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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jul 29, 2014 12:55:23 GMT -8
The West Coast offense is really too complicated for college and you need an experienced QB and WR's to run it which is why I prefer the spread offense. Simple and difficult to defend, especially with the uptempo nature that teams are using now. That has been the knock, the QB & WRs need a lot of practice time together and the WRs need to make the proper reads of the defense. It sort of worked for Dorrell at UCla but in the end he got the boot. Here's to the proper reads!
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Post by phantom on Jul 29, 2014 15:15:37 GMT -8
Compared to modern passing offenses, the west coast is much easier to grasp as far as reads....
And as far as our offense, I think we'll have an even greater advantage moving forward if we stick w/ our smash mouth offense. Very few teams practice extensivley on taking on a pulling guard and fullbacks and I'm sure the good lord didnt stop creating young men who end up at about 5'11 240 w/ a taste for crushing opponents. So there should be some top notch FB types out there for us to pick up. Bottom line, were never going to out speed anyone but we can out "tough" and punish other teams who are going w/ lighter guys on D. I think the a balance between Ludwigs smash mouth and Toledo's west coast is optimal for our offensive success.
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Post by badfish on Jul 29, 2014 15:55:24 GMT -8
on another note, coach Long was on 1090 yesterday and was acting like he had a complete personality transplant in the off season. maybe i just hadn't heard much from him recently, but he was joking with the guys, talking about non-football stuff, and just came across as an overall great guy. not that he's not a great guy, but in most interviews and such he comes across pretty direct, to the point and not too personable. it was good to hear. I hope so, last year he seemed pissed off with how the team looked in fall camp and we went 0-3.
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Post by aztech on Jul 29, 2014 18:04:57 GMT -8
on another note, coach Long was on 1090 yesterday and was acting like he had a complete personality transplant in the off season. maybe i just hadn't heard much from him recently, but he was joking with the guys, talking about non-football stuff, and just came across as an overall great guy. not that he's not a great guy, but in most interviews and such he comes across pretty direct, to the point and not too personable. it was good to hear. I hope so, last year he seemed pissed off with how the team looked in fall camp and we went 0-3. LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 19:02:02 GMT -8
The West Coast offense is really too complicated for college and you need an experienced QB and WR's to run it which is why I prefer the spread offense. Simple and difficult to defend, especially with the uptempo nature that teams are using now. Well what coached Toledo is saying is it's going to be West Coast style, not exactly completely West Coast. Which means balanced run and pass it using the short pass as ball control. The problem with the spread is that it turns your defense to MUSH Baylor is a perfect example but there are a lot of others. Your defense just doesn't get used to the kind of hitting and physical play that goes with playing against a tough run game in practice. Of course you can score 60 points a game you are not going to lose often , but you have to have the players to do it. We have solid receivers and a veteran quarterback but you need a great quarterback and 12 blistering fast receivers to be that good. It's not just my opinion about the effect of the defense of playing against the spread in practice several coaches have told me that's why they don't do it. I think Toledo is going to use a little four wideouts and shotgun now and then, he's a pretty creative guy. The one thing I take away from all this is a lot of optimism, they obviously know they have a pretty damn good team. Like with any team the key players have to stay healthy. That's why in the long run I don't fancy the chances of Utah state and Nevada both their quarterbacks are very good but they are take a lot of hits and both are coming off injuries. I'm really hoping that somebody steps up as a legitimate backup to Quinn..
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Post by fowl on Jul 29, 2014 19:34:31 GMT -8
The West Coast offense is really too complicated for college and you need an experienced QB and WR's to run it which is why I prefer the spread offense. Simple and difficult to defend, especially with the uptempo nature that teams are using now. Well what coached Toledo is saying is it's going to be West Coast style, not exactly completely West Coast. Which means balanced run and pass it using the short pass as ball control. The problem with the spread is that it turns your defense to MUSH Baylor is a perfect example but there are a lot of others. Your defense just doesn't get used to the kind of hitting and physical play that goes with playing against a tough run game in practice. Of course you can score 60 points a game you are not going to lose often , but you have to have the players to do it. We have solid receivers and a veteran quarterback but you need a great quarterback and 12 blistering fast receivers to be that good. It's not just my opinion about the effect of the defense of playing against the spread in practice several coaches have told me that's why they don't do it. I think Toledo is going to use a little four wideouts and shotgun now and then, he's a pretty creative guy. The one thing I take away from all this is a lot of optimism, they obviously know they have a pretty damn good team. Like with any team the key players have to stay healthy. That's why in the long run I don't fancy the chances of Utah state and Nevada both their quarterbacks are very good but they are take a lot of hits and both are coming off injuries. I'm really hoping that somebody steps up as a legitimate backup to Quinn.. This is spot on.
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Post by standiego on Jul 29, 2014 19:57:27 GMT -8
As Toledo said in the conversation on the radio ,balanced attack . Look at what the defense is giving you and exploit it . Use a variety of plays ,try to be unpredictable . Nothing is concrete for play calling. Make adjustments as needed . Spread the ball to a variety of guys. Get the ball to the guys and let them make plays . Get D.P the ball in open space . Nickel and dime them with short passes ,until you have an opportunity to break a long one. Try to avoid third and long . All depends on if the OL is dominating the other team . If they are then you have the opportunity to do a lot of things . Your OL sets the tone for the game .
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 31, 2014 21:00:27 GMT -8
Amen to OL being the deciding factor. If the underachieving OL of 2013 is marginally improved this year, some real good things could happen for us.
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Post by McQuervo on Aug 1, 2014 6:47:54 GMT -8
I think most here underestimate our OL which I see as a strength this year. As I do the Dl btw.
Don't forget Bob will interject his trick plays on every game on top of the "Ball control toss it around O."
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Post by standiego on Aug 1, 2014 7:31:51 GMT -8
The OL can make a decent QB , RB, WR look great by giving the QB time to hit his receivers and holes for the RB to run through. DP will need a few holes to break his runs either between the tackles or on the edge . Give QK some time and he will be able to get the ball to the receivers . IF the OL gets dominated neither works well. Same thing on the Defense . Aztecs will play some good QB's . If we at least bother the other QB, things break down and good things happen for us . No rush and we get picked apart .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 20:15:51 GMT -8
I think most here underestimate our OL which I see as a strength this year. As I do the Dl btw. Don't forget Bob will interject his trick plays on every game on top of the "Ball control toss it around O." The oline is big and strong, a year in the system yeah, going to be nasty.IN the fourth quarter I do not want to play safety against 6'5 310 pound offensive lineman and a rb that can run a 10.7 100. I am going to cheat up and then Toledo and Quinn are going to make me pay.
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Post by standiego on Aug 2, 2014 10:44:52 GMT -8
Nice article in Saturday's UT about QK . Coaches say he does not have the best physical attributes but has what it takes mentally to be a very good QB . Makes good decisions , reads the defense so he will take what the defense gives him . Similar to a coach on the field for the offense . Can turn a broken play into a positive one . If the OL gives him protection so he stays healthy ,Aztecs should have a solid year .
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Post by Ozomahtli on Aug 2, 2014 19:26:29 GMT -8
I hope "unpredictable offense" doesn't evolve into Identity Crisis offense. Dictate the game with Power.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Aug 2, 2014 20:09:31 GMT -8
I hope "unpredictable offense" doesn't evolve into Identity Crisis offense. Dictate the game with Power. We should "announce our presence with authority"
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Post by adammclane on Aug 2, 2014 20:18:51 GMT -8
#1 question I have about the offense: Do we have a kicker?
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Post by ron on Aug 3, 2014 3:46:21 GMT -8
Amen to OL being the deciding factor. If the underachieving OL of 2013 is marginally improved this year, some real good things could happen for us. Speaking of last years OL, I have a question. What happened to Siragusa in that first game? It was the only game last year I didn't watch, so I have no idea. But, he went from starter to barely sniffing the field the rest of the year. Was his performance that bad, or did something else happen?
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