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Post by yeaztecman on Feb 21, 2012 20:25:53 GMT -8
As great as it would be to land 2 more players like January and Pelle, I don't know if it's the best thing for the team. No team in college or NCAA plays 12 guys. Ideally you want 9-10 guys in the rotation.
As it stands now, Fish is going to have a hard enough time getting minutes for all the quality guys already committed for next year. At some point, you have to go with the guys you have and give them the minutes you promised when you recruited them. I'd hate to get to the point where we have guys that are highly regarded out of high school leaving our program.
With that said, I trust Coach Fisher to do what's best for the team he's got and the future perception recruits will have of our program. I can't wait to see the 40 minutes of hell type defense we'll be able to run next year.
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Post by aztectruth on Feb 21, 2012 20:42:50 GMT -8
Funny you should mention minutes, because I got bored in class today so I made this. I would say these would be their average minutes, so thats why I didn't just go with the 200 minutes or whatever. Attachments:
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Post by ciabounce on Feb 21, 2012 21:57:16 GMT -8
It's not the worst thing in the world if you give Shrigley and Spencer another year to develop. Going 10-11 deep isn't unheard of.
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Post by myk13 on Feb 21, 2012 22:05:26 GMT -8
Is Shrigley going to be next years name no one can spell?
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Post by aztecinoz on Feb 21, 2012 22:05:28 GMT -8
I know someone mention that Stephens could RS next year.
That would definitely open up some minutes.
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Post by yeaztecman on Feb 21, 2012 22:10:57 GMT -8
Funny you should mention minutes, because I got bored in class today so I made this. I would say these would be their average minutes, so thats why I didn't just go with the 200 minutes or whatever. Well done. That's a point prover. |
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Post by sdtri007 on Feb 21, 2012 22:39:46 GMT -8
Funny you should mention minutes, because I got bored in class today so I made this. I would say these would be their average minutes, so thats why I didn't just go with the 200 minutes or whatever. As much as I have heard about JJ and how solid he's going to be, I still think I'd switch your B5 and C4. With the bigs we have, I'd be shocked if JJ isn't playing the 4 and Stephens having the starting 5 spot to start the year. Things could get interesting at the 5 when Spencer adjusts to D1 and Johnson becomes eligible though. If Pelle somehow makes it to us, he'd be our starting 5 man. JJ is solid in the post, but not big and long enough at the 5. Its definitely going to be interesting to say the least though. We could run many different rotations/looks. Our 2nd team could honestly give our first team a run for the money. Pretty amazing to say the least. We'll be an extremely dangerous team. Just my take |
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Post by aztectruth on Feb 22, 2012 0:00:20 GMT -8
Funny you should mention minutes, because I got bored in class today so I made this. I would say these would be their average minutes, so thats why I didn't just go with the 200 minutes or whatever. As much as I have heard about JJ and how solid he's going to be, I still think I'd switch your B5 and C4. With the bigs we have, I'd be shocked if JJ isn't playing the 4 and Stephens having the starting 5 spot to start the year. Things could get interesting at the 5 when Spencer adjusts to D1 and Johnson becomes eligible though. If Pelle somehow makes it to us, he'd be our starting 5 man. JJ is solid in the post, but not big and long enough at the 5. Its definitely going to be interesting to say the least though. We could run many different rotations/looks. Our 2nd team could honestly give our first team a run for the money. Pretty amazing to say the least. We'll be an extremely dangerous team. Just my take I hear you definitely. Just by hearing what I am hearing about O'Brien I think it would be tough to keep him out of the starting lineup. That and X is for sure a starter. So it Taps. So too is probably Shepard. And I can't imagine our best player this year (Jamaal) wouldnt start. So basically I am just thinking less about who starts where and just that Fish would probably want all of these guys in the starting lineup based on merit or talent. |
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Post by azteccc on Feb 22, 2012 1:09:05 GMT -8
Funny you should mention minutes, because I got bored in class today so I made this. I would say these would be their average minutes, so thats why I didn't just go with the 200 minutes or whatever. If everyone averages the low end of your predictions, that's still an average of 225 per game. We only get 200. Minutes will be more scarce than even your chart shows - you would have to start with the minimum listed for every player, and then find 25 to take off. And it's Shrigley |
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Post by kingmiles on Feb 22, 2012 7:54:24 GMT -8
Remember last year 10-11 season Jamaal didn't get on the court for alot of the games till the end of the season. I could see that happening to one of these kids next year. Stephens red shirting will not happen why would he red shirt the year he might be better then the incoming freshman. I wounder if any freshman will red shirt.
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Post by twobits on Feb 22, 2012 9:09:22 GMT -8
They need to try and get into a bunch OT games next year so all our guys can get enough minutes.
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Post by pokinsky on Feb 22, 2012 10:09:28 GMT -8
PF/C: Stephens (20) Spencer (10)
F/Wing: O'Brien (25) Shepard (20)
F/Wing: Jamaal (28) Polee (20)
Guard: Tapley (28) Rahon (25)
Guard: Thames (28)
Shrigley and LBF to redshirt and AW rarely plays.
(A redshirt next year makes perfect sense for LBF, rather than transfer, because he'll likely have a chance to start as a senior with Thames, and probably Shepard gone ... and next year Thames, Tapley, Shepard and even O'Brien could play PG)
When James Johnson becomes eligible in December the PF/C minutes will be Johnson (20), Stephens (10) Spencer (0).
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Post by yeaztecman on Feb 22, 2012 11:30:47 GMT -8
Remember last year 10-11 season Jamaal didn't get on the court for alot of the games till the end of the season. I could see that happening to one of these kids next year. Stephens red shirting will not happen why would he red shirt the year he might be better then the incoming freshman. I wounder if any freshman will red shirt. The problem is, these kids are much better "basketball players" than Jamaal was as a Freshman. Jamaal was a great athlete that has turned into a good basketball player. These recruits are highly sought after and am sure that they were promised some level of playing time right away. It might be the best thing for Shrigley to redshirt, but doubt that is what he and his family wants. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 12:01:01 GMT -8
Next season will be the first time ever that 10-11 guys have the talent to demand playing time. As great as our top 7 were last year, rest of the team was really not that good (a beat up Shelton, Mehdi, Alec, and freshmen LB and Jamaal). Last season's starting 5 were as strong as just about any team in the country from top to bottom. I would give them the edge as to what we are anticipating for next year. But.... depth and overall talent is without question stronger for the upcoming season and it really is not close. PG: Thames and LB (as juniors) - not as great as a senior season DJ Gay, but still very good and probably better overall than the combo of DJ and a freshman LB. SG: Tapley as a senior, much better than Tapley as a sophomore. And he was great as a soph. Experienced players Tapley, Rahon, Jamaal, and highly touted Shrigley = much better and obviously depper than we were last year at the off guard. SF/wing: Jamaal, Shepard, Polee, O'Brien, Rahon, Shrigley... Kawhi was an animal, but we are loaded here next year. PF/C: O'Brien, Stephens, Spencer, Johnson, Williams. Not as talented as the combo of Billy, Malcolm, BC and Shelton, but at just a notch below, easily the second best group of bigs we have had on The Mesa. We will be explosive offensively next year and we should be a very talented, athletic group defensively. I think the only question will be if we are able to rebound as well as we did last year, particularly on the offensive glass. Kahwi and Malcolm were in a class of their own there. Remember last year 10-11 season Jamaal didn't get on the court for alot of the games till the end of the season. I could see that happening to one of these kids next year. Stephens red shirting will not happen why would he red shirt the year he might be better then the incoming freshman. I wounder if any freshman will red shirt. The problem is, these kids are much better "basketball players" than Jamaal was as a Freshman. Jamaal was a great athlete that has turned into a good basketball player. These recruits are highly sought after and am sure that they were promised some level of playing time right away. It might be the best thing for Shrigley to redshirt, but doubt that is what he and his family wants. |
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Post by aztectruth on Feb 22, 2012 13:03:36 GMT -8
Next season will be the first time ever that 10-11 guys have the talent to demand playing time. As great as our top 7 were last year, rest of the team was really not that good (a beat up Shelton, Mehdi, Alec, and freshmen LB and Jamaal). Last season's starting 5 were as strong as just about any team in the country from top to bottom. I would give them the edge as to what we are anticipating for next year. But.... depth and overall talent is without question stronger for the upcoming season and it really is not close. PG: Thames and LB (as juniors) - not as great as a senior season DJ Gay, but still very good and probably better overall than the combo of DJ and a freshman LB. SG: Tapley as a senior, much better than Tapley as a sophomore. And he was great as a soph. Experienced players Tapley, Rahon, Jamaal, and highly touted Shrigley = much better and obviously depper than we were last year at the off guard. SF/wing: Jamaal, Shepard, Polee, O'Brien, Rahon, Shrigley... Kawhi was an animal, but we are loaded here next year. PF/C: O'Brien, Stephens, Spencer, Johnson, Williams. Not as talented as the combo of Billy, Malcolm, BC and Shelton, but at just a notch below, easily the second best group of bigs we have had on The Mesa. We will be explosive offensively next year and we should be a very talented, athletic group defensively. I think the only question will be if we are able to rebound as well as we did last year, particularly on the offensive glass. Kahwi and Malcolm were in a class of their own there. The problem is, these kids are much better "basketball players" than Jamaal was as a Freshman. Jamaal was a great athlete that has turned into a good basketball player. These recruits are highly sought after and am sure that they were promised some level of playing time right away. It might be the best thing for Shrigley to redshirt, but doubt that is what he and his family wants. I think we will be a terrific rebounding team next year. Kawhi's rebounding production is unmatched, but Jamaal being able to play his more natural position at the 3 or the 2 means he will be able to become the weak-side and off-ball rebounder again, and I could see him averaging around 8-10 per game again next year. As for everyone else, I suppose it is kind of a wait and see. I doubt there will be anyone as talented on the glass as Malcolm, but I think between O'Brien, Shepard, Spencer, Johnson and Stephens, we can be very productive on the defensive end in not giving up as many second chance opportunities as we have this year. Just in terms of size alone, we will be much better on the glass. O'Brien plays bigger than his size, Shepard I hear is very active on the glass, Stephens is kind of growing into a poor man's Billy White type player, Spencer makes his living in the paint, and Johnson is probably going to be a taller version of Amoroso. I think we will be just fine. |
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Post by AztecTom on Feb 22, 2012 13:30:56 GMT -8
PF/C: Stephens (20) Spencer (10) F/Wing: O'Brien (25) Shepard (20) F/Wing: Jamaal (28) Polee (20) Guard: Tapley (28) Rahon (25) Guard: Thames (28) Shrigley and LBF to redshirt and AW rarely plays. (A redshirt next year makes perfect sense for LBF, rather than transfer, because he'll likely have a chance to start as a senior with Thames, and probably Shepard gone ... and next year Thames, Tapley, Shepard and even O'Brien could play PG) When James Johnson becomes eligible in December the PF/C minutes will be Johnson (20), Stephens (10) Spencer (0). I don't see Rahon getting 25 minutes a games next year. I can see him maybe getting 17-18 minutes max with all the talent we have. |
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Post by myownwords on Feb 22, 2012 14:21:15 GMT -8
PF/C: Stephens (20) Spencer (10) F/Wing: O'Brien (25) Shepard (20) F/Wing: Jamaal (28) Polee (20) Guard: Tapley (28) Rahon (25) Guard: Thames (28) Shrigley and LBF to redshirt and AW rarely plays. (A redshirt next year makes perfect sense for LBF, rather than transfer, because he'll likely have a chance to start as a senior with Thames, and probably Shepard gone ... and next year Thames, Tapley, Shepard and even O'Brien could play PG) When James Johnson becomes eligible in December the PF/C minutes will be Johnson (20), Stephens (10) Spencer (0). I don't see Rahon getting 25 minutes a games next year. I can see him maybe getting 17-18 minutes max with all the talent we have. But don't you think that if he doesn't improve from where he is now that he may not even see 10 minutes? |
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Post by pokinsky on Feb 22, 2012 15:32:27 GMT -8
I don't see Rahon getting 25 minutes a games next year. I can see him maybe getting 17-18 minutes max with all the talent we have. But don't you think that if he doesn't improve from where he is now that he may not even see 10 minutes? I'm hoping that the broken bone (pain) in his foot is the main cause of his inaccuracy from the floor? Because regardless of the talent, size and athleticism coming in ... none of them are outside shooters (except maybe Shrigley)? |
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Post by sdsustoner on Feb 23, 2012 14:42:08 GMT -8
I see a lot of ESPN highlights next year because:
1. Our talent
2. We're back on the Disney networks!
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Post by sdtri007 on Feb 23, 2012 15:19:05 GMT -8
I see a lot of ESPN highlights next year because: 1. Our talent 2. We're back on the Disney networks! U realize we're still in the Mtn West next school year right? |
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