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Post by aztecwin on Apr 11, 2012 9:03:24 GMT -8
Hon. Barry Obama: The FIRST ‘Copy and Paste’ President of the United States of America! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This idiot can't talk without a teleprompter.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: our strongest ally! Obama is an absolute joke who has been punched to much above the shoulders! Is Obama stuck on Stupid? listen to the you tube www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=erYpXzE9Pxs |
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Post by markyc on Apr 11, 2012 10:31:15 GMT -8
Idiot? What an eloquent argument against Obama. Too bad you're going to have to live with him for another 4 years!
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 15, 2012 17:45:28 GMT -8
In the case of President Barack Obama, there is less there than originally met the eye. I'm not saying that he is stupid, but I am saying that (A) he is very poorly informed on a number of issues, and (B) has really blundered on a number of occasions, mistakes that qualify as unforced errors. In the case of point (B) I will remind you of how he insulted the Brits by sending back a bust of Churchill that the UK government had given to a previous Chief Executive. What in the world was he thinking when he did that?  There are plenty of examples I could add (e.g., "corpse men.") but if you have been paying attention for the last three years you should already know about many of them. Bottom line: Barack Obama does not walk on water! AzWm |
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Post by iambballanalyst on Apr 15, 2012 18:04:54 GMT -8
Being President sucks. No matter what, at least half the Country hates the President at all times...no matter who he is.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 15, 2012 22:39:38 GMT -8
Being President sucks. No matter what, at least half the Country hates the President at all times...no matter who he is. Not always true. FDR was hated by many, but the majority of Americans liked him, perhaps even revered him. Eisenhower was well liked, and so was Reagan. Surely even those who disagreed with Ike and Dutch on policy liked them well enough in most cases. Bil Clinton, likewise, was pretty popular. At least his opponents did not loathe him. On the other hand, G.W. Bush seemed to have driven the Left absolutely nuts. "Bush Derangement Syndrome" was not just a joke. George W. Bush, personally, is pretty unassuming, yet the Left seemed pathological in its hatred of the man. That's something that was not true in the case of George H.W. Bush. AzWm |
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Post by uwaztec on Apr 16, 2012 8:08:14 GMT -8
Being President sucks. No matter what, at least half the Country hates the President at all times...no matter who he is. Not always true. FDR was hated by many, but the majority of Americans liked him, perhaps even revered him. Eisenhower was well liked, and so was Reagan. Surely even those who disagreed with Ike and Dutch on policy liked them well enough in most cases. Bil Clinton, likewise, was pretty popular. At least his opponents did not loathe him. On the other hand, G.W. Bush seemed to have driven the Left absolutely nuts. "Bush Derangement Syndrome" was not just a joke. George W. Bush, personally, is pretty unassuming, yet the Left seemed pathological in its hatred of the man. That's something that was not true in the case of George H.W. Bush. AzWm William, this is a joke right? Although I agree with some of your examples... Clinton was pathologically despised by the Right. I could give you 100's of examples, including being accused of murdering Foster. When G. Gordon Liddy bragged on his radio show about using a poster of Clinton for target practice with his semi-automatic assault weapon on weekends....the Right loved it. I agree that G.W was despised by the Left... but no president has been loathed as much as Obama is now. He could find the cure for cancer and the hatred would not subside at all. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 16, 2012 9:49:13 GMT -8
Not always true. FDR was hated by many, but the majority of Americans liked him, perhaps even revered him. Eisenhower was well liked, and so was Reagan. Surely even those who disagreed with Ike and Dutch on policy liked them well enough in most cases. Bil Clinton, likewise, was pretty popular. At least his opponents did not loathe him. On the other hand, G.W. Bush seemed to have driven the Left absolutely nuts. "Bush Derangement Syndrome" was not just a joke. George W. Bush, personally, is pretty unassuming, yet the Left seemed pathological in its hatred of the man. That's something that was not true in the case of George H.W. Bush. AzWm William, this is a joke right? Although I agree with some of your examples... Clinton was pathologically despised by the Right. I could give you 100's of examples, including being accused of murdering Foster. When G. Gordon Liddy bragged on his radio show about using a poster of Clinton for target practice with his semi-automatic assault weapon on weekends....the Right loved it. I agree that G.W was despised by the Left... but no president has been loathed as much as Obama is now. He could find the cure for cancer and the hatred would not subside at all. Yet polls show that Obama is pretty well liked personally. His policies? That's another matter, but as a person, people generally seem to like him. I am not in that category. I do not hate him (hating is too taxing on my personal resources), but I like him less and less as his cynical disregard for history and simple facts become more apparent. Still, I do not hate him. Of course, if one goes back to the 19th Century, one finds many examples of perfectly outrageous things being said and written about various Presidents. Better that these negative feelings are expressed in words rather than with guns. AzWm |
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Post by aztec70 on Apr 16, 2012 11:34:40 GMT -8
William, this is a joke right? Although I agree with some of your examples... Clinton was pathologically despised by the Right. I could give you 100's of examples, including being accused of murdering Foster. When G. Gordon Liddy bragged on his radio show about using a poster of Clinton for target practice with his semi-automatic assault weapon on weekends....the Right loved it. I agree that G.W was despised by the Left... but no president has been loathed as much as Obama is now. He could find the cure for cancer and the hatred would not subside at all. Yet polls show that Obama is pretty well liked personally. His policies? That's another matter, but as a person, people generally seem to like him. I am not in that category. I do not hate him (hating is too taxing on my personal resources), but I like him less and less as his cynical disregard for history and simple facts become more apparent. Still, I do not hate him. Of course, if one goes back to the 19th Century, one finds many examples of perfectly outrageous things being said and written about various Presidents. Better that these negative feelings are expressed in words rather than with guns. AzWm Obama's policys are an issue for many on the left. He is not nearly liberal enough. Does that surprise you, William? |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 17, 2012 7:49:42 GMT -8
Yet polls show that Obama is pretty well liked personally. His policies? That's another matter, but as a person, people generally seem to like him. I am not in that category. I do not hate him (hating is too taxing on my personal resources), but I like him less and less as his cynical disregard for history and simple facts become more apparent. Still, I do not hate him. Of course, if one goes back to the 19th Century, one finds many examples of perfectly outrageous things being said and written about various Presidents. Better that these negative feelings are expressed in words rather than with guns. AzWm Obama's policys are an issue for many on the left. He is not nearly liberal enough. Does that surprise you, William? Surprise me? Nope. One can never overestimate the lunacy of the Left!  But, seriously, just what does the Left want? Maybe a federal take over of all food markets based on the fact that without food people will die and therefore the sales and distribution of edibles should not be left to the ruthless, heartless depravities of the private sector. As I have written many times and will do so again now, one either believes that the federal government should be strictly limited to those powers delegated to it in the U.S. Constitution or one believes that, like Don Quijote, the Feds should stick its nose into almost every area of human endeavor in a foolish attempt to make things "fair" and "equal." AzWm |
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 17, 2012 12:39:23 GMT -8
Yet polls show that Obama is pretty well liked personally. His policies? That's another matter, but as a person, people generally seem to like him. I am not in that category. I do not hate him (hating is too taxing on my personal resources), but I like him less and less as his cynical disregard for history and simple facts become more apparent. Still, I do not hate him. Of course, if one goes back to the 19th Century, one finds many examples of perfectly outrageous things being said and written about various Presidents. Better that these negative feelings are expressed in words rather than with guns. AzWm Obama's policys are an issue for many on the left. He is not nearly liberal enough. Does that surprise you, William? Just what should Obama change to a more liberal slant and how would it help? |
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Post by aztec70 on Apr 17, 2012 21:07:08 GMT -8
Obama's policys are an issue for many on the left. He is not nearly liberal enough. Does that surprise you, William? Just what should Obama change to a more liberal slant and how would it help? Glad you asked. A single payer health plan, the public option. Get business out of the business of providing health care for their employees. That is a huge drag on the bottom line. Most of the developed world does not handicap their businesses with health costs. We do. I believe it puts our businesses at a competitive disadvantage vs. foreign companys. |
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 19, 2012 13:12:57 GMT -8
Just what should Obama change to a more liberal slant and how would it help? Glad you asked. A single payer health plan, the public option. Get business out of the business of providing health care for their employees. That is a huge drag on the bottom line. Most of the developed world does not handicap their businesses with health costs. We do. I believe it puts our businesses at a competitive disadvantage vs. foreign companys. Does that sound like a move toward Socialism? Why or why not? |
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Post by aztec70 on Apr 19, 2012 15:27:18 GMT -8
Glad you asked. A single payer health plan, the public option. Get business out of the business of providing health care for their employees. That is a huge drag on the bottom line. Most of the developed world does not handicap their businesses with health costs. We do. I believe it puts our businesses at a competitive disadvantage vs. foreign companys. Does that sound like a move toward Socialism? Why or why not? No, I don't think so. Why do you ask? |
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 19, 2012 15:41:44 GMT -8
Does that sound like a move toward Socialism? Why or why not? No, I don't think so. Why do you ask? Looks like just another Obama move toward bigger government with fewer options for private citizens. |
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Post by aztec70 on Apr 19, 2012 16:07:07 GMT -8
No, I don't think so. Why do you ask? Looks like just another Obama move toward bigger government with fewer options for private citizens. I am talking about saving businesses money so they can compete in the world economy better. Do you see a better way to relieve business the burden of employee health care costs? |
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 20, 2012 14:06:06 GMT -8
Looks like just another Obama move toward bigger government with fewer options for private citizens. I am talking about saving businesses money so they can compete in the world economy better. Do you see a better way to relieve business the burden of employee health care costs? You make a good case, but it has to be put together in a much different manner than ObamaKare. Many details to work out. |
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Apr 21, 2012 7:10:33 GMT -8
Glad you asked. A single payer health plan, the public option. Get business out of the business of providing health care for their employees. That is a huge drag on the bottom line. Most of the developed world does not handicap their businesses with health costs. We do. I believe it puts our businesses at a competitive disadvantage vs. foreign companys. "Get business out of...business". Wow. You must work for the State Board of Equalization or the Eternal Death and Dismemberment. The businesses here in Orange County are not "handicap" by health care costs. It isn't the burden businesses in Orange County are "handicap" at all. This is a naive statement. Why don't you talk about the eleven plus gross and flat tax burdens that actually really do "handicap" businesses? You libels just don't have a clue how an economy works. Quality goods and services can only be provided by a healthy, competitive business climate. Governments can never do this. Period. Go back to 1978 and undo those torts that made it so easy to sue your doctor and then you'll see the medical industry fix itself. If you understood business, you'd understand why a business woman or man would despise the Clintons for introducing a new gross, flat health care tax burden in 1994. If you understood, you already be so mad, that the libel hatred of President Bush would seem like laughter. "Handicap"? You want a run down? Okay, let's start with the flat, gross payroll tax on business which serves no purpose in today's modern world. Workers' Comp. It's what 20% on top of an employee's wage? Oh, and it also strangles non-private sector entities, like why don't you call the LA County Fire Dept and ask them what there Workers' Comp. rate is per gross wage? Next flat and gross tax a business faces? Pick one. Unemployment rate of 6.2 percent. There are small businesses here that have had no unemployment claims ever charged to their U.I. account, but have had the E.D.D. raise their U.I. rate to the maximum. This is cheating. I can go on. Pick another. Social security tax, flat on gross, the employee got the two percent smoker discount but the employer did not. Explain that one Mr. President. Medicare, flat and gross, oh, but with no limitation. Futa. ETF. Ten percent sales tax and 42 cents a gallon gas, flat tax. SECA tax at 15.3 on what money the owner might get to keep until it's spent on personal expenditures. Oh, oh, oh, and the general liability insurance tax on gross wages of the employees AND THE OWNERS!! Required. Like the owners are going to sue themselves wow. On a side note, do you libels ever consider the early distribution tax of 12..5% that "murders" the poor? Don't get me started on tax loopholes. So, it isn't that he needs a speechwriter, he just needs to shut up. With all the gross, flat taxes already in place and killing Americans, and businesses, and jobs, and attitudes, and fun, and pursuit of happiness, everytime he tries to speak to make himself, as a chain smoker of Marlboro reds, look charming, he's limited to about six words in the real English language. I saw a charge against an employee who makes $42,000 in wages per year. The charge was titled, "HCT" and the rate was 10.8%. This was two weeks ago. You now have 12 government taxes, each taking ten to fifteen percent of the workers' wages. HAM |
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 21, 2012 8:45:34 GMT -8
Glad you asked. A single payer health plan, the public option. Get business out of the business of providing health care for their employees. That is a huge drag on the bottom line. Most of the developed world does not handicap their businesses with health costs. We do. I believe it puts our businesses at a competitive disadvantage vs. foreign companys. "Get business out of...business". Wow. You must work for the State Board of Equalization or the Eternal Death and Dismemberment. The businesses here in Orange County are not "handicap" by health care costs. It isn't the burden businesses in Orange County are "handicap" at all. This is a naive statement. Why don't you talk about the eleven plus gross and flat tax burdens that actually really do "handicap" businesses? You libels just don't have a clue how an economy works. Quality goods and services can only be provided by a healthy, competitive business climate. Governments can never do this. Period. Go back to 1978 and undo those torts that made it so easy to sue your doctor and then you'll see the medical industry fix itself. If you understood business, you'd understand why a business woman or man would despise the Clintons for introducing a new gross, flat health care tax burden in 1994. If you understood, you already be so mad, that the libel hatred of President Bush would seem like laughter. "Handicap"? You want a run down? Okay, let's start with the flat, gross payroll tax on business which serves no purpose in today's modern world. Workers' Comp. It's what 20% on top of an employee's wage? Oh, and it also strangles non-private sector entities, like why don't you call the LA County Fire Dept and ask them what there Workers' Comp. rate is per gross wage? Next flat and gross tax a business faces? Pick one. Unemployment rate of 6.2 percent. There are small businesses here that have had no unemployment claims ever charged to their U.I. account, but have had the E.D.D. raise their U.I. rate to the maximum. This is cheating. I can go on. Pick another. Social security tax, flat on gross, the employee got the two percent smoker discount but the employer did not. Explain that one Mr. President. Medicare, flat and gross, oh, but with no limitation. Futa. ETF. Ten percent sales tax and 42 cents a gallon gas, flat tax. SECA tax at 15.3 on what money the owner might get to keep until it's spent on personal expenditures. Oh, oh, oh, and the general liability insurance tax on gross wages of the employees AND THE OWNERS!! Required. Like the owners are going to sue themselves wow. On a side note, do you libels ever consider the early distribution tax of 12..5% that "murders" the poor? Don't get me started on tax loopholes. So, it isn't that he needs a speechwriter, he just needs to shut up. With all the gross, flat taxes already in place and killing Americans, and businesses, and jobs, and attitudes, and fun, and pursuit of happiness, everytime he tries to speak to make himself, as a chain smoker of Marlboro reds, look charming, he's limited to about six words in the real English language. I saw a charge against an employee who makes $42,000 in wages per year. The charge was titled, "HCT" and the rate was 10.8%. This was two weeks ago. You now have 12 government taxes, each taking ten to fifteen percent of the workers' wages. HAM Dang! Sorry I said it sounded like he made a case. Here is what I mean. A single payer system that covered only eligible folks that had a rate drawn from a menu of items that a person thinks they need. Maybe a young person would want only catastrophic coverage while the older person might want a much more robust plan. The rates for the person with less coverage would have to be artificially high to partially subsidize the older person with more risk. Lots of small details to be looked at. Tort reform would be part of it as would a viable way to get other countries to pay for their citizens that show up at emergency rooms. Father Joe and The Salvation Army would have to be able to provide some level of care for those who choose to not be covered or could not afford it. Charity is more efficient anyway. Many more aspects to think about and that is why I think that some small start with incremental growth as we see the cost and effectiveness of what we implement. All your other issues are valid, but just to tough to address in a health care post. Got some new Meds? You sound near lucid.  |
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Post by aztec70 on Apr 21, 2012 8:51:45 GMT -8
"You now have 12 government taxes, each taking ten to fifteen percent of the workers' wages". Do the math, Buddy.
Your posts are always jokes.
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Post by aztec70 on Apr 21, 2012 9:03:04 GMT -8
My neighbor is an engineer. Worked for GD for years. Built rockets. They closed the plant and he did not want to move. He went back to doing what he did to put himself through State, construction. He recently went to work for GA. Builds drones. He told me one of the biggest reasons was with both he and his wife self-employed their health care costs were killing them. He told me his health care costs for the two of them, insurance and deductibles, was $22,000.00. It was one of the reasons he got a job and closed his business. He tells health insurance is one of the biggest hurdles in starting a business. I agree with him.
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