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Post by thepapacy on Apr 17, 2015 11:14:27 GMT -8
We've had what - 14 players leave early since he arrived here 4 seasons ago? We've had a different point guard every season.? That's two huge reasons why he hasn't exceled, regardless of talent. Aztecs and Lobos have proven that stability/continuity trump talent oftentimes. The guys not a bad coach. He's certainly learning. This season we have the key guys returning and I'm hoping that translates into wins. We've been to the NCAA's twice under Rice. He can do better. Funny, it started with "They aren't Rice's players! He'll do better when he gets his guys in!"... And now we're to "He sends so many to the NBA it's hard to have continuity!" you aren't uk or duke! Of course Rice is a terrible coach, dummy. Give any one of the top 100 coaches in college basketball any roster UNLV has had over the last 4 years and they make the S16 each time. Look, I used to be annoyed by UNLV winning the offseason championships and flaunting the recruiting classes... But when that's all you ever win it seems like a reasonable token to give y'all. Keep plugging away with the NBA guys that lose to Santa Barbara and Dixie Southern under the big strip lights - we'll 'continuity' our way to 'ships. #SAVEDAVE
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Post by pbbroker on Apr 17, 2015 11:20:13 GMT -8
COMPETITION IS GOOD, although it was fun to blow out New Mexico this year, having walk over teams is no fun.
Plus the boys get to go up to the likes of the best!
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Post by retiredaztec on Apr 17, 2015 12:29:50 GMT -8
Yeah, it's the $$$$ thing again. Come 'on !! Maybe he just wanted to stay home and make his city proud. You do realize his... Never mind Yah, some people don't understand life. They don't understand human free will and we are only living our lives, no one else's. This kid made a decision on HIS life, and that is that. It was his decision, not anyone else's. Regardless, UNLV is still a quality program to go play for. True, he had offers to go just about anywhere he wanted, but he chose UNLV. There was some factor compelling him to stay. What was it? it doesn't matter. It was his decision on his only life. There was something he liked about UNLV, and that is why I decided to stay in Vegas. I fell in love with Vegas back in the '70's, would always thought I'd live there. I love the dessert and the life style. (If you don't like either, you can't relate). That said, I can certainly understand why this young man would want to stay home. No doubt Andre Agassi would also understand. My wife, a flight attendant is based in SLC, and has no desire to commute. So as a retiree with no leverage, here we sit. Next best, I'm down there probably more than I should. Ultimately, for some, there's no place like home. I envy him.
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Post by standiego on Apr 17, 2015 12:44:33 GMT -8
The PAC had 4 teams in MM . How many made it to SW16 , was it all 4 . MW had 3 in how many made it past the first weekend -0
As of today 4 teams in the PAC are predicted for the top 25 . MW zero ( maybe UNLV if Wood stays , BSU, SDSU on the Cusp )
2015 HS top 150 recruits . PAC has 25, MW 8, Arizona has 4 of the top 33 , UNLV 3 of the top 85 . CAL , Ducks (3), UCLA , USC, WASH(4) , Stanford , OSU (4) , all have at least 2 top HS recruits in top 150 . only SDSU has 2 from the MW . Fresno and BSU each 1 in the 100-150 group
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Post by soulreb on Apr 17, 2015 14:14:01 GMT -8
I would be worried, but our two best defenders: Winston and Skylar will be guarding their two best players: Wood and Zimmerman. We'll sweep them again
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Post by soulreb on Apr 17, 2015 14:16:37 GMT -8
What makes you think Winston can Guard Wood? Skylar is a good rim protector but Zimm can play in and out. If Wood stays may be to much to handle.
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Post by Azthetic on Apr 17, 2015 16:14:32 GMT -8
Welcome back UNLV trolls. It must be the off-season.
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Post by pbbroker on Apr 17, 2015 16:36:24 GMT -8
What makes you think Winston can Guard Wood? Skylar is a good rim protector but Zimm can play in and out. If Wood stays may be to much to handle. Wood was the LOSER 2 TIMES AGAINST THE AZTECS.................hope he comes back for more!
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Post by alohaboarder on Apr 18, 2015 9:20:04 GMT -8
Maybe its because they were a major national powerhouse not too long ago and have documentaries about their school like the Fab 5 do... And then there's the playing in a pro-style arena with other highly regarded players ensuring scouts will always be around, not to mention family members, and playing in an actual uptempo scheme that routinely sends multiple guys to the draft and just recently sent a middling MW player to the #1 spot. Let's face it, UNLV is the most highly regarded school in the MW DESPITE their shite coaching not because of it. We can get there - nothing special about the city or people - but they have way more cache than we, and every other school on the West coast not named Arizona or UCLA, do. Good for the conference, especially considering the bad coaching. Sour grapes people claiming shady dealings sound EXACTLY like the Lobo trolls that accuse Fisher because of our turn around. respectfully disagree...EVERYONE east of the Pacific ocean knows that SDSU is the class of the MWC... Writers may talk about individual players on other teams...but as far as class and respect go...Aztec basketball stands head and shoulders above the rest of the league (unfortunately just as Boise does in football). We are the best right now. It wouldn't take a lot of explaining to a recruit how many total nba players we've sent. We've only ever made it to the sweet 16 and we don't dominate our league. If the MW is such a bad league then we need to dominate the league and go far in the tourney to prove we're not part of the problem.
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Post by mySTRAS on Apr 18, 2015 13:17:30 GMT -8
Eventually... pure talent... will overcome Coach Rice's ineptness.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Apr 18, 2015 17:29:49 GMT -8
What makes you think Winston can Guard Wood? Skylar is a good rim protector but Zimm can play in and out. If Wood stays may be to much to handle. Year after year we hear this and year after year you finish, well, where you finish. When you sweep the regular season and the tournament, come talk with us.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Apr 18, 2015 20:24:27 GMT -8
Why is this on topic but the threads on our recruits get moved instantly? UNLV sucks! Maybe they finally win a MW title after 15 years but until then get their recruits off our board.
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Post by fisherville on Apr 18, 2015 20:32:54 GMT -8
Zimmerman can't rebound but is very skilled should be a good get for UNLV, I assume he'll be there a couple years, the 1 and done talk for this kid is silly to say the least. Dave Rice will coach UNLV be canned and he'll have a huge sophomore year for UNLV.
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Post by fredgarvinmp on Apr 19, 2015 7:20:16 GMT -8
Counting on Rice to be a BAD coach is simply a defense mechanism for folks who are and should be worried about our status as the conference's elite program. I am old enough to remember when people said Fisher couldn't coach himself out of a paper bag, that he simply "rolled the ball out" to his great recruits. I am simply saying that Rice will figure it out at some point (preferably after he gets fired at UNLV) and if he is still getting the same level of recruits we will be looking up a whole lot.
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Post by standiego on Apr 19, 2015 8:06:42 GMT -8
Interesting decision for Wood , if he comes back and they have a quality run in MM . Is it Wood or the new guys that did it . He will need to be the leader on the stat board for them and for him to get the lime light. He would need to be the top guy down low , works a deal to play at least 30 minutes per game . He will not get as much of the limelight because he plays in MW a poor conference, unless SDSU and BSU also become top 25 teams. compared to other PF/C across the country who play a lot of good competition.. If he does come back , would guess Zimmerman shares time with him . as a back up . Zimmerman is 7 ft , is athletic ,plays similar to Kaleb at Arizona did in HS . Was smart to choose UNLV in the MW a conference that currently have NOT many quality taller centers . He was no where near the same quality of player that most of the other quality centers or PF's that played in most of the HS All Star games . He will be a dominant player in the MW for a Few years but not when he plays against quality teams across the country .
If Wood does come back , they could easily be a top 10 team , as this is hot seat year for their coach .
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on Apr 19, 2015 8:50:55 GMT -8
Maybe the coaches stress scoring and individuals games more than wearing yourself ragged playing D? It has to be something, perhaps the fishing in Lake Mead? Guess we will have to keep getting by with the leftovers ( it's worked pretty well) I didn't know there was any water left in Lake Mead?
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on Apr 19, 2015 8:54:53 GMT -8
Maybe the coaches stress scoring and individuals games more than wearing yourself ragged playing D? It has to be something, perhaps the fishing in Lake Mead? There's water in Lake Mead? I guess we will have to continue struggle getting by with 3* and 4* players out of high school.
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Post by fisherville on Apr 19, 2015 14:22:45 GMT -8
Counting on Rice to be a BAD coach is simply a defense mechanism for folks who are and should be worried about our status as the conference's elite program. I am old enough to remember when people said Fisher couldn't coach himself out of a paper bag, that he simply "rolled the ball out" to his great recruits. I am simply saying that Rice will figure it out at some point (preferably after he gets fired at UNLV) and if he is still getting the same level of recruits we will be looking up a whole lot. Nah, Rice has proven he is a awful coach himself it has nothing to do with a defense mechanism. Fisher never had near the talent that Rice has gotten at UNLV at SDSU, the idea that all coaches become good at some point is downright stupid, which is basically what you are arguing
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Post by fredgarvinmp on Apr 19, 2015 17:05:00 GMT -8
Counting on Rice to be a BAD coach is simply a defense mechanism for folks who are and should be worried about our status as the conference's elite program. I am old enough to remember when people said Fisher couldn't coach himself out of a paper bag, that he simply "rolled the ball out" to his great recruits. I am simply saying that Rice will figure it out at some point (preferably after he gets fired at UNLV) and if he is still getting the same level of recruits we will be looking up a whole lot. Nah, Rice has proven he is a awful coach himself it has nothing to do with a defense mechanism. Fisher never had near the talent that Rice has gotten at UNLV at SDSU, the idea that all coaches become good at some point is downright stupid, which is basically what you are arguing Not sure of your age, but I am talking about his rep at Michigan. Many folks used to say he just wasn't a good coach and simply relied on his recruits raw talent to win games (sound familiar). Not saying all coaches can learn but I argue you insinuating a coach who has ONLY 4 years of head coaching experience CAN'T learn is "downright stupid" as you say. I am simply arguing that IF he continues to recruit like he has AND learns how to coach along the way, it's gonna be a lot of "we need to win the conference tourney to clinch a spot in March" talk each year around here.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 19, 2015 19:11:51 GMT -8
Zimmerman's AAU Oakland Soliders team may be better then UNLV. Zimmerman, Rabb (CAL), Metu (USC), Pflueger (ND), Hazzard (UCI) mobile.twitter.com/D1Circuit
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