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Post by ab on Jul 31, 2015 6:25:10 GMT -8
listening to the 1090 guys question Rocky and he was questioned as to why he is not going with Chapman , thusly letting him learn on the job as he is the heir apparent in 2016-- or so it seems as Rodrigues is now clearly #3. I'm thinking we have a big opportunity to win MWC west at least so they are going with Smith's experience. Or , is that just how it seems in July? Your thoughts If Chapman is close then they'd be stupid not to give him at least a series per game. They'd neglected giving the #2 time in the past so I wouldn't expect Rocky & Co to change now.
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 31, 2015 6:44:15 GMT -8
I would be surprised if giving Chapman some series at least in the first two home games was not in the works. If Chapman is our future then we need for him to have the opportunity to develop in game conditions.
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Post by standiego on Jul 31, 2015 8:22:37 GMT -8
IMO the future is this year for the Aztecs . So the team needs to win as many games as possible with the top two QB's . None of the top 3 have game time experience for the Aztecs so it is a learning curve for all . Do agree the first two home OOOC games are times to get the back up some true reps . But bottom line what counts are W's , no excuses. Fall practice seems to start with 1 to 3 : Smith , Chapman and JR all seeing how they perform under a New OC , new system , new QB coach . Lets see who masters the system and whom the players perform better under .Performance and Results that lead to Victories Not Excuses .
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 31, 2015 8:34:02 GMT -8
Is Rocky staying with the Pro Set or moving to the Spread? Rocky usually goes with the more experienced hand, and that would be Maxwell. I think it would be great if Chapman started, that would mean he has extraordinary ability and the future would be now.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 31, 2015 8:36:52 GMT -8
No. J Rod is playing like the #3 QB right now. That's why he's there. From reading this board months ago I got the impression that Rodriguez was so good that he would automatically waltz into the #1 spot. So, what happened? The operative term in your post is "months ago" and there was really only one poster who often guaranteed Rodrigues was the real deal. I don't recall who that was but he hasn't so stated for "months." I'm not blaming him since 4-star QBs who transfer from Oregon because they couldn't beat out a Heisman winner figure to become the starter at SDSU and I myself thought he would be as good as the pre-injury Adam Hall. However, it's quite apparent Rodrigues just hasn't panned out for whatever reason and the staff sure wouldn't have gotten Smith to come if the writing was on the wall that Jake was going to start. All that said, I think if Smith gets banged up in an important close game, I'd rather see Rodrigues come in than Chapman. Particularly at QB, there's no substitute for experience and Rodrigues played a little at Oregon and quarterbacked SDSU's scout team last year.
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Post by pdraztec on Jul 31, 2015 8:49:09 GMT -8
....and Chapman was named the Offensive POY for the Scout team, so he must have played as much as JR.
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Post by standiego on Jul 31, 2015 8:52:29 GMT -8
Last year Rocky let Toledo (OC) make the majority of the decisions about the Offense . Sure seems that Rocky has done the same with Horton(OC) this year . Horton has been the RB's coach here for a while. Horton has said he looks at running a Pro Style with Spread options . Use the best of both for the "new " QB's , whatever is easiest for the QB's to master . Offense could adjust depending on the QB that is in there . Not much of the offense was installed for the Spring game ,was going to be installed early fall . Do not believe there were any option plays for the QB for Spring game. Horton wants to get the ball in the playmakers hands and let them get yardage , possibly turn short to medium gains into big plays . Starts with the backs running the ball. Not force the ball into areas where there is a better opportunity for a interception then a catch . More throws to TE's , at times put DP or Penny out side for passes . Give them a chance to use their speed in the open field .
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 31, 2015 9:10:02 GMT -8
....and Chapman was named the Offensive POY for the Scout team, so he must have played as much as JR. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info, or correction or whatever.
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Post by aztech on Jul 31, 2015 10:47:14 GMT -8
I would be surprised if giving Chapman some series at least in the first two home games was not in the works. If Chapman is our future then we need for him to have the opportunity to develop in game conditions. Many of our games were too close to put in the back ups. Supposedly we now have a real offense to go with the defense so the winning spreads should finally allow the backup to get a lot of playing time. Hopefully enough time to use his arm instead of just hand off to the backs.
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Post by MarshallU on Jul 31, 2015 10:47:51 GMT -8
No way does Long risk going with a RS freshman unless Smith is a total bust. This seems like a make or break year for Long. LOL!!!!
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 31, 2015 11:10:58 GMT -8
Doug Drake didn't say Rocky would be fired. He simply said make or break and with that, I agree. Rocky's either going to "make" double digit wins this year or he's going to prove once and for all that he's a 7-9 guy sure as the sun sets in the west.
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Post by originalshow00 on Jul 31, 2015 13:47:24 GMT -8
The QB race starts August 5th.Remember this is the pre season depth chart based on the spring game.The competition will start again on August 5th where any of these three could start is how the Aztec coaches finalize the depth chart.My guess would be Smith,Rodrigues,Chapman
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Post by fisherville on Aug 1, 2015 8:17:26 GMT -8
No way does Long risk going with a RS freshman unless Smith is a total bust. This seems like a make or break year for Long. LOL!!!! Right? Long could go 0-12 these next 3 years and sterk would give him an extension
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Post by ab on Aug 1, 2015 8:34:32 GMT -8
I would be surprised if giving Chapman some series at least in the first two home games was not in the works. If Chapman is our future then we need for him to have the opportunity to develop in game conditions. You'd be surprised but would you be pissed if Chapman doesn't get at least one series?
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Post by aztecfan1 on Aug 1, 2015 10:26:43 GMT -8
If I could choose I'd play Smith into most of third qtr vs usd assuming a large Aztec lead as Smith needs lots of reps in prep for Cal. I also expect a competitive game vs South Alabama thius no QB substitute unless two+ td lead with just a series left
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Post by aztech on Aug 1, 2015 15:25:51 GMT -8
IMO all this talk about who should start at QB is missing an important point. Whoever is most accurate is going to be the key. All 3 QB candidates have much better arms than QK so hopefully we'll see some nice fly patterns that'll loosen up the defenses. QK with his noodle arm was unable to really test our WRs as defenses dared him to throw. Those floating 15 yard passes caused the WRs to have alligator arms to protect their ribs and I don't blame them. I've even seen pro WRs do that with poor throws. In fact we don't really know how good or bad our WRs are. They're the ones who will decide how explosive our offense will be.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Aug 1, 2015 15:40:28 GMT -8
IMO all this talk about who should start at QB is missing an important point. Whoever is most accurate is going to be the key. All 3 QB candidates have much better arms than QK so hopefully we'll see some nice fly patterns that'll loosen up the defenses. QK with his noodle arm was unable to really test our WRs as defenses dared him to throw. Those floating 15 yard passes caused the WRs to have alligator arms to protect their ribs and I don't blame them. I've even seen pro WRs do that with poor throws. In fact we don't really know how good or bad our WRs are. They're the ones who will decide how explosive our offense will be. From what we saw in the spring, lots more short throws to the TEs: Brunskill and Richardson appear to be coming along with swing passes to the RBs. I don't think the WRs have shown great promise yet, but one or two may emerge, such as Holder and Clewis. But power football is our staple and I don't see that mix of 60-40 runs featuring DJ and Chase Price changing. By August 12 or so, I'll bet we'll know who the QB is. I'm pulling for the kid that started for Kentucky as a freshman.
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Post by aztech on Aug 2, 2015 10:05:38 GMT -8
IMO all this talk about who should start at QB is missing an important point. Whoever is most accurate is going to be the key. All 3 QB candidates have much better arms than QK so hopefully we'll see some nice fly patterns that'll loosen up the defenses. QK with his noodle arm was unable to really test our WRs as defenses dared him to throw. Those floating 15 yard passes caused the WRs to have alligator arms to protect their ribs and I don't blame them. I've even seen pro WRs do that with poor throws. In fact we don't really know how good or bad our WRs are. They're the ones who will decide how explosive our offense will be. From what we saw in the spring, lots more short throws to the TEs: Brunskill and Richardson appear to be coming along with swing passes to the RBs. I don't think the WRs have shown great promise yet, but one or two may emerge, such as Holder and Clewis. But power football is our staple and I don't see that mix of 60-40 runs featuring DJ and Chase Price changing. By August 12 or so, I'll bet we'll know who the QB is. I'm pulling for the kid that started for Kentucky as a freshman. Swing passes and tosses to the TEs shouldn't be the staple of our passing game. That will not stretch the defenses. Our running game will be even more effective if defenses have to be aware of our deeper passing game.
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Post by standiego on Aug 2, 2015 10:48:13 GMT -8
Attended the Spring game . Was told by parents very little of the offense had been installed . There were No QB option runs. the only long ball play thrown and completed was by JR . Numerous throws to TE's or RB's in open space . Run the ball or get the ball to quick guys that can turn short high % passes into more yardage . Takes pressure off the QB's and in- experienced OL. Do not try to force plays that are not there .The parents really like the offense's coaches this year compared to last year . Pro style offense with spread options . Try to run plays best suited for each QB . Smith was #1 QB at the end of Spring but was told the battle starts fresh this fall after the newer offense is installed and the coaches see what the OL can do at dominating plus what QB's step up or are able to make plays.
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Post by ron on Aug 3, 2015 15:20:17 GMT -8
IMO all this talk about who should start at QB is missing an important point. Whoever is most accurate is going to be the key. All 3 QB candidates have much better arms than QK so hopefully we'll see some nice fly patterns that'll loosen up the defenses. QK with his noodle arm was unable to really test our WRs as defenses dared him to throw. Those floating 15 yard passes caused the WRs to have alligator arms to protect their ribs and I don't blame them. I've even seen pro WRs do that with poor throws. In fact we don't really know how good or bad our WRs are. They're the ones who will decide how explosive our offense will be. From what we saw in the spring, lots more short throws to the TEs: Brunskill and Richardson appear to be coming along with swing passes to the RBs. I don't think the WRs have shown great promise yet, but one or two may emerge, such as Holder and Clewis. But power football is our staple and I don't see that mix of 60-40 runs featuring DJ and Chase Price changing. By August 12 or so, I'll bet we'll know who the QB is. I'm pulling for the kid that started for Kentucky as a freshman. You mention Richardson, but isn't he behind Wells on the depth chart? It would be great if all 3 have good years and we can see some 2 TE formations.
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