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Post by docmm on May 20, 2015 7:00:03 GMT -8
Losing an NFL team takes away some sports history, enjoyment and fan focus from that sport. But once the shock and bitterness wears off, I think SDSU and especially Men's BB will rule this city for a big part of the sports calendar. The Chargers dominate the radio, TV and newspaper not just during the regular season but around NFL draft time and even the summer. No matter how great the Aztecs BB or FB games were on Saturdays up till the end of January, all sports guys could talk about on Monday was what the Chargers did that weekend. I am looking forward to having the city even more collectively behind Aztec teams when/if the Chargers go. The Men's BB program is far and away the most successful program in town, maybe now it will get the recognition it deserves.
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Post by fisherville on May 20, 2015 7:15:24 GMT -8
Chargers probably aren't leaving
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on May 20, 2015 7:17:41 GMT -8
Chargers probably aren't leaving Don't count on it.
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Post by hoobs on May 20, 2015 7:23:22 GMT -8
Chargers probably aren't leaving "Probably" is probably a bit too strong. I'd say no more than 60% likely to stay, and that's far short of what "probably" means - at least in my book.
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Post by retiredaztec on May 20, 2015 7:25:50 GMT -8
Losing an NFL team takes away some sports history, enjoyment and fan focus from that sport. But once the shock and bitterness wears off, I think SDSU and especially Men's BB will rule this city for a big part of the sports calendar. The Chargers dominate the radio, TV and newspaper not just during the regular season but around NFL draft time and even the summer. No matter how great the Aztecs BB or FB games were on Saturdays up till the end of January, all sports guys could talk about on Monday was what the Chargers did that weekend. I am looking forward to having the city even more collectively behind Aztec teams when/if the Chargers go. The Men's BB program is far and away the most successful program in town, maybe now it will get the recognition it deserves. To paraphrase Frasier Crane, "what color is the sky in your world?"..
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Post by aztecfanatic on May 20, 2015 7:27:48 GMT -8
Seems a little like a win-win situation for Aztec fans. If they stay the Aztecs will have a new stadium to play in and that could not do anything to hurt recruiting. If they leave; it will be as you said - both programs, football and basketball, will receive more media attention than ever (maybe an on-campus stadium would be in play). I have loved the Chargers as far back as I can remember but I'm not sure if I want them to stay or go. SDSU has and will always be my first love; so either way we benefit in some manner or other.
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Post by dlangford9 on May 20, 2015 7:37:11 GMT -8
I had a weird dream last night... I was at a charity event and was introduced to Alex Spanos. I was distressed because I ABSOLUTELY did not want to shake his hand, but didn't want to create a scene at a charity event. Wow, I think I spend a little TOO MUCH time thinking about this stuff.
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Post by obboy13 on May 20, 2015 7:52:37 GMT -8
I don't know doc. San Diego is a town of front runners, we support our teams win or tie. While that bodes well for the men's B-ball program, Football has a ways to go to capture the hearts and minds of the average San Diegan. Winning cures most ills, but wins over USD, U.C. Davis, or Mills College may not be enough to attract former Bolt fans. A couple of wins over Pac-12 or P-5 opponents, and a MWC Championship might just do the trick though.....we can only hope.
Also don't forget that hockey starts up again here in the fall, and back in the day the Gulls were very strong in the market.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 7:53:26 GMT -8
Insiders are still saying the Chargers are likely leaving SD. That can't be a good sign.
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Post by SD Johnny on May 20, 2015 8:11:34 GMT -8
SDSU fans that see opportunity should the Chargers leave town form that opinion based on simple economics...if Coke & Pepsi cease to exist RC Cola is going to see a bump in sales as a result (use whatever other econ example you prefer if you don't like that one). Upon hearing this, Charger Honks exhibit the first stage of grief (denial) and scoff at the notion that SDSU and the Chargers compete in any way, shape or form....let alone for fans dollars or media attention. In fact, they argue that having the Chargers in town actually HELPS the Aztecs and their very existence relies on the Chargers remaining in San Diego. I find that opinion humorous and can't wait till the Mayflower vans show up at the Chargers practice facility.
The sky in my word is blue (not power blue & gold).
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on May 20, 2015 8:14:40 GMT -8
I don't know doc. San Diego is a town of front runners, we support our teams win or tie. While that bodes well for the men's B-ball program, Football has a ways to go to capture the hearts and minds of the average San Diegan. Winning cures most ills, but wins over USD, U.C. Davis, or Mills College may not be enough to attract former Bolt fans. A couple of wins over Pac-12 or P-5 opponents, and a MWC Championship might just do the trick though.....we can only hope. Also don't forget that hockey starts up again here in the fall, and back in the day the Gulls were very strong in the market. Certainly winning cures most problems. I will say that I know several Charger fans that graduated from SDSU. They follow SDSU football casually and SDSU basketball very closely. I would suspect without the presence of the Chargers that SDSU football would attract a significant amount of new fans; particularly if they are winning as you describe.
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Post by mnico213 on May 20, 2015 8:19:22 GMT -8
SDSU fans that see opportunity should the Chargers leave town form that opinion based on simple economics...if Coke & Pepsi cease to exist RC Cola is going to see a bump in sales as a result (use whatever other econ example you prefer if you don't like that one). Upon hearing this, Charger Honks exhibit the first stage of grief (denial) and scoff at the notion that SDSU and the Chargers compete in any way, shape or form....let alone for fans dollars or media attention. In fact, they argue that having the Chargers in town actually HELPS the Aztecs and their very existence relies on the Chargers remaining in San Diego. I find that opinion humorous and can't wait till the Mayflower vans show up at the Chargers practice facility. The sky in my word is blue (not power blue & gold). Saying this is simple economics is making a pretty big assumption that consumers would see SDSU football as a substitute good for Chargers football. Will there be any people that see it that way? Of course, but there is no way that it would have the same level of substitutability that RC Cola would have for Coke or Pepsi. College football and NFL football are very different products, especially college football at the level that SDSU plays.
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Post by ab on May 20, 2015 8:20:54 GMT -8
Losing an NFL team takes away some sports history, enjoyment and fan focus from that sport. But once the shock and bitterness wears off, I think SDSU and especially Men's BB will rule this city for a big part of the sports calendar. The Chargers dominate the radio, TV and newspaper not just during the regular season but around NFL draft time and even the summer. No matter how great the Aztecs BB or FB games were on Saturdays up till the end of January, all sports guys could talk about on Monday was what the Chargers did that weekend. I am looking forward to having the city even more collectively behind Aztec teams when/if the Chargers go. The Men's BB program is far and away the most successful program in town, maybe now it will get the recognition it deserves. I don't see it. We've got hundreds of thousands of alums in this city who ARE NOT BEHIND State athletics so what makes you believe that those non-alums will all of a sudden jump on the bandwagon to run to the Q to watch us play S. Alabama and USD? Aztec basketball gets plenty of recognition locally. Not sure what you want other than what we're getting now.
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Post by ab on May 20, 2015 8:22:35 GMT -8
Insiders are still saying the Chargers are likely leaving SD. That can't be a good sign. Really? Who art thou insiders you speak of? Kaplan/Smith, 'Saw, Acee etc... They don't know anymore than anybody else. They just get paid to talk or write about what they know and don't know about.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 8:23:16 GMT -8
Losing an NFL team takes away some sports history, enjoyment and fan focus from that sport. But once the shock and bitterness wears off, I think SDSU and especially Men's BB will rule this city for a big part of the sports calendar. The Chargers dominate the radio, TV and newspaper not just during the regular season but around NFL draft time and even the summer. No matter how great the Aztecs BB or FB games were on Saturdays up till the end of January, all sports guys could talk about on Monday was what the Chargers did that weekend. I am looking forward to having the city even more collectively behind Aztec teams when/if the Chargers go. The Men's BB program is far and away the most successful program in town, maybe now it will get the recognition it deserves. I don't see it. We've got hundreds of thousands of alums in this city who ARE NOT BEHIND State athletics so what makes you believe that those non-alums will all of a sudden jump on the bandwagon to run to the Q to watch us play S. Alabama and USD? Aztec basketball gets plenty of recognition locally. Not sure what you want other than what we're getting now. Hundreds of Thousands? Or Maybe one hundred thousand?
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Post by aztecbolt on May 20, 2015 8:23:25 GMT -8
Winning is EVERYTHING.
Only the hardcore will go to games and spend money when the team isn't good. The casual fans need a quality, winning product to get them to devote their time and money.
I'm a diehard football fan and I love SDSU but it's pretty tough to watch SDSU football at times. The no name opponents and underachieving just won't bring in casual fans. I do think a new stadium, whether it be their own or with the Chargers will spike interest but after the novelty wears off, it still goes back to winning and having a quality product.
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Post by ab on May 20, 2015 8:24:41 GMT -8
I don't see it. We've got hundreds of thousands of alums in this city who ARE NOT BEHIND State athletics so what makes you believe that those non-alums will all of a sudden jump on the bandwagon to run to the Q to watch us play S. Alabama and USD? Aztec basketball gets plenty of recognition locally. Not sure what you want other than what we're getting now. Hundreds of Thousands? Or Maybe one hundred thousand? Does the exact number really matter?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 8:24:48 GMT -8
Insiders are still saying the Chargers are likely leaving SD. That can't be a good sign. Really? Who art thou insiders you speak of? Kaplan/Smith, 'Saw, Acee etc... They don't know anymore than anybody else. They just get paid to talk or write about what they know and don't know about. Tell us, how many experts who have experience with stadium deals and the NFL think the Chargers are staying in SD as of today?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 8:25:59 GMT -8
Winning is EVERYTHING. Only the hardcore will go to games and spend money when the team isn't good. The casual fans need a quality, winning product to get them to devote their time and money. I'm a diehard football fan and I love SDSU but it's pretty tough to watch SDSU football at times. The no name opponents and underachieving just won't bring in casual fans. I do think a new stadium, whether it be their own or with the Chargers will spike interest but after the novelty wears off, it still goes back to winning and having a quality product. No matter what everyone says about winning please find a G5 team, with a G5 conference schedule, that averages more than 50k a game? Anywhere?
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Post by ab on May 20, 2015 8:26:07 GMT -8
Really? Who art thou insiders you speak of? Kaplan/Smith, 'Saw, Acee etc... They don't know anymore than anybody else. They just get paid to talk or write about what they know and don't know about. Tell us, how many experts who have experience with stadium deals and the NFL think the Chargers are staying in SD as of today? Spanos himself has stated recently that he doesn't want to leave San Diego if things can be worked out. He may not be that expert you want but he's the only one who matters.
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