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Post by standiego on Apr 20, 2015 9:37:02 GMT -8
First and most important develop a Championship MW team or better on the field so fans are coming out to watch their home team Aztecs play . Not going to get a good number of fans there until that happens .BSU increased their fans base by WINNING first , that is what we need to do . going forward it is going to be more difficult to get P5 teams here as PAC , B12 , BIG all go to 9 conference and 3 OOC games . so every other year they are only going to want to schedule 1 road OOC game . P5 schools will decide is it better to play a decent OOOC opponent to build up their resume or a cupcake . Also the terms / money to play them .
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 20, 2015 9:37:14 GMT -8
So I'm guessing Cal, Penn St,Northern Illinois and Arizona State isn't good enough for you guys??? Only not good enough for the un-informed who think we should just dial in USC, Notre Dame, Ohio State every year. We keep trying to educate, but some here can't learn. This is the best overall upcoming three years of Aztec scheduling I recall. BIG10, Pac 12, MAC, Sun Belt, and winnable FCS games. That is a formula for success, challenge and marketing opportunity all rolled into one. Every year? Sorry but that's just BS. What us alleged haters have been saying is if Whyoming and some of the other MWC bottom feeders can get a big boy school to their tiny house in the middle of nowhere a couple times a decade, that's the absolute minimum that should be expected of Jim Sterk.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 20, 2015 9:41:53 GMT -8
Perhaps not when we are residing in an embarrassing conference, wherein our mates are themselves lamentable, AND, we are--supposedly---tying to look skyward, to the Top-25, and impress the Power Conferences. How exactly would that unfold? It would unfold exactly as Marshall's season unfolded last year. They played a milquetoast schedule against the likes of Akron, Rhode Island and other unknowns, were ranked as high as 18 and ended up in the top 25 even after a late season loss to Western Kentucky. Here is their 2014 schedule: Marshall 2014Being in the MWC prevents us from being considered for the big money round, But it wouldn't prevent us from cracking the top 25. Seriously? To be clear: You'd like us to emulate Marshall? I suspect you and Sterk are communing together.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 20, 2015 9:52:32 GMT -8
Schedule is no different than any other team. Just need to win most if not all games...oh and if we didnt have such fickle fans who seem to care more about who we are playing than getting to see "their" team play would probably help too...but we can't have it all, amirite? Exactly. Sure seems to be plenty of fans showing up to support SDSU basketball when we play the likes of CSU San Marcos and San Diego Christian. Can you imagine what our fan base would do if we played those schools in football (if they had football teams)? Many would have pre-mature heart attacks and strokes. It is about the SDSU Aztecs; not the other team. More specifically, it's about pride in the Aztecs and defeating garbage teams from a lousy conference doesn't exactly create it. # of basketball victories over top 25 teams from outside the MWC since Rocky Long came to Montezuma Mesa = 7 # of football victories over top 25 teams from outside the MWC since Rocky came to the Mesa = goose egg I've had season football tickets for 17 years and am fed up with excuses. I urge everyone to make the coming season an excuse free one.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 20, 2015 10:07:31 GMT -8
Schedule is no different than any other team. Just need to win most if not all games...oh and if we didnt have such fickle fans who seem to care more about who we are playing than getting to see "their" team play would probably help too...but we can't have it all, amirite? You are probably right, we are like all the other desultory programs: Talk about the top 25, but act like the bottom 60.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 20, 2015 10:16:53 GMT -8
Exactly. Sure seems to be plenty of fans showing up to support SDSU basketball when we play the likes of CSU San Marcos and San Diego Christian. Can you imagine what our fan base would do if we played those schools in football (if they had football teams)? Many would have pre-mature heart attacks and strokes. It is about the SDSU Aztecs; not the other team. More specifically, it's about pride in the Aztecs and defeating garbage teams from a lousy conference doesn't exactly create it. # of basketball victories over top 25 teams from outside the MWC since Rocky Long came to Montezuma Mesa = 7 # of football victories over top 25 teams from outside the MWC since Rocky came to the Mesa = goose egg I've had season football tickets for 17 years and am fed up with excuses. I urge everyone to make the coming season an excuse free one. 100% Agree I expect to win at least 10 games this season. Just Win; No Excuses!
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 20, 2015 10:20:45 GMT -8
Schedule is no different than any other team. Just need to win most if not all games...oh and if we didnt have such fickle fans who seem to care more about who we are playing than getting to see "their" team play would probably help too...but we can't have it all, amirite? You are probably right, we are like all the other desultory programs: Talk about the top 25, but act like the bottom 60. How many of the 65 P5 teams are actually Top 25 teams? SDSU is solidly in the center of the FBS -- not in the top 40 (1/3) ... but not in the bottom third either (teams 85-128) We are working our way up the chain slowly and the schedules are improving too ... eventually we will be indistinguishable from the bottom 1/2 of the P5 as we compete to be in the top 25. Yes, it took some time to come back from the 2 decades of futility that preceded this run of bowl games and improving athletics on the grid-iron -- but the expectations that we would immediately be a top level program or not have to pay in some way for trying to jump ship to the BE/Big West -- then having to return to the MWC is simplistic. I know some of you aren't happy unless you can complain about the empty half of the filled glass, and nothing I say will change that.
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Post by Snohomie-Aztec on Apr 20, 2015 10:30:47 GMT -8
It would unfold exactly as Marshall's season unfolded last year. They played a milquetoast schedule against the likes of Akron, Rhode Island and other unknowns, were ranked as high as 18 and ended up in the top 25 even after a late season loss to Western Kentucky. Here is their 2014 schedule: Marshall 2014Being in the MWC prevents us from being considered for the big money round, But it wouldn't prevent us from cracking the top 25. Seriously? To be clear: You'd like us to emulate Marshall? I suspect you and Sterk are communing together. The question was how to crack the top 25. The point was that it can be done with almost any schedule.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Apr 20, 2015 11:40:23 GMT -8
Seriously? To be clear: You'd like us to emulate Marshall? I suspect you and Sterk are communing together. The question was how to crack the top 25. The point was that it can be done with almost any schedule. You get it. Just like Marshall did, until they fell on their face.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Apr 20, 2015 11:46:54 GMT -8
Only not good enough for the un-informed who think we should just dial in USC, Notre Dame, Ohio State every year. We keep trying to educate, but some here can't learn. This is the best overall upcoming three years of Aztec scheduling I recall. BIG10, Pac 12, MAC, Sun Belt, and winnable FCS games. That is a formula for success, challenge and marketing opportunity all rolled into one. Every year? Sorry but that's just BS. What us alleged haters have been saying is if Whyoming and some of the other MWC bottom feeders can get a big boy school to their tiny house in the middle of nowhere a couple times a decade, that's the absolute minimum that should be expected of Jim Sterk. Yes, and good for Wyoming and Fresno for being able to pull that off. In the meantime, we thought we were going to the Big East. It does appear we were caught flat footed, but not for long. Then we started over and now, we have Pac 12 teams on H&H plus top MAC team. What would you have Sterk do now that he has not done? I tire of pointing out that P5 schools see coming here as a chancy risk. Not so looking at Wyoming for example where victory is assumed.
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 20, 2015 12:09:11 GMT -8
Perhaps not when we are residing in an embarrassing conference, wherein our mates are themselves lamentable, AND, we are--supposedly---tying to look skyward, to the Top-25, and impress the Power Conferences. How exactly would that unfold? Our conference is terrible. There are no two ways about it. The only way SDSU is going to been seen as relevant by the public and by the P5 conferences is if they start winning P5 games out of conference, then kick the living $hit out of the MW. Not just once, but every single year. I am not suggesting a sweep of every P5 game we have, but at least half the time win the damn game instead of crapping the bed. How do you expect to be part of a P5 conference if you are afraid to schedule games with them? The "you" I refer to is the posters on this board that are afraid we will be bruised and battered for MWC play. Time is running short for our program and all I keep seeing is the same ol', same ol'. Gotta make things happen now. Part of that includes: DONT LOSE TO NAVY ON YOUR F'ing HOME FIELD! I think you are misguided. Playing two decent P5 teams a year is perfect. We will impress P5 conferences by playing on New Year's day and winning. Playing on New Year's day this season requires winning one of the two P5 games and winning the MWC conference championship game. Playing 3 P5 teams OOC means we would likely have to win 2 of the 3 to achieve that goal. 2 is the perfect number of P5 teams to play. Playing a Cal Poly at home allows us to have a home game that doesn't require a return game or a great outlay of cash. It is a good way to go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 12:33:24 GMT -8
Only not good enough for the un-informed who think we should just dial in USC, Notre Dame, Ohio State every year. We keep trying to educate, but some here can't learn. This is the best overall upcoming three years of Aztec scheduling I recall. BIG10, Pac 12, MAC, Sun Belt, and winnable FCS games. That is a formula for success, challenge and marketing opportunity all rolled into one. Every year? Sorry but that's just BS. What us alleged haters have been saying is if Whyoming and some of the other MWC bottom feeders can get a big boy school to their tiny house in the middle of nowhere a couple times a decade, that's the absolute minimum that should be expected of Jim Sterk. Check out WHYOS OOC this year, 2015, then tell me how they're doing. We get a "big boy school" every other year, so not sure what your point is...sound more like a CFB fan than an Aztec fan to me. That's ok, you can be more of a CFB fan, then an Aztec, your prerogative.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Apr 20, 2015 12:41:59 GMT -8
Every year? Sorry but that's just BS. What us alleged haters have been saying is if Whyoming and some of the other MWC bottom feeders can get a big boy school to their tiny house in the middle of nowhere a couple times a decade, that's the absolute minimum that should be expected of Jim Sterk. Check out WHYOS OOC this year, 2015, then tell me how they're doing. We get a "big boy school" every other year, so not sure what your point is...sound more like a CFB fan than an Aztec fan to me. That's ok, you can be more of a CFB fan, then an Aztec, your prerogative. Everyone dreams of a home OOC schedule of North Dakota and Eastern Michigan! Plus they have a roadie to Appalachian State!
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 20, 2015 12:45:46 GMT -8
Check out WHYOS OOC this year, 2015, then tell me how they're doing. We get a "big boy school" every other year, so not sure what your point is...sound more like a CFB fan than an Aztec fan to me. That's ok, you can be more of a CFB fan, then an Aztec, your prerogative. Everyone dreams of a home OOC schedule of North Dakota and Eastern Michigan! Plus they have a roadie to Appalachian State! adding to that WYO does have future H&Hs with Nebraska and Missouri ... but I don't see that as materially different than our H&Hs with UCLA & Arizona
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Apr 20, 2015 12:47:52 GMT -8
Everyone dreams of a home OOC schedule of North Dakota and Eastern Michigan! Plus they have a roadie to Appalachian State! adding to that WYO does have future H&Hs with Nebraska and Missouri ... but I don't see that as materially different than our H&Hs with UCLA & Arizona And a return game with Oregon. These may be part of 2:1 deals, Whyoming likes those.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 12:56:51 GMT -8
Everyone dreams of a home OOC schedule of North Dakota and Eastern Michigan! Plus they have a roadie to Appalachian State! adding to that WYO does have future H&Hs with Nebraska and Missouri ... but I don't see that as materially different than our H&Hs with UCLA & Arizona To me its more important to have PAC schools on the schedule than anyone else, that's if we really believe we can rise to a top 25 program that is... The reason I say this is they are our direction competition for talent. Plus they reside in the conference we covet the most, even if we'll never be a part of it. Now that we are locked in with HnH for the next 8+ years we need to win 2/3's of those. If we do that expect better recruiting, better home games(outside the PAC), and better attendance. I think the saying is, "just win baby!"
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 20, 2015 13:04:38 GMT -8
adding to that WYO does have future H&Hs with Nebraska and Missouri ... but I don't see that as materially different than our H&Hs with UCLA & Arizona And a return game with Oregon. These may be part of 2:1 deals, Whyoming likes those. They don't appear to be 2-for-1s in the case of Missouri or Nebraska (H&H in 2011 & 2013) ... but Texas was a 2-for-1 (2009, 2010 & 2012)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 13:15:34 GMT -8
2fors are risky because the P5 usually gets their 2 home games first and will then sometimes try to buy their way out of the 3rd (away) game. I think we should avoid that route at all costs.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 20, 2015 15:35:13 GMT -8
Every year? Sorry but that's just BS. What us alleged haters have been saying is if Whyoming and some of the other MWC bottom feeders can get a big boy school to their tiny house in the middle of nowhere a couple times a decade, that's the absolute minimum that should be expected of Jim Sterk. Check out WHYOS OOC this year, 2015, then tell me how they're doing. We get a "big boy school" every other year, so not sure what your point is...sound more like a CFB fan than an Aztec fan to me. That's ok, you can be more of a CFB fan, then an Aztec, your prerogative. Your definition of a big boy is not the same as mine. I won't list them again but there are 15 which are viewed as having football cache nationally. Only one, USC, plays in the Pac-12.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Apr 20, 2015 15:37:34 GMT -8
2fors are risky because the P5 usually gets their 2 home games first and will then sometimes try to buy their way out of the 3rd (away) game. I think we should avoid that route at all costs. Gee . . . maybe we might not have to concern ourselves about that if the games were at their place, at Qualcomm and then at their place again? Time for Sterk to start earning his money. And with due respect, how some of you continue to defend the man over and over is just amazing.
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