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Post by ab on Aug 17, 2015 15:32:27 GMT -8
I would doubt it as well but Orlando and San Antonio built stadiums with no promises and they're still sitting mostly vacant IIRC, Orlando and Tampa are only like and hour and a half apart so I can't see why any NFL franchise would want to move to Orlando. As to San Antonio, although Jerry Jones reportedly highly opposes a team there, it looks like the guy has been mellowing a bit recently and no longer trying to throw his weight around as much. So who knows, maybe the Raiders or Chargers might actually move there. The Alamodome would have to be seriously revamped to be up to current NFL Stadium They've got about 100 suites, not enough. Jerry's World has over 300 while most stadiums have 160 or more. As far as Jerry, the man is greedy and I doubt he'd soften his stance on San Antonio. One would think he'd favor Spanos w/ L.A. being similar situations. I agree that Orlando isn't going to be home to the NFL anytime soon. The stadium was enlarged to NFL standards just about the time the Tampa Bay Bucs were hatched. |
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Post by ab on Aug 17, 2015 15:34:01 GMT -8
I didn't think they could apply for relocation yet. Hey, I just report stuff I hear, I don't guarantee its accuracy.  Don't worry, neither does md, hoobs, 2003 and the other Charger haters.   |
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Post by SD Johnny on Aug 17, 2015 16:04:19 GMT -8
twitter.com/allbrightnflBenjamin Allbright @allbrightnfl 5h5 hours ago Source indicates #Chargers to LA support has eroded among owners, likely not happening. #Rams considered "a virtual lock" to move though. Just looked him up to see who in the hell this is. Kid looks 20, writes for Bleacher Report and has or had a radio show on a small Denver radio station that was off the air for quite some time. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 17, 2015 16:06:29 GMT -8
I can't see St Louis building a new stadium without guarantees of another NFL team available to play in it. But then again, stranger things have happened. I would doubt it as well but Orlando and San Antonio built stadiums with no promises and they're still sitting mostly vacant True--but San Antonio could host an NFL team in the Alamodome on a temporary basis, and allegedly have plans in place to build a new stadium on the west side of town should an NFL team relocate there. |
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Post by myownwords on Aug 17, 2015 16:09:10 GMT -8
I would doubt it as well but Orlando and San Antonio built stadiums with no promises and they're still sitting mostly vacant True--but San Antonio could host an NFL team in the Alamodome on a temporary basis, and allegedly have plans in place to build a new stadium on the west side of town should an NFL team relocate there. But really, how anxious do you think Spanos (and family) and Fabiani would be happy to locate and live in St.Louis or San Antonio? I can't see it. LA yes, but... |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 17, 2015 16:14:17 GMT -8
More interest minutia from that liar Policy. He's completely lost any ouce of credibility based on what he told the NFL that most Chargers fans would follow the team AND that people in L.A. would most like to see the Chargers out of the 3 teams. He's worse than Fibiani for telling the truth. After hearing Policy today going on about the "Super Bowl Nirvana" that Carson could become, it reminded me of the line in the movie "Blazing Saddles". "You use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore." Policy has become so much more entertaining than Fabiani--the BS that he utters is so unbelievable it's hilarious. How can he keep a straight face? |
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Post by junior on Aug 17, 2015 16:15:33 GMT -8
The losers are those who are still willfully paying to attend Charger games this season. But we know that at least half the Q is always full of the opponents' fans…
Part of this too, is the Spanos fear of losing the LA market to the Rams. Not that anyone in LA gives a rat's ass about the Chargers to begin with.
This will be like the Clippers moving to LA. The Chargers will always be the "runner up".
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Post by aardvark on Aug 17, 2015 16:16:12 GMT -8
True--but San Antonio could host an NFL team in the Alamodome on a temporary basis, and allegedly have plans in place to build a new stadium on the west side of town should an NFL team relocate there. But really, how anxious to you think Spanos (and family) and Fabiani would be happy to locate and live in St.Louis or San Antonio? I can't see it. LA yes, but... I could see San Antonio. St Louis would show desperation. |
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Post by hoobs on Aug 17, 2015 16:43:56 GMT -8
Hey, I just report stuff I hear, I don't guarantee its accuracy. Don't worry, neither does md, hoobs, 2003 and the other Charger haters. Geesus, you're so petty and pathetic, Bruce. |
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Post by aztecbolt on Aug 17, 2015 16:46:42 GMT -8
Inglewood Mayor James T Butts Jr says utilities & sewer lines are going in at Kroenke's stadium site. Will be ready to build in 118 days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 17:28:41 GMT -8
The Kumbaya moment is in the offing. The Chargers will "reluctantly" come back to the table subsequent to the new "survey" of con vis clients indicating "contiguous" isn't such a big deal (turns out SD has some pretty great weather! Who knew!) and as a result, the city "reluctantly" agrees that all options are back on the table.
"Tough" negotiation follow, the outcome of which will be Deano magnanimously agreeing to keep the team in town long enough to prepare a proper EIR/ finance plan for a late 2016 ballot. The new finance package will contain concessions from the Rams for their "intrusion" into Deano's market AND a ToT.
End result: Combined convention center/ stadium downtown.
It has to go this way. The Carson fiction is becoming more and more problematic to maintain. It has about a 45 day shelf life at this point. Notice that Sh!thead Fabiani isn't out pissing everybody off any more. Policy is the stooge/fall guy.
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Post by fisherville on Aug 17, 2015 17:37:30 GMT -8
But we know that at least half the Q is always full of the opponents' fans… Complete bull$#!+, but that isn't anything new coming from your posts. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 17, 2015 23:01:56 GMT -8
The Kumbaya moment is in the offing. The Chargers will "reluctantly" come back to the table subsequent to the new "survey" of con vis clients indicating "contiguous" isn't such a big deal (turns out SD has some pretty great weather! Who knew!) and as a result, the city "reluctantly" agrees that all options are back on the table. "Tough" negotiation follow, the outcome of which will be Deano magnanimously agreeing to keep the team in town long enough to prepare a proper EIR/ finance plan for a late 2016 ballot. The new finance package will contain concessions from the Rams for their "intrusion" into Deano's market AND a ToT. End result: Combined convention center/ stadium downtown. It has to go this way. The Carson fiction is becoming more and more problematic to maintain. It has about a 45 day shelf life at this point. Notice that Sh!thead Fabiani isn't out pissing everybody off any more. Policy is the stooge/fall guy. And the ToT will have to go before the city voters, and being that it is a tax increase, doesn't it have to be a 2/3 majority to pass? If it does, and doesn't pass, then what? |
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Post by ab on Aug 18, 2015 7:25:24 GMT -8
Don't worry, neither does md, hoobs, 2003 and the other Charger haters. Geesus, you're so petty and pathetic, Bruce. hoobs - just read your own biased posts to see the loser in the mirror. I'm not sure how many times you've wet yourself reading some propaganda but it's time to do your laundry.  The only regret I have is telling you how to get Duke hoops tickets despite the fact you didn't donate enough to the Aztec hoops program. At the time, I thought you were at least a decent guy but now....SMA |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 7:32:46 GMT -8
The Kumbaya moment is in the offing. The Chargers will "reluctantly" come back to the table subsequent to the new "survey" of con vis clients indicating "contiguous" isn't such a big deal (turns out SD has some pretty great weather! Who knew!) and as a result, the city "reluctantly" agrees that all options are back on the table. "Tough" negotiation follow, the outcome of which will be Deano magnanimously agreeing to keep the team in town long enough to prepare a proper EIR/ finance plan for a late 2016 ballot. The new finance package will contain concessions from the Rams for their "intrusion" into Deano's market AND a ToT. End result: Combined convention center/ stadium downtown. It has to go this way. The Carson fiction is becoming more and more problematic to maintain. It has about a 45 day shelf life at this point. Notice that Sh!thead Fabiani isn't out pissing everybody off any more. Policy is the stooge/fall guy. The end result - the voters of SD city or county tell the a-hole ownership of the Chargers to f-off with a landslide beat-down at the polls. And then the Fabianis will really be in a spot. |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 18, 2015 7:33:02 GMT -8
The best outcome for all would be a downtown Stadium for the Chargers and SDSU taking over the Q site for campus expansion and a 40K Stadium that has footprint and plan for expansion as needed. I would not like SDSU playing downtown.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 7:59:50 GMT -8
The Kumbaya moment is in the offing. The Chargers will "reluctantly" come back to the table subsequent to the new "survey" of con vis clients indicating "contiguous" isn't such a big deal (turns out SD has some pretty great weather! Who knew!) and as a result, the city "reluctantly" agrees that all options are back on the table. "Tough" negotiation follow, the outcome of which will be Deano magnanimously agreeing to keep the team in town long enough to prepare a proper EIR/ finance plan for a late 2016 ballot. The new finance package will contain concessions from the Rams for their "intrusion" into Deano's market AND a ToT. End result: Combined convention center/ stadium downtown. It has to go this way. The Carson fiction is becoming more and more problematic to maintain. It has about a 45 day shelf life at this point. Notice that Sh!thead Fabiani isn't out pissing everybody off any more. Policy is the stooge/fall guy. And the ToT will have to go before the city voters, and being that it is a tax increase, doesn't it have to be a 2/3 majority to pass? If it does, and doesn't pass, then what? 2/3rd's is a high bar but it can be done. Combine the core constituencies of the Convis Center and stadium folks and you're somewhere around 40%(?). That means you have to swing 20% or so of the voters in your direction. That's doable primarily because there will be no well funded or organized opposition to the measure should it ever gets that far. All of the traditional SD power centers will be aligned behind it; downtown interests, tourism folks and unions. The Chargers could certainly help by...you know..actually winning... something...for once in their miserable existence. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 18, 2015 8:15:34 GMT -8
And the ToT will have to go before the city voters, and being that it is a tax increase, doesn't it have to be a 2/3 majority to pass? If it does, and doesn't pass, then what? 2/3rd's is a high bar but it can be done. Combine the core constituencies of the Convis Center and stadium folks and you're somewhere around 40%(?). That means you have to swing 20% or so of the voters in your direction. That's doable primarily because there will be no well funded or organized opposition to the measure should it ever gets that far. All of the traditional SD power centers will be aligned behind it; downtown interests, tourism folks and unions. The Chargers could certainly help by...you know..actually winning... something...for once in their miserable existence. Or the Chargers could get behind the proposal financially. The millions they claimed to have spent in Carson could have helped here in that regard. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 8:57:41 GMT -8
2/3rd's is a high bar but it can be done. Combine the core constituencies of the Convis Center and stadium folks and you're somewhere around 40%(?). That means you have to swing 20% or so of the voters in your direction. That's doable primarily because there will be no well funded or organized opposition to the measure should it ever gets that far. All of the traditional SD power centers will be aligned behind it; downtown interests, tourism folks and unions. The Chargers could certainly help by...you know..actually winning... something...for once in their miserable existence. Or the Chargers could get behind the proposal financially. The millions they claimed to have spent in Carson could have helped here in that regard. A significant contribution from the Chargers/NFL/Rams will be a must for any potential project. |
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Post by fisherville on Aug 18, 2015 9:29:45 GMT -8
Inglewood makes much more sense than the carson bluff
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