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Post by aztec70 on Oct 9, 2012 21:00:51 GMT -8
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 13, 2012 12:13:58 GMT -8
I really don't think I am worried about a Greek reich or territorial aspirations. They can't manage themselves, let alone some attempt to take over their former empire a couple millenia ago. With that, they need to become fiscally responsible and stop offering ridiculous social programs without an economic model to pay for them. Fascism has no future.
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Post by aztecwin on Oct 14, 2012 7:00:47 GMT -8
I find such a suggestion the equivalent of a mouse crawling up an elephant's leg with rape on his mind. Don't you think that Merkel should be giving more thought to how Germany can limit its exposure to irresponsible members of the EU?
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 14, 2012 7:04:08 GMT -8
Great analogy.  Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Oct 14, 2012 10:18:15 GMT -8
Empire? Stop being foolish. Look up "Golden Dawn". They are a far right Greek political party that is increasing in popularity due to the economic conditions there. For the history challenged, similiar economic conditions is what made Germany ripe for Hitler, and Italy for Musselini.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 14, 2012 17:24:11 GMT -8
Empire? Stop being foolish. Look up "Golden Dawn". They are a far right Greek political party that is increasing in popularity due to the economic conditions there. For the history challenged, similiar economic conditions is what made Germany ripe for Hitler, and Italy for Musselini. I don't think there will be a Greek anschluss in Turkey or the former Yugoslavia anytime in our lifetimes, my kids, grandkids and theirs. I am not concerned about that whatsoever. Mussolini wasn't going to be an issue either but was fortunate to have Hitler make him look stronger than he was. The last thing we need to worry about is a political party in Greece committing mayhem in the Mediterranean. We need to worry that they don't get their economic house in order and create a very disastrous economic chain reaction in Europe and then the world. |
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Post by aztec70 on Oct 14, 2012 17:57:17 GMT -8
Empire? Stop being foolish. Look up "Golden Dawn". They are a far right Greek political party that is increasing in popularity due to the economic conditions there. For the history challenged, similiar economic conditions is what made Germany ripe for Hitler, and Italy for Musselini. I don't think there will be a Greek anschluss in Turkey or the former Yugoslavia anytime in our lifetimes, my kids, grandkids and theirs. I am not concerned about that whatsoever. Mussolini wasn't going to be an issue either but was fortunate to have Hitler make him look stronger than he was. The last thing we need to worry about is a political party in Greece committing mayhem in the Mediterranean. We need to worry that they don't get their economic house in order and create a very disastrous economic chain reaction in Europe and then the world. There you go again. Making things up to suit your politics. Why do you do that? |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 15, 2012 0:22:32 GMT -8
I don't think there will be a Greek anschluss in Turkey or the former Yugoslavia anytime in our lifetimes, my kids, grandkids and theirs. I am not concerned about that whatsoever. Mussolini wasn't going to be an issue either but was fortunate to have Hitler make him look stronger than he was. The last thing we need to worry about is a political party in Greece committing mayhem in the Mediterranean. We need to worry that they don't get their economic house in order and create a very disastrous economic chain reaction in Europe and then the world. There you go again. Making things up to suit your politics. Why do you do that? ?? Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Oct 15, 2012 6:42:39 GMT -8
There you go again. Making things up to suit your politics. Why do you do that? ?? Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Greek reich, territorial aspirations, taking over former empire from thousands of years ago, Greek anschluss into Turkey and or former Yugoslavia. That is what you made up. I never said any of that. You, evidently, do not want discuss the rise of the far right in Greece due to the conditions there. You prefer making up a straw man to debate instead. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 15, 2012 9:30:18 GMT -8
I don't think there will be a Greek anschluss in Turkey or the former Yugoslavia anytime in our lifetimes, my kids, grandkids and theirs. I am not concerned about that whatsoever. Mussolini wasn't going to be an issue either but was fortunate to have Hitler make him look stronger than he was. The last thing we need to worry about is a political party in Greece committing mayhem in the Mediterranean. We need to worry that they don't get their economic house in order and create a very disastrous economic chain reaction in Europe and then the world. There you go again. Making things up to suit your politics. Why do you do that? You warned of a possible rise in conditions that led to Hitler and Mussolini. I said that it was not possible to result in what they did and gave examples of things they couldn't do. So if you warn of a Greek Hitler, what outcome are you warning about? I was responding to your undefined warnings. If you are going to throw that out there, you should explain what outcome worries you, relative to the Greek temperament, recent history, and potential. I certainly don't worry about them creating problems outside of their borders. Well, check that, I worry if they can't fix their economy. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Oct 15, 2012 9:45:22 GMT -8
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Post by aztec70 on Oct 15, 2012 9:46:31 GMT -8
There you go again. Making things up to suit your politics. Why do you do that? You warned of a possible rise in conditions that led to Hitler and Mussolini. I said that it was not possible to result in what they did and gave examples of things they couldn't do. So if you warn of a Greek Hitler, what outcome are you warning about? I was responding to your undefined warnings. If you are going to throw that out there, you should explain what outcome worries you, relative to the Greek temperament, recent history, and potential. I certainly don't worry about them creating problems outside of their borders. Well, check that, I worry if they can't fix their economy. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards You simply prove my point. |
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Post by aztecwin on Oct 15, 2012 10:50:14 GMT -8
I don't think there will be a Greek anschluss in Turkey or the former Yugoslavia anytime in our lifetimes, my kids, grandkids and theirs. I am not concerned about that whatsoever. Mussolini wasn't going to be an issue either but was fortunate to have Hitler make him look stronger than he was. The last thing we need to worry about is a political party in Greece committing mayhem in the Mediterranean. We need to worry that they don't get their economic house in order and create a very disastrous economic chain reaction in Europe and then the world. There you go again. Making things up to suit your politics. Why do you do that? Just what do you think is made up? You lost any credibility that you ever had on this issue and this thread. The only threat from Greece is external to members of the EU and the threat of not even trying to get their own internal affairs in order. Again, you have to wonder what the stronger members of the EU were thinking when they agreed to this common currency and the alliance in the first place. Do we have a similar situation here with California in the United States? Are there any real parallels? |
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Post by aztec70 on Oct 15, 2012 11:55:11 GMT -8
There you go again. Making things up to suit your politics. Why do you do that? Just what do you think is made up? You lost any credibility that you ever had on this issue and this thread. The only threat from Greece is external to members of the EU and the threat of not even trying to get their own internal affairs in order. Again, you have to wonder what the stronger members of the EU were thinking when they agreed to this common currency and the alliance in the first place. Do we have a similar situation here with California in the United States? Are there any real parallels? It is not from the Greeks. It is to the Greeks. Unless you think fascism is a good thing.  |
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Post by aztecwin on Oct 15, 2012 12:05:35 GMT -8
Just what do you think is made up? You lost any credibility that you ever had on this issue and this thread. The only threat from Greece is external to members of the EU and the threat of not even trying to get their own internal affairs in order. Again, you have to wonder what the stronger members of the EU were thinking when they agreed to this common currency and the alliance in the first place. Do we have a similar situation here with California in the United States? Are there any real parallels? It is not from the Greeks. It is to the Greeks. Unless you think fascism is a good thing. Your fascism thing is so far down in the weeds it is not part of the issue. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 15, 2012 12:52:41 GMT -8
Just what do you think is made up? You lost any credibility that you ever had on this issue and this thread. The only threat from Greece is external to members of the EU and the threat of not even trying to get their own internal affairs in order. Again, you have to wonder what the stronger members of the EU were thinking when they agreed to this common currency and the alliance in the first place. Do we have a similar situation here with California in the United States? Are there any real parallels? It is not from the Greeks. It is to the Greeks. Unless you think fascism is a good thing. Still waiting. What outcomes worry you about it that you invoke Hitler? Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Oct 15, 2012 16:16:00 GMT -8
It is not from the Greeks. It is to the Greeks. Unless you think fascism is a good thing. Still waiting. What outcomes worry you about it that you invoke Hitler? Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Here you go. Took about thirty seconds. www.cjnews.com/node/95592Search "Golden Dawn". |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 15, 2012 19:10:31 GMT -8
Still waiting. What outcomes worry you about it that you invoke Hitler? Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Here you go. Took about thirty seconds. www.cjnews.com/node/95592Search "Golden Dawn". Actually hoping to hear what you see the outcomes and probabilities are since you invoked the Hitler alarmism, not a website. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Oct 15, 2012 19:29:37 GMT -8
Actually hoping to hear what you see the outcomes and probabilities are since you invoked the Hitler alarmism, not a website. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards I am not writing a dissertation, Stu. I posted a question for discussion, and you, however, seem obliged to argue about anything I post on the political forums. It please me to know how deep I am into your head. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Oct 16, 2012 0:31:29 GMT -8
Actually hoping to hear what you see the outcomes and probabilities are since you invoked the Hitler alarmism, not a website. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards I am not writing a dissertation, Stu. I posted a question for discussion, and you, however, seem obliged to argue about anything I post on the political forums. It please me to know how deep I am into your head. Nope. I'm curious why you thought it was an issue, invoking Hitler is pretty alarmist. Mussolini, not so much. Isn't the idea of a political forum to discuss/ argue? It's sport, right? At least better than talking the merits of Norv Turner. Right? We all agree, other than NTU, that he should be fired..... Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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