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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 9, 2013 17:01:29 GMT -8
Because they from Fresno. Population: 500,000. They are a small time school in a small time city with a small time atmosphere. If we want to be big time then we have got to stop associating ourselves with the likes of Fresno State. I've got family and friends that played for them in the 90's. This type of statement is the reason why THEY hate us... I will say they are proud (trash talkers) and support their fball. I'd love to play them every year or ever other year to keep it alive. Go Aztecs!!! Go STATE!!! I agree. I would hardly call them small time. BW schools are small time. Wyo is small time for all Div I sports.
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 9, 2013 17:02:09 GMT -8
I hope we keep in the same conference as Fresno State. I agree with a lot of the trashing of the town and the residents, but it is the program that jim Sweeney built and I loved Jim Sweeney. What's so special 'bout Jim's weinie?!? <cue rimshot> Sending apologies to Fembone for sophomoric behavior. Montana boy and former football coach at FCHS!
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Post by Ozomahtli on Jan 9, 2013 17:02:52 GMT -8
My personal distaste goes back to when we had a huge brawl vs them in the '92 season conference finale. Marshall got hurt early and we couldn't overcome it. ditto... Remember Wayne Pittman, broken leg...And his bro Michael ends up going to Fresno state. Those were some heated games!!
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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 9, 2013 17:05:51 GMT -8
My personal distaste goes back to when we had a huge brawl vs them in the '92 season conference finale. Marshall got hurt early and we couldn't overcome it. ditto... Remember Wayne Pittman, broken leg...And his bro Michael goes to Fresno state. Those were some heated games!! Aahhh...so it's a rivalry.
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Post by tonatiuh on Jan 9, 2013 17:09:09 GMT -8
Without reference to the MWC/nBE controversy I think we should play them every year Fred Noonan. You got my vote on that ,Fred! They have been a rival for over 70 years, and no matter who they are I always enjoy seeing our teams play against each other. This rivalery is probably closer than the U$C/UCLA rivalery because no one has a gigantic lead over the other. It is very close.
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Post by zurac315 on Jan 9, 2013 17:53:50 GMT -8
I have always wanted our natural California State School rival (Fresno State) to be part of the same conference as SDSU. I was excited when I heard they were joining the MWC. Granted, they have had down years in Football and Hoops recently, but they have some strong history in both sports and even better in Baseball. I have noticed that many people on this board don't like Fresno State and don't want them in whatever conference we end up in. I am guessing there is some history that I don't know about, but I have been an Aztec fan for a long time so I don't understand it. Why all the hate? I think it would be good to be in the same conference as Fresno. The dislike that comes from some of us older fans is that we got pounded by Fresno State more often than we liked. And in more recent years, while Fresno didn't win the WAC, they beat some very good teams. While many don't think much of Pat Hill, I think he did an excellent job. Who would I rather have Denny Stolz, Tom Craft, Chuck Long and I'll also throw in Al Luginbill or Pat Hill? I'd take Mr. Hill.
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Post by zurac315 on Jan 9, 2013 17:56:12 GMT -8
I've got family and friends that played for them in the 90's. This type of statement is the reason why THEY hate us... I will say they are proud (trash talkers) and support their fball. I'd love to play them every year or ever other year to keep it alive. Go Aztecs!!! Go STATE!!! I agree. I would hardly call them small time. BW schools are small time. Wyo is small time for all Div I sports. Is that the small-time Wyoming school that won more WAC titles than we did and, until Fisher arrived and we got the new arena, often whipped us in basketball as well? I sometimes wonder where this new found arrogance comes from.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 18:22:24 GMT -8
Is that the small-time Wyoming school that won more WAC titles than we did and, until Fisher arrived and we got the new arena, often whipped us in basketball as well? I sometimes wonder where this new found arrogance comes from. Yes, the very one! They of a total of TWO championships in the entire history of the MWC- IN ALL SPORTS! TWO!
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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 9, 2013 18:35:20 GMT -8
Is that the small-time Wyoming school that won more WAC titles than we did and, until Fisher arrived and we got the new arena, often whipped us in basketball as well? I sometimes wonder where this new found arrogance comes from. Yes, the very one! They of a total of TWO championships in the entire history of the MWC- IN ALL SPORTS! TWO! Plus it is a very tiny media market in a little cowboy town.
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Post by jdgaucho on Jan 9, 2013 19:38:47 GMT -8
Attempting to put Fresno and (potentially) SJSU's DI football program out of commission is risky and reckless, JYP. It's hard enough finding quality non-Pac western opponents to play as is. Shutting down two of your closest neighbors would only make things that much tougher and travel costs may start to mount - not to mention fostering ill will amongst your fellow CSUs which is never good for personal or business reasons.
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Post by cpslograd on Jan 9, 2013 19:55:48 GMT -8
I think it might have something to do with fact that Fresno has historically had a good football program and you guys have historically sucked.
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Post by Yoda on Jan 9, 2013 19:59:28 GMT -8
Because they from Fresno. Population: 500,000. They are a small time school in a small time city with a small time atmosphere. If we want to be big time then we have got to stop associating ourselves with the likes of Fresno State. Yeah if there is one thing that you do NOT want to do. it is join a conference, and associate with schools, that are located in small, rural communities. You're way too big and important to associate with such scum. In fact, as an honorary Aztec, I am going to do you the favor of writing to the Big XII Conference TONIGHT, and telling them what you think of them. You're welcome... Texas – Austin, TX (820,611) Texas Christian – Fort Worth, TX (758,738) Fresno State – Fresno, CA (501,362)Texas Tech – Lubbock, TX (233,740) Baylor – Waco, TX (126,697) Oklahoma – Norman, OK, (113,273) Kansas – Lawrence, KS (88,727) Iowa State – Ames, IA (59,042) Kansas State – Manhattan, KS (52,281) Oklahoma State – Stillwater, OK (46,048) West Virginia – Morgantown WV (30,293) But don't worry. When we get in, we'll still play you on an OOC basis. We'd never abandon our little sister totally. Yoda out... .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 20:10:02 GMT -8
I think it might have something to do with fact that Fresno has historically had a good football program and you guys have historically sucked. thats historically inaccurate
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 9, 2013 20:10:22 GMT -8
I don't like Fresno, but I sure don't hate them. I remember a rivalry when I was in school. I would be happy to see the teams play every year.
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Post by cpslograd on Jan 9, 2013 20:34:44 GMT -8
I think it might have something to do with fact that Fresno has historically had a good football program and you guys have historically sucked. thats historically inaccurate Pretty accurate for most of the past three decades. I admit I like watching your offense more than the flag football crap the Dogs run now though.
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Post by Yoda on Jan 9, 2013 20:55:48 GMT -8
Come on, Yoda. I like you and all, but certainly you remember the segment from Sesame Street: "Which of these things just doesn't belong here"? HINT: The one on your list above is colored red. The list you've given here (again, excluding one) is chock full of nationwide academic and/or athletic tradition and renown. SDSU doesn't belong on that list either, in case you were wondering. I was responding to a specific claim that SDSU should not associate with "the likes" of a "small time school in a small time city with a small time atmosphere". I was merely pointing out the absurdity of such an argument while, concurrently, doing everything you possibly can to position yourselves for just such an association. I wasn't addressing the question of whether or not we belonged in the Big XII -- just showing our population in relation to the current members of that conference. Yoda out... .
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Post by mattpohl on Jan 10, 2013 0:25:13 GMT -8
I didn't see this one, but I may have missed it. Because they are Fresno State. Hang in there, Matt
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Post by survalli on Jan 10, 2013 0:30:32 GMT -8
was impressed by their team...and their Coach, is going to be a good one.
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