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Post by aztecgold on Oct 7, 2012 8:20:45 GMT -8
With The San Diego region approachng 3 million and over 100k alumni we should get that kind of crowd every week no matter how good the team is. I have had season tickets 22 years and rarely miss a game. I have never been able to understand the apathy. I agree with you, but San Diego is not a sports town, and it most definitely is not a college sports town. SDSU is changing that, though, one season at a time. NOT TRUE. Look at almost every area that has great weather and lots of other entertainment, like So. Cal., So. Florida, etc. Those fans will not come to games UNLESS the teams can win on consistent basis because there are too many other things to do. Look at the Chargers when they were going to the playoffs or the year they went to the Super Bowl, look at the Aztecs in basketball, the Padres had over $3M when Petco parked opened and then they started losing. The reality is that you have win to get fans in these type of areas. And it takes more than one year to bring in skeptical fans if the team has not been a winner in the past like the Aztecs in football.
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Post by monty on Oct 7, 2012 8:23:18 GMT -8
Tickets are so damn cheap that I don't think that really entices anyone.
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Post by trellzmybro on Oct 7, 2012 14:55:44 GMT -8
I would go to football games more often if the football games were more fun. They just simply aren't fun for me. I am perfectly fine watching them on TV or listening to them on the radio. Basketball games, on the other hand, are super fun. I've been going to games for the past 6 years, and I never want to miss one. The crowd is always amazing (Especially The Show), the team is great and fun to watch, and there is no stupid "FEAR THE SPEAR" over the PA.
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Post by Ozomahtli on Oct 7, 2012 14:58:43 GMT -8
Tickets are so damn cheap that I don't think that really entices anyone. Ticket price is irrelevent. You don't entice anyone with ticket price, you entice people with quality product, fan experience,wins or of course a skyshow in this fine city.
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Post by AztecSports95 on Oct 7, 2012 15:05:09 GMT -8
I would go to football games more often if the football games were more fun. They just simply aren't fun for me. I am perfectly fine watching them on TV or listening to them on the radio. Basketball games, on the other hand, are super fun. I've been going to games for the past 6 years, and I never want to miss one. The crowd is always amazing (Especially The Show), the team is great and fun to watch, and there is no stupid "FEAR THE SPEAR" over the PA. "Fear the Spear" wouldn't really work at a basketball game. ; ) But seriously, you are making the point most here are saying. Why didn't yyou go to basketball games before six years ago? Because the product wasn't as good as it is now. Everything comes back to winning. If our football team was 6-0 right now my guess is you and every one else in this town would be lining up for tickets. The atmosphere at Viejas Arena came after the team became very good.
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Post by aztecbob on Oct 7, 2012 15:24:32 GMT -8
Instead of buying media advertisements for the games, SDSU should just invest on fireworks after every game.
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Post by k5james on Oct 7, 2012 18:11:26 GMT -8
I would go to football games more often if the football games were more fun. They just simply aren't fun for me. I am perfectly fine watching them on TV or listening to them on the radio. Basketball games, on the other hand, are super fun. I've been going to games for the past 6 years, and I never want to miss one. The crowd is always amazing (Especially The Show), the team is great and fun to watch, and there is no stupid "FEAR THE SPEAR" over the PA. "Fear the Spear" wouldn't really work at a basketball game. ; ) But seriously, you are making the point most here are saying. Why didn't yyou go to basketball games before six years ago? Because the product wasn't as good as it is now. Everything comes back to winning. If our football team was 6-0 right now my guess is you and every one else in this town would be lining up for tickets. The atmosphere at Viejas Arena came after the team became very good. Funny how people forget that. What was it, two years ago, we averaged 7k in basketball. Basketball is a finished product. Football is still a work in progress.
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Post by trellzmybro on Oct 7, 2012 20:12:45 GMT -8
I would go to football games more often if the football games were more fun. They just simply aren't fun for me. I am perfectly fine watching them on TV or listening to them on the radio. Basketball games, on the other hand, are super fun. I've been going to games for the past 6 years, and I never want to miss one. The crowd is always amazing (Especially The Show), the team is great and fun to watch, and there is no stupid "FEAR THE SPEAR" over the PA. "Fear the Spear" wouldn't really work at a basketball game. ; ) But seriously, you are making the point most here are saying. Why didn't yyou go to basketball games before six years ago? Because the product wasn't as good as it is now. Everything comes back to winning. If our football team was 6-0 right now my guess is you and every one else in this town would be lining up for tickets. The atmosphere at Viejas Arena came after the team became very good. If we were 6-0 I totally would be at every game. If we had beaten Washington I probably would have been at every game as well. But even if the team was winning more, the games still aren't as fun. I went to the New Mexico game last year where the Aztecs played a great game, but I was still bored. I think part of it is that the stadium is too big. If SDSU gets a 40,000 seat stadium with Red seats and Aztec decorations everywhere, it will be different. The sound will travel better, the stadium will be more full, and there will be a better atmosphere.
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Post by k5james on Oct 7, 2012 20:28:13 GMT -8
"Fear the Spear" wouldn't really work at a basketball game. ; ) But seriously, you are making the point most here are saying. Why didn't yyou go to basketball games before six years ago? Because the product wasn't as good as it is now. Everything comes back to winning. If our football team was 6-0 right now my guess is you and every one else in this town would be lining up for tickets. The atmosphere at Viejas Arena came after the team became very good. If we were 6-0 I totally would be at every game. If we had beaten Washington I probably would have been at every game as well. But even if the team was winning more, the games still aren't as fun. I went to the New Mexico game last year where the Aztecs played a great game, but I was still bored. I think part of it is that the stadium is too big. If SDSU gets a 40,000 seat stadium with Red seats and Aztec decorations everywhere, it will be different. The sound will travel better, the stadium will be more full, and there will be a better atmosphere. You just aren't a very good fan. If you don't have plans, there's no excuse for being absent. A funeral is the only thing that kept me away yesterday.
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Post by Village Aztec on Oct 7, 2012 21:04:23 GMT -8
Scientists have found a cure for apathy but no one cares.
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Post by therealeman on Oct 7, 2012 21:25:01 GMT -8
I agree with you, but San Diego is not a sports town, and it most definitely is not a college sports town. SDSU is changing that, though, one season at a time. NOT TRUE. Look at almost every area that has great weather and lots of other entertainment, like So. Cal., So. Florida, etc. Those fans will not come to games UNLESS the teams can win on consistent basis because there are too many other things to do. Look at the Chargers when they were going to the playoffs or the year they went to the Super Bowl, look at the Aztecs in basketball, the Padres had over $3M when Petco parked opened and then they started losing. The reality is that you have win to get fans in these type of areas. And it takes more than one year to bring in skeptical fans if the team has not been a winner in the past like the Aztecs in football. I agree that major cities have different obstacles to overcome when it comes to attending a game, but if the only ingredient in your recipe is "winning" for fans to show up on game day, then the city has no dedication or tradition towards the team and is not a "sports town." That's kind of my logic here. And if you look at San Diego teams pros and college, there really isn't much of a tradition there. But hey, like you said, we need to win more football games going forward, so let's get to it.
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Post by LJ_Aztec on Oct 7, 2012 22:02:56 GMT -8
If we were 6-0 I totally would be at every game. If we had beaten Washington I probably would have been at every game as well. But even if the team was winning more, the games still aren't as fun. I went to the New Mexico game last year where the Aztecs played a great game, but I was still bored. I think part of it is that the stadium is too big. If SDSU gets a 40,000 seat stadium with Red seats and Aztec decorations everywhere, it will be different. The sound will travel better, the stadium will be more full, and there will be a better atmosphere. You just aren't a very good fan. If you don't have plans, there's no excuse for being absent. A funeral is the only thing that kept me away yesterday. +1. Unfortunately he is representative of the majority of the SDSU alum base. No emotional investment or real dedicated care. The casual/San Diego fan syndrome. If you can't get up for the fact that it's Aztec football that we only get 12-13 times a year, then, well...I guess it's too "boring" for you.
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Post by Simsonic on Oct 7, 2012 23:02:37 GMT -8
With The San Diego region approachng 3 million and over 100k alumni we should get that kind of crowd every week no matter how good the team is. I have had season tickets 22 years and rarely miss a game. I have never been able to understand the apathy. Bull$hit. Win and we will come. And no, 7-5 is not good, it's barely above average. 10-3 or better is good. I go to basketball games because we are good and we win. We win 80% of the time. That is good. I will go to football games when we are good and win. I flew out to New Orleans because I thought we were headed in the right direction, but now I know we aren't.
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Post by mattpohl on Oct 8, 2012 0:23:21 GMT -8
I can't find any reliable information on costs, but I imagine it costs about $500K to put on a show like the one Saturday. You need to put a tremendous number of butts in the seats to cover that. Hang in there, Matt
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Post by AztecSports95 on Oct 8, 2012 5:49:49 GMT -8
With The San Diego region approachng 3 million and over 100k alumni we should get that kind of crowd every week no matter how good the team is. I have had season tickets 22 years and rarely miss a game. I have never been able to understand the apathy. Bull$hit. Win and we will come. And no, 7-5 is not good, it's barely above average. 10-3 or better is good. I go to basketball games because we are good and we win. We win 80% of the time. That is good. I will go to football games when we are good and win. I flew out to New Orleans because I thought we were headed in the right direction, but now I know we aren't. Pretty sad statement. Particularly from someone who posts on this board. People on here are (would appear to be) a bit beyond the casual fan. So for someone who is more than a casual fan to say "i'm not going to watch my team if they don't go 10-3" is pretty pathetic. Might as well pack it up and shut down the program if we're going to rely on fans like this. it's a vicious cycle. Win and they come. But we have to have a core group that shows up no matter what to get it started. The Show started with 8-10 crazy fans that came out no matter what, not matter who was on the floor and no matter what the final score was. Really really sad that we have fans like this. Just depressing. And to the guy above who said painting the seats red and adding decorations would make the games more fun .... I'm speechless. I don't go to football games to look at the seats. I go to watch my Aztecs play.
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 8, 2012 16:52:22 GMT -8
Bull$hit. Win and we will come. And no, 7-5 is not good, it's barely above average. 10-3 or better is good. I go to basketball games because we are good and we win. We win 80% of the time. That is good. I will go to football games when we are good and win. I flew out to New Orleans because I thought we were headed in the right direction, but now I know we aren't. Pretty sad statement. Particularly from someone who posts on this board. People on here are (would appear to be) a bit beyond the casual fan. So for someone who is more than a casual fan to say "i'm not going to watch my team if they don't go 10-3" is pretty pathetic. Might as well pack it up and shut down the program if we're going to rely on fans like this. it's a vicious cycle. Win and they come. But we have to have a core group that shows up no matter what to get it started. The Show started with 8-10 crazy fans that came out no matter what, not matter who was on the floor and no matter what the final score was. Really really sad that we have fans like this. Just depressing. And to the guy above who said painting the seats red and adding decorations would make the games more fun .... I'm speechless. I don't go to football games to look at the seats. I go to watch my Aztecs play. A new stadium would be a big draw. He is right that the "Q" is spew.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 17:01:28 GMT -8
Anybody can do whatever they want with their time. Nobody has an obligation to give 2 shits about SDSU football. Calling out people for not coming is ridiculously stupid. They will come if they want to come. Historically SDSU football hasn't given people a reason to come for YEARS. We haven't had a major upset of a good football team since before I was born, and I'm 25.
Go ahead and say that people aren't "good fans". Who gives a $#!+ what kind of fans they are? If we start winning meaningful games people will come. Until then you'll get stuck with about 15k diehards and 5k more randoms.
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Post by AztecSports95 on Oct 8, 2012 17:11:37 GMT -8
Anybody can do whatever they want with their time. Nobody has an obligation to give 2 shits about SDSU football. Calling out people for not coming is ridiculously stupid. They will come if they want to come. Historically SDSU football hasn't given people a reason to come for YEARS. We haven't had a major upset of a good football team since before I was born, and I'm 25. Go ahead and say that people aren't "good fans". Who gives a $#!+ what kind of fans they are? If we start winning meaningful games people will come. Until then you'll get stuck with about 15k diehards and 5k more randoms. You are right, you can do whatever you want. But people who don't go to games and don't support the program financially have no right to come on here and bitch. This program will only be as good as its fan support takes it. You cant upgrade facilities, pay great coaches, have amazing marketing and promotions .. as a state funded university .. without the support of fans. Financial support. So go ahead do whatever you want. But quit your whining and bitching and complaining and criticizing. Unless you are willing to step up to the plate and actually support your team you might as well be a BYU fan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 17:43:41 GMT -8
Anybody can do whatever they want with their time. Nobody has an obligation to give 2 shits about SDSU football. Calling out people for not coming is ridiculously stupid. They will come if they want to come. Historically SDSU football hasn't given people a reason to come for YEARS. We haven't had a major upset of a good football team since before I was born, and I'm 25. Go ahead and say that people aren't "good fans". Who gives a $#!+ what kind of fans they are? If we start winning meaningful games people will come. Until then you'll get stuck with about 15k diehards and 5k more randoms. You are right, you can do whatever you want. But people who don't go to games and don't support the program financially have no right to come on here and bitch. This program will only be as good as its fan support takes it. You cant upgrade facilities, pay great coaches, have amazing marketing and promotions .. as a state funded university .. without the support of fans. Financial support. So go ahead do whatever you want. But quit your whining and bitching and complaining and criticizing. Unless you are willing to step up to the plate and actually support your team you might as well be a BYU fan. Well you are wrong again. Technically anybody can do whatever the hell they want in terms of coming on here and posting. Nobody needs any kind of "right" to do anything, and you certainly don't have any privileged to determine who has a right to bitch and who doesn't. I can bitch all I want and not pay a penny. That being said, I don't bitch much, and I do support the program financially to the extent that my modest salary allows me to. Also I take a great deal of offense to your last comment about people who can't support are likened to BYU fans. I know several people that would love to attend more games and donate more money but do to financial hardships are unable to do so. Your arrogance is appalling. Show some class.
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Post by k5james on Oct 8, 2012 18:12:03 GMT -8
Tec, anyone who says they went to a game and the team played well but they were still bored is a bad fan. Either that or they don't really like football, and in that case what the hell are they doing commenting on the sport?
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