have to get lucky and hope they develop into good pro style QBs. Nearly every G5 program have QBs that don't pan out - it's what you deal with when recruiting 2nd tier QBs. And as importantly, we need to give those QBs better receivers, and why Hunkie is now here. Big upgrade. I wonder why more top HS QBs (and top players in general) don't opt for playing time versus a chance at P5 glory. I suppose every kid thinks he's the next Carson Palmer. 5* Jesse Scroggins? That guy would've likely taken over for Lindley and started here. Instead he chose glory, and now he's at a DII school called Lindwood University; his fourth school in five years. Max Wittek committed to USC the same year as Cody Kessler. Max is now at Hawaii. That said, we have landed QBs that were supposed to be good. Chad Jeffries was a major recruiting bust. He was the #10 ranked pro style QB of 2011. sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-2647/0Tyler Bray committed, but it's too bad we missed on him. I'm sure most thought Jake Rodrigues was going to be our savior. Apparently not. It'll never change. Our top recruit last year, 5* QB Zac Gentry (who we had a legit shot at), just got converted to TE before even getting a shot at QB.
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Post by aztech on Sept 14, 2015 18:20:42 GMT -8
I am really on the fence with this staff. We have a new QB coach who has an option background and yet we're stuck on the pro set. Somewhat like oil and water when it comes to development. Blane Morgan was also an OC at AFA so I can't see he and Horton being on the same page. Plus our recruiting coordinator is a defensive coach (Randy White). There doesn't seem to be any synergy.
We're actually ahead of most by even having a former QB be our QB coach. BsU's QB coach never played the position, was a LB in HS and coached tight ends most of his life. That's more the norm than the anomaly. Morgan has at least been there, and teaching one style vs. another is very minor. We're actually in very good hands. Coaches also know their roles, and it appears to me Morgan respects Horton. Greatly. I'm sure they're very much on the same page. As for our recruiting coordinator being a defensive guy, so what? Would that mean there would be no synergy with our defensive staff if he was an offensive guy? He's a COORDINATOR. He doesn't have any say in who we recruit at QB, WR, RB, etc. He coordinates the process. Some teams have their ST coach as coordinator; some don't even assign them any on field coaching duties. It really doesn't matter. PS. One of the more respected OCs and QB coaches anywhere is Franklin at Cal. He played RB and had nothing to do with QBs until his 9th year of coaching. To tell you the truth, I really don't care about other teams' coaches and their backgrounds. I'm only concerned about this staff getting a real QB. Just about everyone here has asked, why have we had instability at QB for so long? The most important position of the team and it's puzzling why this staff has not, or cannot address it. If they did we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?
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Post by Frantic on Sept 14, 2015 18:27:42 GMT -8
It'll never change. Our top recruit last year, 5* QB Zac Gentry (who we had a legit shot at), just got converted to TE before even getting a shot at QB. Wow. Didn't know that. But at 6'7" 240 he may have outgrown the QB position.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 14, 2015 19:47:39 GMT -8
We're actually ahead of most by even having a former QB be our QB coach. BsU's QB coach never played the position, was a LB in HS and coached tight ends most of his life. That's more the norm than the anomaly. Morgan has at least been there, and teaching one style vs. another is very minor. We're actually in very good hands. Coaches also know their roles, and it appears to me Morgan respects Horton. Greatly. I'm sure they're very much on the same page. As for our recruiting coordinator being a defensive guy, so what? Would that mean there would be no synergy with our defensive staff if he was an offensive guy? He's a COORDINATOR. He doesn't have any say in who we recruit at QB, WR, RB, etc. He coordinates the process. Some teams have their ST coach as coordinator; some don't even assign them any on field coaching duties. It really doesn't matter. PS. One of the more respected OCs and QB coaches anywhere is Franklin at Cal. He played RB and had nothing to do with QBs until his 9th year of coaching. To tell you the truth, I really don't care about other teams' coaches and their backgrounds. I'm only concerned about this staff getting a real QB. Just about everyone here has asked, why have we had instability at QB for so long? The most important position of the team and it's puzzling why this staff has not, or cannot address it. If they did we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?
They've admitted to falling short in the past, but this year is relatively deep and we have a RS FR who has promise. The staff has changed. We're not the only ones struggling at QB. Look around the league. Plus, if QK doesn't get injured last year may have been very different.
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Post by jdaztec on Sept 14, 2015 21:09:39 GMT -8
I wonder what it is that is holding Rodrigues back ? I thought he would be the anwser...maybe he still will be.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 14, 2015 21:15:25 GMT -8
I wonder what it is that is holding Rodrigues back ? I thought he would be the anwser...maybe he still will be. In a word, accuracy.
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Post by standiego on Sept 15, 2015 7:00:06 GMT -8
Can JR still run the option ? but maybe 3 QB's means no QB .
Johnson 's team (2-1) plays Del Norte (0-3) this Friday . So Aztec coaches and fans can get a good idea of his play .
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