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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2010 13:41:39 GMT -8
I still like this kid: jcfootball.scout.com/a.z?s=87&p=8&c=1&nid=4070427. . . and I wish to heck Derrick Dooley would pull his head out and release him from his scholarship so Hoke and company could recruit him.* (Dooley also won't release Bryce Brown and since Brown was the most coveted tailback in the country a year and a half ago, there's no doubt that everybody in the world is going to use it against Tennessee. Couldn't happen to a more deserving fan base, of course.) * Just curious if anybody knows whether the fact Dooley won't release him means he won't burn a year or eligibility and would therefore still have three playing years remaining rather than just two. Nevermind: The point is moot since Lamaison has apparently bounced back to Mt. SAC for a second season there: mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=87&f=2909&t=6179775 |
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Post by aztech on Aug 12, 2010 15:06:07 GMT -8
Could have been worse, like 1 one 4 years. , I think Mougey could have been a pretty good one if he didn't have KO ahead of him (he lit it up when he came in before getting hurt). But, likewise, Craft another QB, did a horrid job either bringing in or developing back-up QBs, 7 years of basically only having a first string qb is a problem. No, I was referring to his successor. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 13, 2010 22:22:33 GMT -8
I'm guessing you're talking Craft, I think Mougey could have been a pretty good one if he didn't have KO ahead of him (he lit it up when he came in before getting hurt). But, likewise, Craft another QB, did a horrid job either bringing in or developing back-up QBs, 7 years of basically only having a first string qb is a problem. No, I was referring to his successor. Considering that Chuck Long only had two full years to recruit and recruited Ryan Lindley in one of those years.......Why is this such a shock? Especially since he was behind the 8 ball with OLineman and Dlineman and had to spend most of the two full years he recruited on those two positions. |
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Post by aztech on Aug 13, 2010 23:28:08 GMT -8
No, I was referring to his successor. Considering that Chuck Long only had two full years to recruit and recruited Ryan Lindley in one of those years.......Why is this such a shock? Especially since he was behind the 8 ball with OLineman and Dlineman and had to spend most of the two full years he recruited on those two positions. Don't really matter now does it? Thank god he's gone. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 14, 2010 6:51:34 GMT -8
Considering that Chuck Long only had two full years to recruit and recruited Ryan Lindley in one of those years.......Why is this such a shock? Especially since he was behind the 8 ball with OLineman and Dlineman and had to spend most of the two full years he recruited on those two positions. Don't really matter now does it? Thank god he's gone. No, it doesn't matter now......I just thought I would correct your false statement above. And just for the record, Chuck Long recruited Colton Morrison. So he has two QB's on this roster, one a Junior and one a freshman. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 14, 2010 7:37:47 GMT -8
These are 3 redshirt Frosh QBs....not true freshmen. They have been with this staff as long as Ryan has. Let's not assume they can't contribute.........true Frosh QBs have been helping other teams around the country last year.......i.e. Wyoming. He led the Cowchips all year, was the primary guy in defeating us and then led them to a bowl victory. We need to start thinking that true Frosh and RSFrosh don't necessarily mean an empty uniform. Indeed, if the Freshman comes from a good high school program that teaches the QB to read defenses and modify the passing game accordingly (Coryell's greatest contribution to the game after he invented the I formation.). They can come into a program like Wyoming runs and quickly learn. It is not that hard. Still, some kids just can not make the reads. |
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Post by aztech on Aug 14, 2010 9:34:39 GMT -8
Doesn't really matter now does it? Thank god he's gone. No, it doesn't matter now......I just thought I would correct your false statement above. And just for the record, Chuck Long recruited Colton Morrison. So he has two QB's on this roster, one a Junior and one a freshman. Doesn't really matter now does it? Thank god he's gone. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Aug 14, 2010 9:37:31 GMT -8
Could have been worse, like 1 one 4 years. I'm guessing you're talking Craft, I think Mougey could have been a pretty good one if he didn't have KO ahead of him (he lit it up when he came in before getting hurt). But, likewise, Craft another QB, did a horrid job either bringing in or developing back-up QBs, 7 years of basically only having a first string qb is a problem. That comment makes me smile. Tom Craft did an excellent job of developing QB's. He had $#!+ in the pipeline when he took over, and brought in some excellent talent. That talent proved how lethal it could be when the Offensive line which was essentially Freshmen and JC transfers in 2004 proved that it could block against BYU in the 2005 game. They held their own against Utah in that season, too. Not only was OC performing in magnificent fashion, but there was a QB in the pipeline after Moogey, and that was Kevin Craft. We were loaded when Tom was fired. Remember, Tom had to bring Five JC linemen in because Teddy left him almost no viable linemen in the program. There was no problem with the three deep talent level at QB in 2005. |
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Post by monty on Aug 14, 2010 9:57:44 GMT -8
I'm guessing you're talking Craft, I think Mougey could have been a pretty good one if he didn't have KO ahead of him (he lit it up when he came in before getting hurt). But, likewise, Craft another QB, did a horrid job either bringing in or developing back-up QBs, 7 years of basically only having a first string qb is a problem. That comment makes me smile. Tom Craft did an excellent job of developing QB's. He had $#!+ in the pipeline when he took over, and brought in some excellent talent. That talent proved how lethal it could be when the Offensive line which was essentially Freshmen and JC transfers in 2004 proved that it could block against BYU in the 2005 game. They held their own against Utah in that season, too. Not only was OC performing in magnificent fashion, but there was a QB in the pipeline after Moogey, and that was Kevin Craft. We were loaded when Tom was fired. Remember, Tom had to bring Five JC linemen in because Teddy left him almost no viable linemen in the program. There was no problem with the three deep talent level at QB in 2005. Kevin Craft had one of the worst seasons in the history of football with UCLA. I was on the sideline at Sun Devil Stadium when the fans booed ASU when they got a first down, and cheered when ASU punted because of the pic-6s that Craft was throwing - I have never seen a crowd have so much fun at a game and seen an entire sideline laughing at an opponent as they did at Craft and his horrid play. He was not any good. |
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Post by aztecphotos on Aug 14, 2010 10:03:26 GMT -8
Ezell is #34
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 14, 2010 10:05:43 GMT -8
No, it doesn't matter now......I just thought I would correct your false statement above. And just for the record, Chuck Long recruited Colton Morrison. So he has two QB's on this roster, one a Junior and one a freshman. Doesn't really matter now does it? Thank god he's gone. Didn't you already say that above?  |
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Post by aztech on Aug 14, 2010 10:09:07 GMT -8
Doesn't really matter now does it? Thank god he's gone. Didn't you already say that above? Yes, please don't make me repeat it . |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 14, 2010 10:20:30 GMT -8
Didn't you already say that above? Yes, please don't make me repeat it . What, that most of the starters this year will be Chuck Long recruits and that he has two of his QB recruits in the top 4 on this team? And that Brady Hoke (who I like a lot) will go to the first bowl game for the Aztecs in years with Chuck Longs players? Do what you want Aztech. It won't stop me, only encourage me. |
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Post by McQuervo on Aug 14, 2010 10:20:43 GMT -8
Didn't you already say that above? Yes, please don't make me repeat it . I wish there was a buzzer every time that morons initials or name comes up...   Just be happy he's off in the midwest, polluting another poor program with his "Knowledge and approach." |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 14, 2010 10:23:29 GMT -8
Yes, please don't make me repeat it . I wish there was a buzzer every time that morons initials or name comes up... Just be happy he's off in the midwest, polluting another poor program with his "Knowledge and approach." Then buy your buzzer...Your "Long Hater" buddies are the ones that can't stop talking about it. I have a feeling that Chuck Long will be a topic on this board for a LOOOOONNNNNG time. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2010 12:08:44 GMT -8
Kevin Craft had one of the worst seasons in the history of football with UCLA. I was on the sideline at Sun Devil Stadium when the fans booed ASU when they got a first down, and cheered when ASU punted because of the pic-6s that Craft was throwing - I have never seen a crowd have so much fun at a game and seen an entire sideline laughing at an opponent as they did at Craft and his horrid play. He was not any good. If I'm not mistaken, he tied the NCAA record that year for most pick sixes thrown in a season. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2010 12:13:43 GMT -8
The Sporting News is predicting that this year's Holiday Bowl will feature Washington against Kansas.
Time to get your tickets while there are still good seats available, Steve.
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Post by monty on Aug 14, 2010 12:28:54 GMT -8
Kevin Craft had one of the worst seasons in the history of football with UCLA. I was on the sideline at Sun Devil Stadium when the fans booed ASU when they got a first down, and cheered when ASU punted because of the pic-6s that Craft was throwing - I have never seen a crowd have so much fun at a game and seen an entire sideline laughing at an opponent as they did at Craft and his horrid play. He was not any good. If I'm not mistaken, he tied the NCAA record that year for most pick sixes thrown in a season. I think he threw 6 interceptions that game, 3 or 4 returned for a touchdown, 3 interceptions in a row, one brought back inside the 10. Seriously, I have never had more fun at a game, or seen a situation where the coaches and players are laughing and the crowd is booing the offense for getting a first down. |
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Post by steveaztec on Aug 14, 2010 14:34:27 GMT -8
The Sporting News is predicting that this year's Holiday Bowl will feature Washington against Kansas. Time to get your tickets while there are still good seats available, Steve. Not interested if the Aztecs are not playing. |
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