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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 13:39:35 GMT -8
I agree with Pokinsky, LTB but I see your point, completely. If the consensus is that he will be a top 15 pick, then by all means he should go. If he is projected as a late first round pick, I see him coming back for his junior season.
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Post by SD Johnny on Jul 28, 2010 13:40:58 GMT -8
I want Kawhi to leave after this year if he's a first round pick. We would take a hit in the short term because your not going to replace a guy like that but long term it would take recruiting up another notch and greatly improve our program.
Recruits don't associate SDSU as a stepping stone to the NBA currently, but when they do you will see recruiting go through the roof.
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Post by DukeAztec on Jul 28, 2010 13:41:49 GMT -8
We will lose for sure the following seniors: Carlwell, Cheriet, Gay, Thomas, and White. That's a lineup right there that many a Div-I BB school would envy. If Leonard goes, the loss becomes much greater. And who returns? The following; Jamaal Franklin G LB Franklin G Rahon G Tapley G Thames G Williams F (For the moment, I am not counting on Shelton's return.) just look at it..... all guards and 1 forward....we need bigs!!!! |
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Post by hoobs on Jul 28, 2010 13:54:21 GMT -8
I agree with Pokinsky, LTB but I see your point, completely. If the consensus is that he will be a top 15 pick, then by all means he should go. If he is projected as a late first round pick, I see him coming back for his junior season. Bingo. |
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Post by monty on Jul 28, 2010 14:15:15 GMT -8
The NBA has some labor issues on the horizon as well, that may very well factor in to players decisions to come out early next year
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Post by Cwag on Jul 28, 2010 14:18:40 GMT -8
I agree with Pokinsky, LTB but I see your point, completely. If the consensus is that he will be a top 15 pick, then by all means he should go. If he is projected as a late first round pick, I see him coming back for his junior season. Being a late 1st round pick means he would be going to a winning NBA team.Why would he want to pass that up? |
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Post by brokencurse on Jul 28, 2010 14:25:14 GMT -8
I think since he didn't use one of his draft workouts up yet is a good sign that he may plan to stay past his soph year.
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Post by monty on Jul 28, 2010 14:28:49 GMT -8
I agree with Pokinsky, LTB but I see your point, completely. If the consensus is that he will be a top 15 pick, then by all means he should go. If he is projected as a late first round pick, I see him coming back for his junior season. Being a late 1st round pick means he would be going to a winning NBA team.Why would he want to pass that up? Because late 1st rounders very easily become 2nd rounders or not drafted and no longer are guaranteed money, and only a handful of 2nd rounders make a team. If you are only projected late 1st round then you have to hope the draft plays out right, that a couple of teams like you and want you there, and that other players they prefer don't fall to you. Teams at the end of the 1st round are, as you point out, usually pretty good, they are drafting for specific needs and positions they can't address through free agency with seasoned veterans. If you have eligibility and you're not failing out or your family is in a serious bind AND you are likely to continue to improve you are doing yourself a favor by coming back and assuring you'll go in the first round. If Leonard improves as a soph and junior there is no reason to believe he's not a lottery or nearby pick, if he leaves this year he could totally end up like dude from New Mexico that is projected late 1st round, doesn't go there, potentially gets hurt without a guaranteed contract or has to fight his way to be one of the couple players that make a roster out of summer league. |
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Post by aztectone on Jul 28, 2010 15:23:28 GMT -8
I think since he didn't use one of his draft workouts up yet is a good sign that he may plan to stay past his soph year. Agreed unless he takes us deep into the dance and put us on his back like Gordon Heward did for Butler I fully expect him back his jr year. His then JR year will be the Kawhi show where I expect to see him play point forward and showcase his skills putting up 16,12 and 4. |
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 28, 2010 16:26:04 GMT -8
I think since he didn't use one of his draft workouts up yet is a good sign that he may plan to stay past his soph year. Agreed unless he takes us deep into the dance and put us on his back like Gordon Heward did for Butler I fully expect him back his jr year. His then JR year will be the Kawhi show where I expect to see him play point forward and showcase his skills putting up 16,12 and 4. The early mocks from last year completely changed over the course of the year and many of the projected 1st round picks went in the 2nd round or even undrafted. Gordon Hayward was a 6'9 SF who might play some SG in the NBA and shot 45% from 3 as a freshman and 30% as a soph. If his shooting percentages were not as high he never would have gone in lottery, even if his team won the championship. Devin Ebanks (West Virginia) was also a 6'9 SF who could do it all (avg 12 and 8 in the big east) and also carried his team to the final 4, but has a horribly inconsistent shot ... (12% from 3). Because of this he fell from projected lottery pick ... to 2nd round. If Leonard's 3 FG% is lower than 25% ... he should definitely come back or risk falling to the unknown of the 2nd round. |
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Post by monty on Jul 28, 2010 17:17:16 GMT -8
Agreed unless he takes us deep into the dance and put us on his back like Gordon Heward did for Butler I fully expect him back his jr year. His then JR year will be the Kawhi show where I expect to see him play point forward and showcase his skills putting up 16,12 and 4. The early mocks from last year completely changed over the course of the year and many of the projected 1st round picks went in the 2nd round or even undrafted. Gordon Hayward was a 6'9 SF who might play some SG in the NBA and shot 45% from 3 as a freshman and 30% as a soph. If his shooting percentages were not as high he never would have gone in lottery, even if his team won the championship. Devin Ebanks (West Virginia) was also a 6'9 SF who could do it all (avg 12 and 8 in the big east) and also carried his team to the final 4, but has a horribly inconsistent shot ... (12% from 3). Because of this he fell from projected lottery pick ... to 2nd round. If Leonard's 3 FG% is lower than 25% ... he should definitely come back or risk falling to the unknown of the 2nd round. True, and right now his best traits are his hustling and he is a rebound savant. THose are fantastic intangible type traits for a stud to have and in 2 years he will be that, nah a beast: beasts get drafted in the top 15 or so and have careers, studs get a cup of coffee and a chance to make it. I would be highly surprised if he doesn't enter the draft to test the waters, pull out and come back and win player of the year, 1st or 2nd team all america, finish rounding out his game and go into the lottery after his Jr. year. Leonard just seems to have his head on those broad shoulders. |
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Post by aztecgold on Jul 28, 2010 18:18:11 GMT -8
He's gone!
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Post by miners22 on Jul 29, 2010 7:08:39 GMT -8
Great for Leonard and San Diego State if he is projected a 1st Round Lottery pick for 2011 NBA Draft! A couple of factors to consider, though. First of all, if there is an NBA Lockout next season, this could delay Leonard's entry. Secondly, Leonard's
and his team's performance next season will determine high high or low he will go in the Draft. Make no mistake, Leonard will get drafted, period!
As far as leaving his SDSU teammates behind, they will be fine. All
SDSU Coaching Staff needs to do is bring in a couple of bigs. It is
easier to form a front-court that he can rebound the ball, block-
shots and defend, that is to form your back-court! SDSU may have the best "backcourt" in the Country after 2011! Tapley, Rahon and Thames D1 experience alone makes SDSU a formidable opponent regardless of their front-court.
As you know, I am a proponent for the bigs because team that controls the paint/boards wins most of the games. However, I like
SDSU's future back-court. In fact, I believe SDSU's back-court is the key to SDSU success next season and beyond! I know this thread is about Leonard's NBA prospects, but let's not forget about Thomas and White. Again, depending upon their
individual and team performances, Thomas and White are legitimate pro prospects, in my opinion!
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