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Post by aztecalum99 on Nov 21, 2014 20:20:40 GMT -8
Give Rice another extension! !!
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Post by KDub on Nov 21, 2014 20:30:46 GMT -8
Rice could make a good recruiting assistant for us after the end of the season.
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Post by Gundo on Nov 21, 2014 22:32:33 GMT -8
Stanford rolls over UNLV by 29. 89-60. The Aztecs are not the only ones who have trouble scoring and lowBlows beat George Mason today.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 21, 2014 22:44:49 GMT -8
What is a "Standford"?
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Post by aztecforlife29 on Nov 21, 2014 22:48:21 GMT -8
When the thread started I thought they were playing a DII school I had never heard of. I had to check espn.
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Post by fatfreddy on Nov 22, 2014 0:26:19 GMT -8
36-10. Trying to kill Tark You mean the coach who's in the hospital? You think Stanford is trying to kill him?
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Post by uncledougy on Nov 22, 2014 2:04:36 GMT -8
To quote coach Fish "we are good". And we are. The points will come. Most guys were role players or 1yr players. These early games are designed to work out the kinks. Some guys will step up, that I am sure of. Hopefully it will be next week when the chips are in the table for the first time.
Don't forget the team is winning while working out the offense. That is awesome!
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Post by jcljorgenson on Nov 22, 2014 6:14:31 GMT -8
How does Rice consistently do so little with so much?
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Post by Den60 on Nov 22, 2014 8:03:01 GMT -8
Rice could make a good recruiting assistant for us after the end of the season. No, Fisher only recruits players that fits what he wants to do. Rice goes after the players with the most stars and hopes they can all play together.
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Post by zollner on Nov 22, 2014 9:08:20 GMT -8
To quote coach Fish "we are good". And we are. The points will come. Most guys were role players or 1yr players. These early games are designed to work out the kinks. Some guys will step up, that I am sure of. Hopefully it will be next week when the chips are in the table for the first time. Don't forget the team is winning while working out the offense. That is awesome! After the game interviews produced some interesting comments, for one Zebo who said that we, meaning the team, make shots all the time in practice, Fisher said the same thing as did Leitner. I think Polee is pressing, and from watching basketball for the last 60 years all it takes is one player to start hitting some shots and the rest of the team will follow.
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Post by keepersdsu on Nov 22, 2014 11:05:18 GMT -8
To quote coach Fish "we are good". And we are. The points will come. Most guys were role players or 1yr players. These early games are designed to work out the kinks. Some guys will step up, that I am sure of. Hopefully it will be next week when the chips are in the table for the first time. Don't forget the team is winning while working out the offense. That is awesome! After the game interviews produced some interesting comments, for one Zebo who said that we, meaning the team, make shots all the time in practice, Fisher said the same thing as did Leitner. I think Polee is pressing, and from watching basketball for the last 60 years all it takes is one player to start hitting some shots and the rest of the team will follow. I agree with this, and will take it a step further. I think the whole team is pressing right now. They all know that they don't have X this year, and some will need to step up on offense. I see it in their shots and how they are hoping that they go in, instead of knowing that they will go in. I'm glad that we are winning, if not, it would be tougher on the whole team. Fish is the perfect coach to have right now. He will continue to say the right things and have the team focus on D which can win us a lot of games this year.
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Post by standiego on Nov 22, 2014 11:30:59 GMT -8
As some have predicted MW could be a 2 bid MM . Any team that wants an at large bid to MM will need to earn it by 12/30 . Lobos are getting better play now from their All Star-JC transfer forward , but do not play any quality teams the remainder of their OOC. UNLV new it would take its lumps early in OOC , will be interesting to see how it does near the end of OOC . Does BSU play Wisconsin today? Key games for the Aztecs in MAUI - must beat BYU and get at least one other W . Also a W at Washington or Cincy ( not easy and during finals time ). Washington and CSU won last night over non rated teams. AZTEC offense has not been good , but it seemed we got better looks in Bakersfield game , shots just did not fall . Maybe give the 1-3-1 or another zone a try to kick start the offense , to get fast break transition points.
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Post by keepersdsu on Nov 22, 2014 11:36:39 GMT -8
MWC will be a 1 bid league this year unless the Aztecs don't win the MWC tourney. It's that simple. Boise will get steamrolled in Madison today. I remember the days when some were saying that the MWC was sooooo much better than the Big West. Not so much if we weren't in it.
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Post by aztecttcas on Nov 22, 2014 12:29:11 GMT -8
MWC will be a 1 bid league this year unless the Aztecs don't win the MWC tourney. It's that simple. Boise will get steamrolled in Madison today. I remember the days when some were saying that the MWC was sooooo much better than the Big West. Not so much if we weren't in it. Funny you say that. I was thinking something similar. Had sdsu joined the Big West...it wouldn't as bad today as it looked 2 years ago. Long beach st isn't bad. The MWC isn't that much better than the BW if Sdsu wasn't in it
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Post by azteccc on Nov 22, 2014 12:48:22 GMT -8
MWC will be a 1 bid league this year unless the Aztecs don't win the MWC tourney. It's that simple. Boise will get steamrolled in Madison today. I remember the days when some were saying that the MWC was sooooo much better than the Big West. Not so much if we weren't in it. Funny you say that. I was thinking something similar. Had sdsu joined the Big West...it wouldn't as bad today as it looked 2 years ago. Long beach st isn't bad. The MWC isn't that much better than the BW if Sdsu wasn't in it I mean, you guys can think that if you want... but facts and all. RPI doesn't have a large enough sample size to yet be meaningful, but here is Sagarin (and this makes no mention of facilities/talent level/etc.):: You can check this weekly, along with realtimerpi, to get a sense of the differences between conferences from top to bottom. The real issue is that our OOC - that everyone wants call our "toughest ever" - really isn't going to be rated too highly. We'll have a couple chances for top 100 wins, maybe one top 50, and maybe one top 25 if we play Arizona and they do well. That OOC still wouldn't make up for no top 100 games in conference. #18 BIG WEST 98 Long Beach State 103 UC Irvine 129 UC Santa Barbara 185 Hawai'i 202 Cal Poly-SLO 214 CS Northridge 236 CS Fullerton 239 UC Davis 321 UC Riverside #10 MOUNTAIN WEST 18 San Diego State 67 Boise State 80 Colorado State 93 New Mexico 104 Utah State 109 Wyoming 118 Nevada 163 UNLV 176 Air Force 195 Fresno State 292 San Jose State
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Post by hoobs on Nov 22, 2014 12:53:16 GMT -8
MWC will be a 1 bid league this year unless the Aztecs don't win the MWC tourney. It's that simple. Boise will get steamrolled in Madison today. I remember the days when some were saying that the MWC was sooooo much better than the Big West. Not so much if we weren't in it. Funny you say that. I was thinking something similar. Had sdsu joined the Big West...it wouldn't as bad today as it looked 2 years ago. Long beach st isn't bad. The MWC isn't that much better than the BW if Sdsu wasn't in it Long Beach St might very well be able to come 2nd in the MW this season.
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Post by keepersdsu on Nov 22, 2014 13:29:42 GMT -8
Funny you say that. I was thinking something similar. Had sdsu joined the Big West...it wouldn't as bad today as it looked 2 years ago. Long beach st isn't bad. The MWC isn't that much better than the BW if Sdsu wasn't in it I mean, you guys can think that if you want... but facts and all. RPI doesn't have a large enough sample size to yet be meaningful, but here is Sagarin (and this makes no mention of facilities/talent level/etc.):: You can check this weekly, along with realtimerpi, to get a sense of the differences between conferences from top to bottom. The real issue is that our OOC - that everyone wants call our "toughest ever" - really isn't going to be rated too highly. We'll have a couple chances for top 100 wins, maybe one top 50, and maybe one top 25 if we play Arizona and they do well. That OOC still wouldn't make up for no top 100 games in conference. #18 BIG WEST 98 Long Beach State 103 UC Irvine 129 UC Santa Barbara 185 Hawai'i 202 Cal Poly-SLO 214 CS Northridge 236 CS Fullerton 239 UC Davis 321 UC Riverside #10 MOUNTAIN WEST 18 San Diego State 67 Boise State 80 Colorado State 93 New Mexico 104 Utah State 109 Wyoming 118 Nevada 163 UNLV 176 Air Force 195 Fresno State 292 San Jose State You are right that RPI in the Big West isn't as good as in the MWC. But I would go out on a limb and say that with the exception of SDSU, 1 maybe 2 teams in the MWC will have RPI's in the top 100. That means that we will have 2-4 games against top 100 teams in conf. If we were in the Big West, I would think that our Non-Conf would probably have 2-3 more games against possible top 100 teams to make up for what we wouldn't have in conf. Bill can correct me on how many top 100 RPI teams there may be in the MWC this year. Again, this is all speculation as there is still a lot of BBall to be played.
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Post by keepersdsu on Nov 22, 2014 13:33:04 GMT -8
I mean, you guys can think that if you want... but facts and all. RPI doesn't have a large enough sample size to yet be meaningful, but here is Sagarin (and this makes no mention of facilities/talent level/etc.):: You can check this weekly, along with realtimerpi, to get a sense of the differences between conferences from top to bottom. The real issue is that our OOC - that everyone wants call our "toughest ever" - really isn't going to be rated too highly. We'll have a couple chances for top 100 wins, maybe one top 50, and maybe one top 25 if we play Arizona and they do well. That OOC still wouldn't make up for no top 100 games in conference. #18 BIG WEST 98 Long Beach State 103 UC Irvine 129 UC Santa Barbara 185 Hawai'i 202 Cal Poly-SLO 214 CS Northridge 236 CS Fullerton 239 UC Davis 321 UC Riverside #10 MOUNTAIN WEST 18 San Diego State 67 Boise State 80 Colorado State 93 New Mexico 104 Utah State 109 Wyoming 118 Nevada 163 UNLV 176 Air Force 195 Fresno State 292 San Jose State You are right that RPI in the Big West isn't as good as in the MWC. But I would go out on a limb and say that with the exception of SDSU, 1 maybe 2 teams in the MWC will have RPI's in the top 100. That means that we will have 2-4 games against top 100 teams in conf. If we were in the Big West, I would think that our Non-Conf would probably have 2-3 more games against possible top 100 teams to make up for what we wouldn't have in conf. Bill can correct me on how many top 100 RPI teams there may be in the MWC this year. Again, this is all speculation as there is still a lot of BBall to be played. In addition, if you take #18 SDSU and add that to the Big West I'm sure that the #18 would get smaller. In contrast, the #10 would get bigger.
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Post by azteccc on Nov 22, 2014 14:08:14 GMT -8
You are right that RPI in the Big West isn't as good as in the MWC. But I would go out on a limb and say that with the exception of SDSU, 1 maybe 2 teams in the MWC will have RPI's in the top 100. That means that we will have 2-4 games against top 100 teams in conf. If we were in the Big West, I would think that our Non-Conf would probably have 2-3 more games against possible top 100 teams to make up for what we wouldn't have in conf. Bill can correct me on how many top 100 RPI teams there may be in the MWC this year. Again, this is all speculation as there is still a lot of BBall to be played. In addition, if you take #18 SDSU and add that to the Big West I'm sure that the #18 would get smaller. In contrast, the #10 would get bigger. It isn't about relative conference ranking. Never has been, since that is a completely useless measure that is only actually calculated by people outside the NCAA selection committee. What matters to the selection committee, outside of overall record, are wins versus the top 25, 50 and 100 in the RPI metric, along with our own RPI. At the very top end, it becomes looking at individual wins against the best teams and where those games were played. Not one team currently in the BW will end the year with a top 100 RPI, so we would have had no chance for a good win in league. Any league loss to a team outside the top 2 would have been a bad loss. If we lost in the BW conference tournament, we'd be a bubble team. This year everyone thinks we have our toughest OOC ever. That toughest OOC ever will include a few top 100 games (<5), one maybe two top 50 games, and at best one top 25 game. When you start trying to piece together how we'd be a decent NCAA seed, it's tough to figure out unless you want to claim we'd go undefeated. And if you're claiming that, then the BW probably isn't such a good league after all, huh? Bottom line - it is DAMN good for SDSU basketball that we stayed. Looking at our fball team, it probably was good for them too. NO reason to make a lateral move to the Big East when we had the chance - was dumb at the time and still would have been a terrible idea. Rehashing this is like trying to convince climate change deniers that the Earth is f'ed - so I'll leave it with that.
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Post by keepersdsu on Nov 22, 2014 15:02:22 GMT -8
Another future opponent in action last night was Long Beach State. They took down Kansas State, who will be in Maui. Great win for the Beach.
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