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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Sept 1, 2010 20:23:24 GMT -8
You know, I did not know he was Bi until the announcement came out that he had AIDS. Then it seemed like the next day they announced that he had died.
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 2, 2010 4:39:35 GMT -8
You know, I did not know he was Bi until the announcement came out that he had AIDS. Then it seemed like the next day they announced that he had died. That is what it was. I did not know that he was a Persian born in Zanzibar either until after he was gone. Palin is going to Iowa. I hope she is just fund raising. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Sept 2, 2010 6:10:49 GMT -8
Palin is going to Iowa. I hope she is just fund raising. Good Lord, I hope she can find it on a map. There are a different breed of Americans in Iowa. They still believe what government tells them. Their farm boys still volunteer to fight in foreign wars and think that it is the American thing to do. When I was traveling around the country selling land to people who were afraid of violence brewing in the Big Cities of the US, I was in and out of Iowa many times in the past few years. Every time when I got off of the plane, I was reassured that I was in Iowa as soon as I walked across the airport lobby. BIG WOMEN! I mean BIG WOMEN!!! all over the place. German Farm Girls picked up in some conveyance and transported to the cornfields of Iowa who had each put on an additional hundred pounds. Hell, the Vikings would have grabbed these women for breeding purposes 1100 years ago if they saw them. You always want to have healthy sons. Shoot, there are women in Iowa who could play in our offensive line and solve all of our blocking problems that we will see this year. Moooooo! Moooooo! Mooooo!
Head 'em up! Move 'em out. Rolling! Rollin'! Rollin'! Keep those women rollin! Keep them women rollin! RAWHIDE! Through Rain and Wind and Weather. Hell bent for leather, Wishin' my gal was by my side. Yep, BIG WOMEN! Palin will be out of place there. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Sept 2, 2010 6:20:20 GMT -8
You know, I did not know he was Bi until the announcement came out that he had AIDS. Then it seemed like the next day they announced that he had died. That is what it was. I did not know that he was a Persian born in Zanzibar either until after he was gone. Actually, Win, he was an Indian of Persian Extraction whose family lived in Zanzibar as minor officials in the British Government. When British ruled government went to hell in most of Africa his family was granted refugee status and allowed to move along with half a million others to Mother England. The English who had a lot of inbred DNA needed this fresh gene pool of handsome people to help them out of their genetic problems. There are a lot of really dumb people of Celtic extraction who form the nucleus of the "rowdie soccer fans" in England. It isn't just an act. They really are that stupid. By the way, his family faith was Zoroastrian. The Iranians have killed off most of them over the centuries. The smart ones fled to India and other countries. |
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Post by waztec on Sept 4, 2010 7:15:06 GMT -8
Yes, the Tea Party movement has a lot of influence today in the Republican Party. I would not go so far as to equate them with the GOP, however. We should keep in mind that there would be no Tea Party movement were it not for the thoughtless, "take no prisoners" style of government practiced by Barack Obama and the Dems in Congress. By their actions, Obama and his party have allowed a dispirited and badly beaten opposition party the chance to get off the mat and fight again. Obama has broken numerous promises, but the worst such case is that he has proven himself to be a bare-knuckle Chicago style political operative instead of a "post-partisan healer." There is a price to be paid when you run under one banner and almost immediately take up another when in office. Perhaps Barack Obama thought that no one would notice. Were he less narcissistic, he might have been less reckless in disregarding the opinion of the majority. How else can one explain numerous actions taken despite the the profound opposition of the majority of Americans? There is no doubt in my mind that the Dems badly overestimated their mandate. Obama has virtually destroyed all the good feeling that accompanied him into the White House. The health care fiasco, in which nameless persons were able to insert thousands of mandates and regulations, most of them designed to put private insurers out of business, was just one of the mistakes made by Obama. He could have seriously brought at least a fair number of Republicans on board had he wanted to. Instead, it was his (or Nancy's and Harry's) way or the highway. The Democrats apparently assumed that the American people had suddenly moved way to the left of center. That was a mistake. This country remains one in which probably two/thirds of its citizens are dead center or just a bit to the right of center. So here we are with the economy in shambles and the Dems in serious danger of losing the House and looking at a Senate with probably at least 46 or 47 Republicans. Had Barack Obama been a cagier pol he would have moved much more cautiously, bringing along the bulk of the population with him. His party would be in line to lose perhaps two dozen House seats instead of 35, 40, or even 50. They would lose maybe 3 or 4 Senate seats. In short, the kind of losses that all parties in power suffer in the mid-term election. (It is a stretch, but the GOP has an outside shot at taking both houses.) In short, despite the difficulty any party would have to move the economy in the right direction (in truth, government can more easily hurt the economy than to help it), the Democratic Party could be in much better shape for the Fall election. Instead, like Icarus flying too close to the sun, they risk getting burned and burned badly. And deservedly so. They will have only themselves to blame, not the Tea Partiers. In fact Barack Obama himself created the Tea Party. AzWm Win, there is an intriguing web site that has a 40 question inventory to assess where you are ideologically. Be warned It is an admittedly liberal organization and website. The results of their survey indicate that Americans score 209.5 on the scale of conservative versus liberal beliefs. The scaling assigns a 400 hundred score to completely liberal person and zero to one who is completely conservative. Two hundred is dead center. The test seems to be a fairly representative set of questions. You should visit the website and take the test. I took it and as you might expect I scored a 330. I would be interested to know what your score is and what you think of the questions and methodology. www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/03/political_ideology.htmlAccording to this survey, Americans are very slightly liberal, even though they accurately note that 35% of us identify as conservative and 15% identify as liberal, which is consistent with other surveys that I have read. |
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Post by uwaztec on Sept 4, 2010 7:30:34 GMT -8
I scored 246
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Post by waztec on Sept 4, 2010 7:50:16 GMT -8
I scored like a 146. Weird though with regard to the questions... ---I'm pretty much totally against "negotiating" with terrorists (gave that one an 8 I think) ---Gave a 7 to the one about most gov't spending being wasteful. yet... ---I'm also totally against regulating morality (gave it a 10). ---Gave a zero to the one about gays being abnormal. ---Gave a ten to the one about churches leaving others alone. ---Gave an 8 to the notion that the rich didn't get that way by hard work. ---Gave a 3 to the one about letting people invest their social security. I guess I'd say when it comes to social issues I'm a moderate to liberal (why the stigma to that word anyway? "progressive"?). For example I can't imagine anyone else scoring a 146 like I did and hating the Tea Party and what it represents more than I do. But when it comes to taxes and wars I'm pretty far right of center. You are unique, John. Tests designed for the masses would not apply to you. ;D |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Sept 7, 2010 10:36:26 GMT -8
I scored a 258. I think that the 0 - 10 rating system might skew it a bit though.
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 7, 2010 13:30:35 GMT -8
Yes, the Tea Party movement has a lot of influence today in the Republican Party. I would not go so far as to equate them with the GOP, however. We should keep in mind that there would be no Tea Party movement were it not for the thoughtless, "take no prisoners" style of government practiced by Barack Obama and the Dems in Congress. By their actions, Obama and his party have allowed a dispirited and badly beaten opposition party the chance to get off the mat and fight again. Obama has broken numerous promises, but the worst such case is that he has proven himself to be a bare-knuckle Chicago style political operative instead of a "post-partisan healer." There is a price to be paid when you run under one banner and almost immediately take up another when in office. Perhaps Barack Obama thought that no one would notice. Were he less narcissistic, he might have been less reckless in disregarding the opinion of the majority. How else can one explain numerous actions taken despite the the profound opposition of the majority of Americans? There is no doubt in my mind that the Dems badly overestimated their mandate. Obama has virtually destroyed all the good feeling that accompanied him into the White House. The health care fiasco, in which nameless persons were able to insert thousands of mandates and regulations, most of them designed to put private insurers out of business, was just one of the mistakes made by Obama. He could have seriously brought at least a fair number of Republicans on board had he wanted to. Instead, it was his (or Nancy's and Harry's) way or the highway. The Democrats apparently assumed that the American people had suddenly moved way to the left of center. That was a mistake. This country remains one in which probably two/thirds of its citizens are dead center or just a bit to the right of center. So here we are with the economy in shambles and the Dems in serious danger of losing the House and looking at a Senate with probably at least 46 or 47 Republicans. Had Barack Obama been a cagier pol he would have moved much more cautiously, bringing along the bulk of the population with him. His party would be in line to lose perhaps two dozen House seats instead of 35, 40, or even 50. They would lose maybe 3 or 4 Senate seats. In short, the kind of losses that all parties in power suffer in the mid-term election. (It is a stretch, but the GOP has an outside shot at taking both houses.) In short, despite the difficulty any party would have to move the economy in the right direction (in truth, government can more easily hurt the economy than to help it), the Democratic Party could be in much better shape for the Fall election. Instead, like Icarus flying too close to the sun, they risk getting burned and burned badly. And deservedly so. They will have only themselves to blame, not the Tea Partiers. In fact Barack Obama himself created the Tea Party. AzWm Win, there is an intriguing web site that has a 40 question inventory to assess where you are ideologically. Be warned It is an admittedly liberal organization and website. The results of their survey indicate that Americans score 209.5 on the scale of conservative versus liberal beliefs. The scaling assigns a 400 hundred score to completely liberal person and zero to one who is completely conservative. Two hundred is dead center. The test seems to be a fairly representative set of questions. You should visit the website and take the test. I took it and as you might expect I scored a 330. I would be interested to know what your score is and what you think of the questions and methodology. www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/03/political_ideology.htmlAccording to this survey, Americans are very slightly liberal, even though they accurately note that 35% of us identify as conservative and 15% identify as liberal, which is consistent with other surveys that I have read. I scored 80 which said that I am extremely Conservative. I thought the little survey was rather poorly constructed and in some cases prompted you to answer a certain way. You said that in a way in your suggesting that I see where it said I stand by pointing out the bias of the source. |
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