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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 24, 2015 10:13:12 GMT -8
Could John Moores and his business partner Charles Noell be interested in bringing Major League Soccer to San Diego and build a joint use SDSU/MLS stadium on the Q site? Sports media in Wales are speculating about a deal in the works by former San Diego Padres owner John Moores and his longtime business partner Charles Noell to buy part ownership of a soccer team there.A close friend of Moores in San Diego confirmed that the multimillionaire is a soccer fan who has suggested building a soccer stadium in downtown San Diego, and that Noell recently purchased a château in the British Isles and loves the area.www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2014/oct/31/john-moores-noell-soccer-team-wales-buy-swansea/Swansea could receive American investment as early as next month, club director Huw Cooze has revealed.
The Barclays Premier League club have been in talks with American businessmen John Jay Moores and Charles Noell since last autumn with the former owners of Major League baseball team the San Diego Padres set to make a significant cash injection in return for a 30 per cent stake in Swansea.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2955853/Swansea-receive-investment-American-businessman-John-Jay-Moores-Charles-Noell-early-month.html
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Post by fredgarvinmp on Jul 24, 2015 11:14:56 GMT -8
In a perfect world we can have all of the above, the Chargers stay AND an MLS team with SDSU sharing that stadium if they wish.
Honestly, this region should be able to support more than just 2 major sports.
I am a casual Premier League fan but don’t know the nuts and bolts of the structure over there, could that English club have a direct tie to an MLS club in SD?
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Post by hoobs on Jul 24, 2015 11:17:35 GMT -8
I am a casual Premier League fan but don’t know the nuts and bolts of the structure over there, could that English club have a direct tie to an MLS club in SD? Yes. Several do, in fact. Tottenham -- SJ Earthquakes Man City -- NYCFC There might be others...
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Post by fredgarvinmp on Jul 24, 2015 11:24:53 GMT -8
I am a casual Premier League fan but don’t know the nuts and bolts of the structure over there, could that English club have a direct tie to an MLS club in SD? Yes. Several do, in fact. Tottenham -- SJ Earthquakes Man City -- NYCFC There might be others... Thanks So I am assuming they designate talent to these teams i.e. the MLB minor league farm systems?
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Post by hoobs on Jul 24, 2015 11:42:04 GMT -8
Yes. Several do, in fact. Tottenham -- SJ Earthquakes Man City -- NYCFC There might be others... Thanks So I am assuming they designate talent to these teams i.e. the MLB minor league farm systems? Ehhhhh, not totally. That can be the case, but we're in early days of these relationships. I also don't profess to know all the ins & outs of the deals. However, the bottom line is that if Moores is going to buy into Swansea FC then it's not a huge leap to think that he'd be interested in an MLS franchise and that there could absolutely be a tie-in between those clubs... and (assuming he wanted to buy into an MLS club for San Diego) likely SDSU since an MLS-suitable stadium would be shared with the Aztecs (& affirmatively NOT with the Chargers, other than Seattle which is a fairly unique situation, MLS wants to get/keep its teams out of NFL stadiums).
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Post by hoobs on Jul 24, 2015 11:48:06 GMT -8
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Post by fredgarvinmp on Jul 24, 2015 12:13:36 GMT -8
Thanks, interesting article. Just thinking it would be nice to see some quality talent loaned to the club IF we ever got a club and it was affiliated with a top FC. I really would love to get into MLS (I remember going to several outdoor games in the early 80s at Jack Murphy) but after watching world-class soccer now available on cable it is a bit hard to really get into as the level of play obviously isn’t the same. BTW, does anyone remember this club? Haha en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_JawsI followed the Soccers religiously in the late 70’s and 80’s in the NASL and the MISL but I don’t remember that team. And how the heck did they not get sued by Universal?
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Post by hoobs on Jul 24, 2015 12:55:42 GMT -8
MLS quality has really improved over the past 5 seasons. It's actually watchable now.
And in person the games are a blast... the fans at a lot of stadiums are really great. The Seattle vs. Portland derbies have the feel of a real top-tier European rivalry game. Kansas City and Toronto I think also are among the other teams/cities to have really terrific fan environments. DC has a pretty good core, and will likely be better when they move out of the dilapidated RFK stadium and into their own new digs (still TBD).
I think San Diego would grow a terrific fan base very quickly.
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Post by fredgarvinmp on Jul 24, 2015 14:38:56 GMT -8
MLS quality has really improved over the past 5 seasons. It's actually watchable now. And in person the games are a blast... the fans at a lot of stadiums are really great. The Seattle vs. Portland derbies have the feel of a real top-tier European rivalry game. Kansas City and Toronto I think also are among the other teams/cities to have really terrific fan environments. DC has a pretty good core, and will likely be better when they move out of the dilapidated RFK stadium and into their own new digs (still TBD). I think San Diego would grow a terrific fan base very quickly. I have no doubt that if we were to get a team it would do well, especially if they were in a new stadium.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 24, 2015 21:03:34 GMT -8
MLS: Minneapolis, Miami not making sufficient progress on stadiums “As of today, there is no stadium plan,” Abbott said. Minneapolis had a July 1 deadline to formalize a stadium plan, but couldn’t get the tax incentives and other local support necessary, he said. League officials are planning to travel in the next few weeks to St. Paul, Minn., where the mayor has expressed interest in hosting a soccer stadium, Abbott said. “Then we can determine whether this is a market we can continue to pursue, or move on,” he said.The league also has maintained plans for a previously awarded expansion team in Miami. But during his radio appearance Wednesday, Abbott also noted Miami’s stadium plans have run into difficulties. Issues there include both finalizing a site and financing. Without changes in those two situations, he said, “we’re going to have to make a decision about what other markets are out there.”Very interesting developments. This could potentially open the door for MLS in San Diego. San Diego has been on MLS radar for years. www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2015/07/01/mls-minneapolis-miami-not-making-sufficient.html
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Post by ab on Jul 24, 2015 21:41:54 GMT -8
This should be off-topic since neither Moores or the other guy have given any indication they have interest in building or buying a new stadium in SD. It's only 2003's pipedream.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 24, 2015 21:47:35 GMT -8
This should be off-topic since neither Moores or the other guy have given any indication they have interest in building or buying a new stadium in SD. It's only 2003's pipedream. Actually, I prefer SDSU build a stadium independently. If that is not an option then a joint use stadium with SDSU & MLS is a great alternative. “Like the rest of San Diego, we’re waiting to see what happens between the mayor and the Chargers,” said state Sen. Marty Block, D-San Diego, who would push for state funding for SDSU expansion if the site becomes available. “If we keep them (the team) somewhere else in San Diego, downtown or wherever, that’s the best of both worlds.”
Early brainstorming imagines moving the college of sciences to the Qualcomm site, along with student and faculty housing, research offices and a smaller, cheaper stadium for Aztec football and perhaps a professional soccer team.
[/b] - See more at: www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/04/san-diego-may-do-better-without-nfl-chargers/#sthash.0VYMrlKe.dpufI'm not the one who came up with this "pipedream" as you describe it.
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Post by ab on Jul 24, 2015 21:50:20 GMT -8
This should be off-topic since neither Moores or the other guy have given any indication they have interest in building or buying a new stadium in SD. It's only 2003's pipedream. Actually, I prefer SDSU build a stadium independently. If that is not an option then a joint use stadium with SDSU & MLS is a great alternative. “Like the rest of San Diego, we’re waiting to see what happens between the mayor and the Chargers,” said state Sen. Marty Block, D-San Diego, who would push for state funding for SDSU expansion if the site becomes available. “If we keep them (the team) somewhere else in San Diego, downtown or wherever, that’s the best of both worlds.”
Early brainstorming imagines moving the college of sciences to the Qualcomm site, along with student and faculty housing, research offices and a smaller, cheaper stadium for Aztec football and perhaps a professional soccer team.
[/b] - See more at: www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/04/san-diego-may-do-better-without-nfl-chargers/#sthash.0VYMrlKe.dpufI'm not the one who came up with this "pipedream" as you describe it.[/quote] Yes you are. Marty Block didn't put the Moores group in charge of maybe building a stadium here. You read a story and got wet over it and tried to put the two together when there's been NO MENTION of this happening. I guess you had a wet dream. Congrats.
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Post by ab on Jul 24, 2015 21:52:02 GMT -8
and while we're at it, I called McSwain out on one of his stories stating that he hadn't done his homework and when I proved it to him he had nothing to say.
He's obviously a tool for the LA Times.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 24, 2015 22:01:11 GMT -8
Actually, I prefer SDSU build a stadium independently. If that is not an option then a joint use stadium with SDSU & MLS is a great alternative. “Like the rest of San Diego, we’re waiting to see what happens between the mayor and the Chargers,” said state Sen. Marty Block, D-San Diego, who would push for state funding for SDSU expansion if the site becomes available. “If we keep them (the team) somewhere else in San Diego, downtown or wherever, that’s the best of both worlds.”
Early brainstorming imagines moving the college of sciences to the Qualcomm site, along with student and faculty housing, research offices and a smaller, cheaper stadium for Aztec football and perhaps a professional soccer team.
[/b] - See more at: www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/04/san-diego-may-do-better-without-nfl-chargers/#sthash.0VYMrlKe.dpufI'm not the one who came up with this "pipedream" as you describe it.[/quote] Yes you are. Marty Block didn't put the Moores group in charge of maybe building a stadium here. You read a story and got wet over it and tried to put the two together when there's been NO MENTION of this happening. I guess you had a wet dream. Congrats.[/quote] Lol. I have no idea who the investors are going to be. Moores just seems like one of the logical choices. He has money, owns JMI Realty (real estate investment and development), was a former booster of SDSU, likes soccer, has been quoted as wanting a soccer stadium built in downtown San Diego and is currently pursuing the purchase of a football/soccer club in Swansea, South Wales who play in the Premier League.
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Post by ab on Jul 24, 2015 22:04:32 GMT -8
[/b] - See more at: www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/04/san-diego-may-do-better-without-nfl-chargers/#sthash.0VYMrlKe.dpufI'm not the one who came up with this "pipedream" as you describe it.[/quote] Yes you are. Marty Block didn't put the Moores group in charge of maybe building a stadium here. You read a story and got wet over it and tried to put the two together when there's been NO MENTION of this happening. I guess you had a wet dream. Congrats.[/quote] Lol. I have no idea who the investors are going to be. Moores just seems like one of the logical choices. He has money, owns JMI Realty (real estate investment and development), was a former booster of SDSU, likes soccer, has been quoted as wanting a soccer stadium built in downtown San Diego and is currently pursuing the purchase of a football/soccer club in Swansea, South Wales who play in the Premier League.[/quote] Who gives a $#!+ what Marty Block wants? He lived a few doors from me up til about 6 months ago or so. He's a politician trying to make points with whatever voters he's got when instead he ought to pay more attention to the young lady he lived with. Is he still in office?
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 24, 2015 22:13:30 GMT -8
[/b] - See more at: www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/04/san-diego-may-do-better-without-nfl-chargers/#sthash.0VYMrlKe.dpufI'm not the one who came up with this "pipedream" as you describe it.[/quote] Yes you are. Marty Block didn't put the Moores group in charge of maybe building a stadium here. You read a story and got wet over it and tried to put the two together when there's been NO MENTION of this happening. I guess you had a wet dream. Congrats.[/quote] Lol. I have no idea who the investors are going to be. Moores just seems like one of the logical choices. He has money, owns JMI Realty (real estate investment and development), was a former booster of SDSU, likes soccer, has been quoted as wanting a soccer stadium built in downtown San Diego and is currently pursuing the purchase of a football/soccer club in Swansea, South Wales who play in the Premier League.[/quote] Who gives a $#!+ what Marty Block wants? He lived a few doors from me up til about 6 months ago or so. He's a politician trying to make points with whatever voters he's got when instead he ought to pay more attention to the young lady he lived with. Is he still in office?[/quote] As far as I know he was elected in 2012 to a 4-year term. He could run for an addition 4-year term. As far as who gives a $#!+ what Marty Block wants… I would guess Hirshman, Sterk, members of the San Diego City Council and the County Supervisors are all in very close contact/communication with regards to contingency plans for SDSU.
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Post by ab on Jul 24, 2015 22:14:33 GMT -8
[/b] - See more at: www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/04/san-diego-may-do-better-without-nfl-chargers/#sthash.0VYMrlKe.dpufI'm not the one who came up with this "pipedream" as you describe it.[/quote] Yes you are. Marty Block didn't put the Moores group in charge of maybe building a stadium here. You read a story and got wet over it and tried to put the two together when there's been NO MENTION of this happening. I guess you had a wet dream. Congrats.[/quote] Lol. I have no idea who the investors are going to be. Moores just seems like one of the logical choices. He has money, owns JMI Realty (real estate investment and development), was a former booster of SDSU, likes soccer, has been quoted as wanting a soccer stadium built in downtown San Diego and is currently pursuing the purchase of a football/soccer club in Swansea, South Wales who play in the Premier League.[/quote] Who gives a $#!+ what Marty Block wants? He lived a few doors from me up til about 6 months ago or so. He's a politician trying to make points with whatever voters he's got when instead he ought to pay more attention to the young lady he lived with. Is he still in office?[/quote] Assume all you want to. As far as I know he was elected in 2012 to a 4-year term. He could run for an addition 4-year term. As far as who gives a $#!+ what Marty Block wants… I would guess Hirshman, Sterk, members of the San Diego City Council and the County Supervisors are all in very close contact/communication with regards to contingency plans for SDSU. [/quote]
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 24, 2015 22:26:27 GMT -8
[/b] - See more at: www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/04/san-diego-may-do-better-without-nfl-chargers/#sthash.0VYMrlKe.dpufI'm not the one who came up with this "pipedream" as you describe it.[/quote] Yes you are. Marty Block didn't put the Moores group in charge of maybe building a stadium here. You read a story and got wet over it and tried to put the two together when there's been NO MENTION of this happening. I guess you had a wet dream. Congrats.[/quote] Lol. I have no idea who the investors are going to be. Moores just seems like one of the logical choices. He has money, owns JMI Realty (real estate investment and development), was a former booster of SDSU, likes soccer, has been quoted as wanting a soccer stadium built in downtown San Diego and is currently pursuing the purchase of a football/soccer club in Swansea, South Wales who play in the Premier League.[/quote] Who gives a $#!+ what Marty Block wants? He lived a few doors from me up til about 6 months ago or so. He's a politician trying to make points with whatever voters he's got when instead he ought to pay more attention to the young lady he lived with. Is he still in office?[/quote] Assume all you want to. As far as I know he was elected in 2012 to a 4-year term. He could run for an addition 4-year term. As far as who gives a $#!+ what Marty Block wants… I would guess Hirshman, Sterk, members of the San Diego City Council and the County Supervisors are all in very close contact/communication with regards to contingency plans for SDSU.[/quote] [/quote] I don't assume that; Sterk has publicly stated that.
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