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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 13:47:49 GMT -8
Despite having the same nickname, the USU Aggies should not be confused with the NMSU Aggies. Sure, the USU game is at Qualcomm while NMSU is on the road. However, the WAC writers have picked USU for 4th in the WAC whereas NMSU is picked for 8th: www.collegefootballpoll.com/season_preview_2010_wac_coaches_poll.htmlLooking at the comparison rosters, particularly on QB, I agree with them. Diondre Borel stats from a year ago: 2,885 yards passing, 742 yards rushing. TD to INT ratio of 17:4. He could give our D fits. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 13:51:08 GMT -8
This should be an easy win at home for the Aztecs. No reason for it not to be.
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Post by Old School on Jul 29, 2010 14:10:30 GMT -8
Another Cal Poly?
I hope not.
Oldie Out
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 14:26:54 GMT -8
as always, getting pressure on him (the QB) will be a key to the game. Diondre Borel stats from a year ago: 2,885 yards passing, 742 yards rushing. TD to INT ratio of 17:4. He could give our D fits. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 15:59:47 GMT -8
Another Cal Poly? I hope not. With due respect, I think that's a bad comparison. Cal Poly didn't beat us (twice) because of their QB, who was nothing more than efficient both times we played them. Borel, OTOH, is a playmaker who not only makes things happen with his feet, but he can hit open receivers when the defense breaks down as a result of his scrambling. Examples include the following passing yardage totals in ROAD games last year: 334 at Texas A&M, 344 at Hawaii and 376 at Idaho. Those are all tough places to play. Although he didn't do much against BYU, Utah and Boise State, last I looked, they were just a tad better than us last year. Because USU's defense has given up almost exactly 34 ppg each of the last three years, I'm expecting a really exciting wide-open offensive game like we used to play in the WAC back in the nineties. |
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Post by k5james on Jul 29, 2010 16:08:22 GMT -8
I'll continue to say it, if Turbin doesn't play, we win handily. If you have a legit threat like him at tailback it makes throwing the ball and the read option that much easier.
Turbin is the key to their offense.
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Post by rickdoerr on Jul 29, 2010 16:11:59 GMT -8
This is the game that scares me especially if we have a knock down, drag out fight the week before. It could be one of those last team to score wins games.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 29, 2010 16:14:16 GMT -8
Another Cal Poly? I hope not. With due respect, I think that's a bad comparison. Cal Poly didn't beat us (twice) because of their QB, who was nothing more than efficient both times we played them. Borel, OTOH, is a playmaker who not only makes things happen with his feet, but he can hit open receivers when the defense breaks down as a result of his scrambling. Examples include the following passing yardage totals in ROAD games last year: 334 at Texas A&M, 344 at Hawaii and 376 at Idaho. Those are all tough places to play. Although he didn't do much against BYU, Utah and Boise State, last I looked, they were just a tad better than us last year. Because USU's defense has given up almost exactly 34 ppg each of the last three years, I'm expecting a really exciting wide-open offensive game like we used to play in the WAC back in the nineties. Don't think so because I don't believe Rocky will allow it to be so. They had a pretty decent offense last year, but they still gave up almost 60 points more than they scored over the course of the season and got beat by a couple of really lousy teams. And I think we should keep in mind that SDSU has often had great offensive passing numbers during really crappy seasons. =Bob |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 16:42:05 GMT -8
Bob, Rocky can only be as effective as the personnel at his disposal allows him to be. Check the kind of defensive kids we signed to LOIs this year and the kind he's recruiting for 2011 and you'll see he emphasizes speed over size whereas his predecessor didn't necessarily do that. Point is, the players should be much better with a year of the 3-3-5 under their belts but half of them will still be Chuck Long recruits.
James, you make a good point about Borel being more effective with Turbin at tailback and last I read several weeks ago, he isn't expected back until they start their conference season. However, they still have a pretty good back in JC transfer Michael Smith. Smith may be tiny at a listed 5-8 but that early in the season he shouldn't be banged up much yet and in 2009, he carried 46 times for 304. That's an average of 6.3 ypc. He also averaged an impressive - for a running back - 11.6 yards per catch on 19 receptions with two TD catches.
So the only way I'll agree we will win comfortably is if Borel goes down or is severely hobbled before we play them. I certainly wouldn't hope for that from a kid I have a lot of respect for. However, since they open at Oklahoma, the possibility looms larger than it otherwise might.
(God am I jonsing to watch some football.)
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 29, 2010 16:44:27 GMT -8
Another Cal Poly? I hope not. Oldie Out No, Utah State is not as tough as Cal Poly was. |
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Post by Fred Noonan on Jul 29, 2010 17:51:49 GMT -8
Please. You act like cal poly was some kind of juggernaut. They lost games during the same period to san jose state,south dakota state, north dakota state,and weber state. Their biggest wins over the past few years were over some of the worst sdsu teams in history. And they barely won due to inept coaching on the sdsu side. +1 The Fred Noonan School of Navigation.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 20:39:30 GMT -8
The Utah St. game is just the kind of game teams of the past decade would lose to. Let's hope things are different now. I too am getting hyped for football. Can't wait!!!! I love that the one thing Hoke has been stressing is the most important thing I've felt we've needed for so long... toughness. Mean-ness. Demolish teams we should beat.. hang and not give up against teams that are equal.. smash teams that are better than us in the face and wait for an opportunity.. keep it close. Sorry for the rant.
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Post by jdaztec on Jul 29, 2010 20:47:13 GMT -8
Wayno now you got me fired up too !!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 21:14:34 GMT -8
THANKS MAN... we just need a few things to click. Just marginally improve our run game it opens up more passing.. get better protection.. our passing gets even better.. defense gets a little faster, more confident in their roles there's another game we win. We're close. Will it be this year or next I don't know. But we're close to being a decent team.
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Post by Pasadenaztec on Jul 30, 2010 5:13:12 GMT -8
This should be an easy win at home for the Aztecs. No reason for it not to be. "Easy win" huh?! Oh, you mean like the Cal Poly SLO games were supposed to be? Nothing's ever easy for Aztecs football. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 8:18:28 GMT -8
Open up a 6-pack of whoop-ass, rip their heads off and $#!+ down their throats! The Utah St. game is just the kind of game teams of the past decade would lose to. Let's hope things are different now. I too am getting hyped for football. Can't wait!!!! I love that the one thing Hoke has been stressing is the most important thing I've felt we've needed for so long... toughness. Mean-ness. Demolish teams we should beat.. hang and not give up against teams that are equal.. smash teams that are better than us in the face and wait for an opportunity.. keep it close. Sorry for the rant. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2010 10:25:55 GMT -8
The Utah St. game is just the kind of game teams of the past decade would lose to. Let's hope things are different now. I too am getting hyped for football. Can't wait!!!! Looking back, opponents like Utah St. epitomize how far the program has fallen. Prior to 2005, we lost to such pick 'em OOC schools sporadically. However, since then, there's been one such loss annually. In reverse chronological order: Idaho (they ended up bowling but it was a pick 'em going in); SJSU; WSU (they killed us but were just 5-7 and didn't beat a winning team all year); UTEP; and in 2005, Hawaii (identical to WSU in being 5-7 and not beating a winning team). None were terrible but except for Idaho, all had losing records and, therefore, were either small underdogs to us or us to them and were therefore all very winnable. Somebody started another thread on schools we should schedule OOC. Well, if we continue to lose games like those, it really doesn't matter, does it? |
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Post by theMesa on Jul 30, 2010 11:24:02 GMT -8
+1
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 12:13:53 GMT -8
Please. You act like cal poly was some kind of juggernaut. They lost games during the same period to san jose state,south dakota state, north dakota state,and weber state. Their biggest wins over the past few years were over some of the worst sdsu teams in history. And they barely won due to inept coaching on the sdsu side. No I didn't act like Cal Poly was some kind of juggernaut. I said the two Cal Poly teams we lost to in the Chuck Long era were better than both the New Mexico State team and the Utah State team we will play this year. ***And the Cal Poly teams we lost to were better than the Idaho team that beat us last year. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 30, 2010 12:14:30 GMT -8
Please. You act like cal poly was some kind of juggernaut. They lost games during the same period to san jose state,south dakota state, north dakota state,and weber state. Their biggest wins over the past few years were over some of the worst sdsu teams in history. And they barely won due to inept coaching on the sdsu side. +1 The Fred Noonan School of Navigation. -2  |
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