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Post by AztecWilliam on Mar 13, 2015 22:23:33 GMT -8
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 15, 2015 11:17:11 GMT -8
Later this year we will start getting 50,000,000 gallons a day from New Carlsbad plant. If it wasn't so hard getting through incredible amount of red tape we could have more of these.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 15, 2015 11:18:28 GMT -8
Graphine will revolutionize desalination.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Mar 17, 2015 9:37:53 GMT -8
We can thank Jerry Sanders for the 10 year delay in the "Toilet to Tap" program that can put millions of gallons of water back into the system. We should be able to recover almost everything that is being pumped into the ocean.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 17, 2015 11:36:05 GMT -8
We can thank Jerry Sanders for the 10 year delay in the "Toilet to Tap" program that can put millions of gallons of water back into the system. We should be able to recover almost everything that is being pumped into the ocean. Why "Toilet to Tap", when a lot more water is used and goes down the drain and not into the sewage system?
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Mar 17, 2015 15:33:09 GMT -8
We can thank Jerry Sanders for the 10 year delay in the "Toilet to Tap" program that can put millions of gallons of water back into the system. We should be able to recover almost everything that is being pumped into the ocean. Why "Toilet to Tap", when a lot more water is used and goes down the drain and not into the sewage system? I mean everything that goes into the treatment plants. That could also include storm water but right now, aside from some simple screening, it is not treated.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 19, 2015 15:28:32 GMT -8
Why "Toilet to Tap", when a lot more water is used and goes down the drain and not into the sewage system? I mean everything that goes into the treatment plants. That could also include storm water but right now, aside from some simple screening, it is not treated. But why include sewage, which is treated separately, when that is a much harder sell? Strategic mistake. We should be reusing all that water. working against it behind the scenes it is the same radical environmental groups that oppose desalination. They are against anything that will bring infrastructure that allows a higher population. They are hoping we run out of water.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Mar 20, 2015 10:19:19 GMT -8
Well turn off the faucet!
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Post by aztecwin on Mar 20, 2015 10:31:56 GMT -8
If the infrastructure plumbing had been laid out to separate the sewage from the "grey water" we would have much less of a problem. Retrofitting would be horribly expensive. Building more storage and more desal plants is a better way.
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 20, 2015 11:19:48 GMT -8
I mean everything that goes into the treatment plants. That could also include storm water but right now, aside from some simple screening, it is not treated. But why include sewage, which is treated separately, when that is a much harder sell? Strategic mistake. We should be reusing all that water. working against it behind the scenes it is the same radical environmental groups that oppose desalination. They are against anything that will bring infrastructure that allows a higher population. They are hoping we run out of water. Haha. "Radical environmentalists" against infrastructure that allows a higher population. Let's start in your neighborhood...and you will be the first one crying. I have seen it a million times. What a joke.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Mar 20, 2015 19:49:51 GMT -8
It's one thing to desalinate sea water and another to get it where it's needed inland. That's why I think that more nuclear power plants should be built. You don't like nukes? Okay, if not nukes, what? I'm open to suggestions. A giant bucket brigade is not going to get the water from the ocean up to Alpine, that's for sure.
AzWm
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Post by aztecmusician on Mar 20, 2015 22:26:59 GMT -8
Piss poor planning over the years by greedy state officials who have ignored the fact that from Oxnard to West Texas including most of Northern Mexico is really one large desert and we have 60 Million people living in this desert! A population can grow only as large as its water supply will allow and there are only 2 decent sized rivers (Colorado & Rio Grande) flowing through the region. Insanity.
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Post by aztecwin on Mar 21, 2015 9:52:19 GMT -8
It's one thing to desalinate sea water and another to get it where it's needed inland. That's why I think that more nuclear power plants should be built. You don't like nukes? Okay, if not nukes, what? I'm open to suggestions. A giant bucket brigade is not going to get the water from the ocean up to Alpine, that's for sure. AzWm Of course, pumps are the answer. Now how to power those pumps efficiently is the question. I suggest that this is one use for solar power.
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Post by ab on Mar 22, 2015 14:09:20 GMT -8
Best to drink more beer then and don't flush every time you go.
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Post by tuff on Mar 22, 2015 16:13:15 GMT -8
Think I will retire on a cruise ship.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 23, 2015 11:05:06 GMT -8
It's one thing to desalinate sea water and another to get it where it's needed inland. That's why I think that more nuclear power plants should be built. You don't like nukes? Okay, if not nukes, what? I'm open to suggestions. A giant bucket brigade is not going to get the water from the ocean up to Alpine, that's for sure. AzWm Of course, pumps are the answer. Now how to power those pumps efficiently is the question. I suggest that this is one use for solar power. The water from the desalination station will be sold along the coast. There is a lot of water usage that never gets above 100 feet of sea level. We don't need all usage to be desalination. We just need a little boost from that source. There is another even bigger (way bigger) desalination plant planned for Oceanside. Graphine will be used at some point. That will reduce the power needed for desalination by a couple of orders of magnitude.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 25, 2015 15:07:49 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Mar 25, 2015 20:00:25 GMT -8
I had forgotten about Graphene. Still think that movement of water will be very important.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 25, 2015 21:14:46 GMT -8
Graphine will make it so simple and reliable that we may reuse a lot of water at a micro level of usage instead of recentralizing and redistributing.
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 24, 2015 13:40:20 GMT -8
Imagine taking a shower that simply cycles water instead of using new water all the time. Maybe a final rinse with fresh water. Add a simple graphine filter and it will all be fresh and you can take a shower with a couple of gallons of water instead of 35 gallons. Using plant friendly soap allows used water to be diverted to a watering system for your lawn/plants/trees. That is recycling that would really work.
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